Mini Normal 2125: Chiptune Mafia [The End]

[OkaPoka]

And fwiw I am 2-shot bulletproof so I probably should've caught up more but well, it took me about 5 minutes to realize aloratom is confscum and then suddenly I was like ehhhh and promptly forgot about fully catching up

anyways what are the claims from aloratom and paragon?

[OkaPoka]

ok well apparently aloratom claimed vt and so did paragon so that rules that out

[Paragon]

Well, well, well. An Oogle Boogle has fallen into the game.

eyestott has joined the council and the only thing on his mind is electrocuting your slot.

[Paragon]

ok well apparently aloratom claimed vt and so did paragon so that rules that out

Rules what out?

[Aloratom]

Hi Oka! Thanks for joining.

I guess it's come to this.

VOTE: OkaPoka

[OkaPoka]

ok well apparently aloratom claimed vt and so did paragon so that rules that out

Rules what out?

the idea of leaving eyestott alive

[OkaPoka]

paragon/aloratom can you guys give me a rundown on what makes you scumread taly? from my readings of the earlier game, it seemed that consensus was taly was town~ although so was aloratom /shrug

[OkaPoka]

Oh yeah. Don't go voting for Churros, Aloratom. Taly can hammer if he's scum with eyestott. Put in on hold until I'm back to look at this properly.

I can't ever see it being Churros + Aloratom so it's fine if you vote eyestott, Taly.

i need context as to why you said this btw

[OkaPoka]

actually okay i have a question

alo's seemingly a utr for a very long time, so was taly, i guess eyestott was a pr claim but seemed lynchable as evidenced by churros trying to lynch that

why is alo is still alive? why did SS eat a bullet?

[OkaPoka]

wait how did blake, a vigi that went off, get wagoned?

[OkaPoka]

when did eyestott claim neopolitan? how did this guy stay alive until day 4 and seemingly go unrestricted in night actions

[OkaPoka]

contrary to intuiton, doing a quick ctrl f of pops and luca's iso, im going to guess pops got shot by blake and luca got shot by scum

[OkaPoka]

alright playing fast and loose with this catchup

since blake didn't claim by the looks of it, im going to assume that blake was killed because so spooky to scumteam

but since blake you know, was being wagoned earlier and kinda helped mislynch two townies and was townreading aloratom and regardless of how you look at it with me being scum or aloratom being scum, she was 0/2 finding scum especially because she flipped on churros and i know churros and blake and churros can kinda just wreck blake

probably means that blake was rolecopped or smithed by scum so scum knew she was ic

for what its worth

and churros claimed gunsmith? im guessing aloratom is a multitasking rolecop/gunsmith ~at least its very likely that the remaining scum is a gunsmith/rolecop or something

[OkaPoka]

yeah its pretty obvious that blake would never shoot luca here, i don't think you can disagree with that premise

[OkaPoka]

SO im going to ignore pops being nightkilled because that was a blake shot

checking luca's iso it really looks like

I’m barely caught up but this is roughly where I’m at:

Town: Paragon, Fire, Churros

Town-leans: Pops, SS

Null-ish: Taly, Bella, Stott

Scum-leans: Fuzzy, Math, Tom

Just for reference mainly as I still need to read deeper, but I’m pretty certain I only want to lynch in that bottom pile today.

so townbins churros thats 0/1

so if im scum he has me at null thats 0/2

vs if alo is scum thats 1/2

and if he's the nightkill i mean, its probably because he was somewhat close to undermining scum, not literally 0/2

[OkaPoka]

and i guess since S_S got "gunsmithed" cleared by churros it makes sense why he would get nightkilled

he did have a change of heart on alo at the end there fwiw if you care about his reads

anyways im going to guess he didn't claim vt yet

here's going to be my guess of nightactions:

n1:
blake shoots pops
churros shoots luca
alo investigates blake (is vigi/has gun)

n2:
churros shoots blake
alo investigates S_S

n3:
churros shoots S_S

???? also eyestott claims neopolitan d3 and got his investigate off lmao, these kills are so wack, unless alo is actually protected by the invest, maybe he's commuter joat or ascetic?

alo = joat rolecop/gunsmith/commuter
alo = ascetic gunsmith
alo = ascetic rolecop

ok alo probably commuted n3 with the intention of claiming eyestott would be roleblocked

n4 is kill eyestott ig

[OkaPoka]

n3 is strange unless you believe that scum commuted or = ascetic,

from a taly!scum perspective since scum didn't roleblock eyestott, it means that eyestott clearing additional people is better for scum's wincondition than killing a semi ic in SS ~which doesn't make sense because eye is just kinda creating additional ics so lol
i guess eyestott can't guilty churros or taly, but these are known prs, he's still creating ics lol wtf, literally killing SS in a churros/taly comp is utter stupidity since eyestott is going to be checking in the vt pool

now from an alo!scum perspective there is some value in killing ss over eyestott Neapolitan if 1) you have counterplay against him accidentally guiltying you and 2) SS reads might undermine the comfy chair of UTR
i know you need a tinfoil hat but if you believe alo has some passive way to neutralize an eyestott check in the form of ascetic/commuter (i like commuter, it plays against the theme of town's power better than a vanilla ascetic, plus i can put a joat label on him) then it actually makes a whole lot of sense

if alo is either an ascetic investigative or joat with rolecop/gunsmith/commuter it could actually make sense wrt to the night actions, why someone like blake with reads that scumsiding regardless if you think me or alo are scum eating a kill, why churros claimed a 1-shot gunsmith on SS (on a person who is known to gambit with his claims so a full clear is risky), why scum weren't worried about eyestott creating ics/finding guilties because there is counterplay

now also churros is a multitasking goon which is strange and idk why, is it possible that he can inherit multitasking in a backup fashion? who knows but still, i think night actions prove alo/churros over taly/churros

[OkaPoka]

multitasking goons never happened but backup+power role has so im guessing its a backup joat = alo


https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=29549

[OkaPoka]

anyways paragon feel free to ask away on my theories and question me

id like to dance with you

[Paragon]

actually okay i have a question

alo's seemingly a utr for a very long time, so was taly, i guess eyestott was a pr claim but seemed lynchable as evidenced by churros trying to lynch that

why is alo is still alive? why did SS eat a bullet?

Churros claimed novice 1-shot gunsmith and claimed an inno on Something_Smart on day 2.

when did eyestott claim neopolitan? how did this guy stay alive until day 4 and seemingly go unrestricted in night actions

People (including me) thought neapolitan was unreasonable for 2 scum in 12 players.

contrary to intuiton, doing a quick ctrl f of pops and luca's iso, im going to guess pops got shot by blake and luca got shot by scum

Yes.

[Paragon]

I was scumreading eyestott on Day 3 and was very vocal about how I couldn't see eyestott being an ungated neapolitan if there were only 2 scum, I think that's the main reason eyestott was kept alive, to hinge on me helping scum mislynch him the next day.

[Paragon]

Be honest, which setup looks more balanced?

• Multitasking Goon
  
• Multitasking Rolecop
  
• 1-shot Vigilante
  
• 2-shot Bulletproof
  
• Neapolitan
  
• 7 VT

• Multitasking Goon
  
• Multitasking Rolecop
  
• 1-shot Vigilante
  
• Neapolitan
  
• 8 VT

[OkaPoka]

bottom but im proposing a different setup?

[OkaPoka]

Multitasking JOAT (Rolecop/Gunsmith/Commuter)
Multitasking Goon
1-shot Vigi
2-shot BP
Neopolitan
7 VT

[OkaPoka]

fwiw 2-shot BP has a lot of negative utility in this setup, its barely a positive thing depending on player