Jigsaw's Revenge - Game Over

[Battle Mage]

glad i defended elsa at least
sadly i think she was vigged :c

Almost TMI, my man. Like, ALMOST.

Wait.

The flavor implied that Elsa was exploded and that she was gassed. I Think both were because of the traps. I dont think there was a vig.

But I do think it was evident from flavor that the traps killed Elsa.

It could be that the Vig also uses traps to kill?

[pisskop]

A good version of jigsaw?

was that in the movies?

[Almost50]

This looks like a lot of cherry picking of post.

VOTE: vault

Good call.

[Battle Mage]

Farside - who is in your PT?

[Battle Mage]

Not much in Vaultdweller's ISO on reflection. But definitely fits the bill as a partner for Momo - soft-heat without him ever being the top priority.

momo's reasoning on morning tweet is weak and battle mage looks bad for jumping on it so quickly

Vecna and momo hard defending battle mage like that is interesting. I can't see two teammates defending him so early in the game, unless he has a very powerful role. Though it could be that vecna is town and scum!momo jumped on vecna's defense of battle mage. Not sure what to think of the whole thing, but there's a good chance there's scum in it, probably either Drixx or Battle Mage/momo.

Who is in VaultDweller's PT?

[Almost50]

Why would the Mod pick?

Not as "hand pick on purpose", but rather "at random".

[Almost50]

glad i defended elsa at least
sadly i think she was vigged :c

Almost TMI, my man. Like, ALMOST.

Almost - what is the value of your traitor speculation?

So far, not much. But down the road it benefits us to hunt for one-way associatives (The Traitor knowing the scum team and them not knowing him/her). Also a variant of Traitor loses already if the main scum team is wiped out, so there's that.

[Albert B. Rampage]

glad i defended elsa at least
sadly i think she was vigged :c

Almost TMI, my man. Like, ALMOST.

Almost - what is the value of your traitor speculation?

So far, not much. But down the road it benefits us to hunt for one-way associatives (The Traitor knowing the scum team and them not knowing him/her). Also a variant of Traitor loses already if the main scum team is wiped out, so there's that.

Great reason for not lynching the traitor first if we suspect someone is groupscum.

[Battle Mage]

Why would the Mod pick?

Not as "hand pick on purpose", but rather "at random".

Not in a million years.

[Battle Mage]

ABR: Check PT first

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: Elsa Jay

Your ISO says you are a Traitor. That's ALL I got from it. You also said 7 was a lucky number and voted Drixx (who now says the hood is of 7 members) in the same post.

As I said, I will only be confident in your alignment when you flip, so excuse me while I go campaigning for your lynch today.

This was totally false and I was right to ignore it Day 1 man. I told BM EJ was town.

Just trust my reads I got this game figured out. Wait until everyone posts and explains what they've been up to and I'll lay out my plan.

[Almost50]

Who is in VaultDweller's PT?

That one is bugging me the most. I did some PT speculation on my own and -if I'm correct- he should be in the FBI PT, and those I found were all protagonists. HOWEVER, as fakeclaims are readily provided that's a minor point of worry to me. He could be "X" who is certified scum, but has a fake claim as an FBI agent.

P.S. If he is not with MT then he is in the large one and I'd leave it to them to decide on him based on their PT content.

[Battle Mage]

Danyboy's ISO is beyond dreadful, especially in light of Momo-scum.

I'm slightly leaning towards that over VaultDweller now. Especially if Vecna is town.

[Almost50]

Just trust my reads I got this game figured out. Wait until everyone posts and explains what they've been up to and I'll lay out my plan.

I mean, I am. I'm even voting one of them already. I won't deviate just to be different. Trust me on this.

[Battle Mage]

Vecna, is VaultDweller in your PT?

[Almost50]

Vecna is NOT in a PT!!

[farside22]

Farside - who is in your PT?

Ummmm i we outing all pt's.
I will say one thing.

Danyboy's ISO is beyond dreadful, especially in light of Momo-scum.

