In post 1098, Hectic wrote:Voyeur is a lot more useful since you can get the role used. Watcher just gets the name.
Don't you think scum!Wake could just as easily be trying to watch town to catch some other town PRs? Let's say we lynch me and I flip town, with how much confidence are you willing to say that Wake is a TOWN watcher? Like, percentage-wise.
Normally you dont pay me any attention, yet you seem really concerned about me talking about this theory even though you said you dont think I'm trying to lynch you
Yeah, I don't think profii believes what he's saying here. In 1020, he mentions it would "clear" Waka but then later when confronted with why he'd discount scum!Waka watching a townie to potentially find other town PRs, he has no answer. I think he stated soemthing that most would think "only town would propose/think of soemthing bizarre like that" - but that doesn't exactly hold up when you can't explain your thought process behind it.
In post 1098, Hectic wrote:Voyeur is a lot more useful since you can get the role used. Watcher just gets the name.
Don't you think scum!Wake could just as easily be trying to watch town to catch some other town PRs? Let's say we lynch me and I flip town, with how much confidence are you willing to say that Wake is a TOWN watcher? Like, percentage-wise.
In post 1098, Hectic wrote:Voyeur is a lot more useful since you can get the role used. Watcher just gets the name.
Don't you think scum!Wake could just as easily be trying to watch town to catch some other town PRs? Let's say we lynch me and I flip town, with how much confidence are you willing to say that Wake is a TOWN watcher? Like, percentage-wise.
Normally you dont pay me any attention, yet you seem really concerned about me talking about this theory even though you said you dont think I'm trying to lynch you
Honestly, I'm flattered
In post 1101, Hectic wrote:You didn't answer the question, profii. I'm concerned about whether you actually believe what you believe.
In post 1083, profii wrote:It's a weird one though. I don't believe your claim... I think you're a scum neighborizor
Also, explain this.
Dave just claimed doc and was confirmed to have been visiting me by Waka. If he's a scum neighbouriser, then I would be in a hood with him and could just say "hang on a sec, Dave, why you claiming doc, m8?"
How did you think he could've been a scum neighbouriser crumbing that switched his claim to doc?
I think profii is just saying things he thinks will sound natural/towny, but if you take a proper look beneath the surface of these things, you find there's a hollow abyss underneath, completely devoid of light or life.
Idk about how the actions resolve. Would a neighborizor happen before the kill? I.e. if the kill happens first, the enabler is dead and that's you not in the hood.
If no, then I'm just wrong, it's not as big a deal as you seem to be making it
In terms of the wake thing, I made my point and you made yours. I think if you flip town, wake is probably town. I know it's not a guarantee but I am not a machine that can do what they do on televised poker and put the little percentage next to each hand to say the odds of everything happening that's going on
So we are trying to say that Wake is a full watcher and dave is some kind of doctor.
Let's assume that's right and Dave protects Wake, whilst Wake watches Dave
We make the assumption either 2 things happen:
scum pick off townies until it's Dave and Wake vs ? and we have to try and get 1 scum lynch before Lylo to basically use our Innos to walk to victory
or scum try and gambit that Dave isn't a full doctor and pick off Wake ~at some point~
this seems borderline game breaking so I don't believe it. Combined with the paranoia of hectic dismissing my theories, it's making me think something here stinks.
So let's consider Dave trying to lure out the 'real' doctor... Dave would never die because he is scum, we would then get suspicious and Dave would say 'ah but of course scum wont kill me, Wake is watching me' and Wake won't die because scum are using Wake's presence to use it as an excuse for Dave.
Some people say WIFOM is an overused term, I feel like it applies here to the way my brain is processing this scenario.
Scum have one shot ability so we can bet they have a another visiting role.
But does scum down one. Use another ability n1. I dont realy think so.
I never get why people keep picking at things. Didnt i say others say setup spec will only help the scum at this point. ambiguity as to what daves and tweets roles actualy are would be good for us. At would create a situation where scum could nk less optimally
Scum had a 1-shot Jailkeeper which might've been for this scenario, but they could also have a roleblocker of some sort.
Waka and Dave shouldn't establish who they're targeting in-thread. They should just follow their hearts in the night and try and predict who scum picks.
1109 from profii placates me somewhat. Always rated you, profii.
VOTE: Bobman
(Gamma is still my preferred choice unless he does something)
I doubt scum proffii would go down a rout of speculating on wake beinf scum watcher if wake is town. As i cant see scum not having something left to counter the doc.
As wake slot is most likely self resolving as if they could block or anotehr action along those lines. They would go after the watcher first
normaly its town that pushs back against town players claiming there roles. with scum holding onto their coattails. Rather than being the one to start it all
I object to voting lynching Gamma Day 2. I was the first to vote tictac. Gamma joined me after that. Gamma stayed on the tictac/Chemist wagon all the way to the end. Unless Gamma is Scum and was doing a hard-bus of his teammate, I don't think Gamma is Scum. WHY are people voting him?
I also tuned out around Page 12 so leshrug
Like Morning Tweet is right that I was in a bad place to unvote if I was Chemist’s buddy
In post 1096, Gamma Emerald wrote:
The main issue with your statement is the term “hard-bussing”. I wasn’t active for a lot of D1 so it’s hard to call my actions hard-anything. I don’t think you’re scum but you do seem to be arguing a case with a sizable hole in it
I think profii is town. On #526 he broke the tie on the Chemist/Aloratom wagon and if profii was scum I think he would have voted Aloratom instead of voting Chemist.
In post 1120, Adorable wrote:I think profii is town. On #526 he broke the tie on the Chemist/Aloratom wagon and if profii was scum I think he would have voted Aloratom instead of voting Chemist.
I think this analysis, while vote-wise is probably technically correct, doesn't take enough information into account. Profii joined the tictac-Chem wagon as it got heated up. It wasn't really a tie at that point in the game, even if the votes were similar-- the Alo wagon was more or less stagnated, whereas the tictac-Chem one was gaining a lot of traciton
what do you make of my analysis of the wagons and who i think is likely scum in 939 and 942 ?