I'm slightly leaning towards that over VaultDweller now. Especially if Vecna is town.

Both these players are in a pt with me, in the large one, neither have given me anything to go on in there.

[farside22]

Also bm: i had a theory in the trap pt that scum might see what was posted in the pt. I asked the mod and he said no comment.

[Battle Mage]

and yes A50 I confirm I am a lone soldier, not in any hoods.

By my count 4 players have claimed NO HOOD, and the leaders collectively report a total of 14 players IN HOODS. 3 players are either hiding within the hoods or are declining to claim they're not in any.

Those 3 are within momo/EJ/Gamma/VD/Vecna/Hectic/dave/farside. I have removed Pine, Dany & BM as they have declared they were in a hood one way or another. I also dropped George because I liked GL's reasoning for town!him.

So, my preliminary lynch pool as of now is in momo/EJ/Gamma/VD/Vecna/Hectic/dave/farside (but that doesn't factor in how I gut read any of these slots)

Im not in any hood, and in my experience it is rarely +ev for town to publicly claim all this shit when hoods are not universal.

Id make an argument to look into whom are pushing for the mass reveal just in case it later turns out it mightve been relevant, but meh.

(just to elaborate, PR's that have functionality or have abilities triggered/enabled based on hoods etc is what gives me hesitance)

ah I missed this! no PT for Vecna then!

[GuiltyLion]

Gamma Emerald
VaultDweller
Vecna
iDanyboy
GeorgeBailey
Drixx
Blake Belladonna

VD - IHaveNoClue. A nonentity can be roped for good measure, but only if there isnt a stronger lynch out there.
Vecna - Townread. Will not do.
Dany - Mild town lean, nothing to make me resist his lynch.
GB - Who?
Drixx - Scumread. Didnt like how the felt flittery Day 1, but Im the last person to say I should be townread for being concrete.
Blake - Mild Scum Vibes. Is Blake the kind of person to play an alt differently than a main?

I like this direct response and I wanna similarly jump in with my thoughts on these slots here too, haven't caught up on the rest of D2 yet, this is in order of current preference to lynch

Gamma - super scummy, would lynch in a heartbeat
Dany - I could easily vote, Hectic vote was bad, doesn't feel transparent, doesn't seem to be engaged in most lines of the game
Drixx - Yeah given the flips/events of D1 this slot feels a lot worse. Weird resistance to pushing BM, shaded Momo but seemed more interested in pushing Vecna. Pine ripped into him p good at one point too
Blake - Don't like Blake's hectic vote either, and I think pisskop's question is good. I remember Ank being so much more involved with games I've had with her as town, the detachment here feels strange.
VD - I'm similarly null with pisskop on this slot, could lynch it but I'm not especially high on it being good odds of a scum lynch, someone I'd want to be much more involved in today's Discourse
GB - I still kinda think he's town for the early game, probably don't want to vote it today, though I do feel he's been less and less involved
Vecna - Agreed with pisskop, I think Vecna is town, not gonna vote here

[GuiltyLion]

I'm a bit busy, which is why my posting frequency is so low right now. As mentioned I also haven't read the last part of D2, so I can't give any real reads. Because of this fact I decided to ISO the most voted player today and see if I agree with their scuminess. If I did, I'd vote them. If not, I'd do the same for the next highest voted player, until I find someone who I agree is scummy.

this feels like it would be a bold approach from scum

[Battle Mage]

Vecna is NOT in a PT!!

yeah I know that NOW

[Battle Mage]

Farside - who is in your PT?

Ummmm i we outing all pt's.
I will say one thing.

Danyboy's ISO is beyond dreadful, especially in light of Momo-scum.

I'm slightly leaning towards that over VaultDweller now. Especially if Vecna is town.

Both these players are in a pt with me, in the large one, neither have given me anything to go on in there.

excellent - either of George Bailey or Blake? They are the last people missing from my PT/No PT list!

[farside22]

Let me know when you can give me a few minutes bm

[farside22]

Can we clear up a theory i have bm, please.
George is in the pt. Blake no.