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[Birds and the Boys]

is penguinpower annoyed? This is new....

~fire

[PenguinPower]

No, because you posted after your not understanding your role was brought up and ignored it.

Also, I'm an admin, but in this game I am a player first.

[PenguinPower]

is penguinpower annoyed? This is new....

~fire

I get annoyed when people quote me saying "I don't believe this" but then try to rationalize it anyway.

[Birds and the Boys]

@votato my hydra maates think ur scum too. Idgi. I am pretty indifferent/null to u.

~fire

[Birds and the Boys]

penguin don't get annoyed with me but part of me really believes u wouldn't get annoyed by that as town.

is there more eating at u?

~fire

[PenguinPower]

Nope.

I'm confirmable town so idrc.

[votato]

I'm confirmable town too. Scum, tell me who you're gonna janitor tonight pls.

[PenguinPower]

uh...yeah...that's not what I meant.

I'm literally mod-confirmable town.

[HoldenGolden]

Wow, good question.

Dont shrug it off you naughty penguin

That information where votato read a wiki was already in the thread for a bit. You quoted that post from votato eariler to dunn for the first half, meaning you at least read half of it. I dont know why it took me having to bring it up for you to announce your death tunnel.

852 feels like forced reaction to me because of it. You already seemingly knew what krazy posted about scums fakeclaims given the way you worded the first paragraph, making the whole emoji bit afterwards off. The follow up "this man needs to die no matter what" adds to it more.

852 was me being annoyed at you for trying to explain his not knowing his role despite the fact I already said I didn't believe him. Hence. The. Multiple. Periods. And. Explanation. With. Sarcasm. Injected.

Your question about me posting hyperbolically is a dumb question because what am I going to say? It's a leading question that prompts me to say yes.

I get annoyed when people quote me saying "I don't believe this" but then try to rationalize it anyway.

See and it lead to more discussion making it a great leading question.

So your annoyed with my explanation when we both have the same read on him? Yeah, people have different interpretations. That's literally the point of a subjective game. I could understand more if I said "I think his lack of knowing his own role is a dumbtell town" because it contradicts. But the fact he went to the wiki does nothing to contradict your views and in fact enhances it.

Yes I feel 852 is forced. Yes I'm trying to rationalize the why behind it.

[PenguinPower]

No, it's a bad question that led to useless discussion.

[Blatant Scum]

I am at a loss on who I should buddy up to this game. No one seems friendly enough for me to just pal around with.

Penguin is my mortal enemy.
Dunny is being boring.
Creature is Creature. How do u even buddy up to him.
Clover Ebi is gr8 but not active enough.
Bingle could be fun to buddy up to but probably won't win me any medals for tricking.
votato I haven't known long enough to form a real meaningful relationship so I can't possibly buddy him. I am no skank.
Farside not susceptible to my buddying
Hydras aren't buddy material
lol mastinaa
holy shit dr easy bake is in this gme? must be scum.

~fire

Buddy me.

[farside22]

VOTE: votato
Holdens push on the claim and lack of follow through from votato makes me think hes scum.
I still think birds is scum. Fire doesn't read his normally bubbly self

Lack of follow through in what capacity? On calvin? My push on what claim? My reasons to vote votato has nothing to do with his claiming of his role.

He did follow up technically at the top of the page, although its him talking about his short tenure on site.

As a side note, I think I know how his role works. If janitor targets somebody who doesn't die that night, but does the next. Will they be cleaned when they filp?

Sorry I thought you said something about Votato's claim. I can't remember who said it, but I remember someone said they wanted clarification on votato's claim.
He hasn't really clarified it till now. A janitor (doesn't allow a flip) doc/watcher. That makes no sense. How does a janitor work in that realm when you are saving a player? Is the player ever going to flip if successful?
Those are question I would have asked the mod to clarify.

VOTE: votato
Holdens push on the claim and lack of follow through from votato makes me think hes scum.
I still think birds is scum. Fire doesn't read his normally bubbly self

would it help u townread me if I told u I only lied about being miller once before as scum.

surely I wouldn't be so foolish to do that again.

~fire

no

u know back in my day I didn't need to barter for people to tunnel me. They would do it free of charge. Because they actually believed in me being scum.

I miss those times.

~fire

Well you have me thinking your scum so enjoy my tunneling while I'm here.

yeah... in my short tenure, I've learned that when i give firm early game reads i come off as scummy and have shit takes. I'll work on improving it. Farside can vouch.

VOTE: Votato L2 since last VC was a bit ago

You didnt give a firm read on Calvin though.

It's less about giving a firm or confused answer, and more how it is done. Scum from my experience tends to over justify things to look like their posting has more merit to it. You often see it in day 1 read lists by them for example where most of it is null reads with one or two paragraphs.

In your response to Calvin you, in order,
- said that it in theory is scum driven
- suggesting it is NAI
- its town because it can be used as a reaction test
- calvin isnt using it as a reaction test
- Calvin's usage of it is scummy
- but he needs to be asked questions regarding it to make sure.

Uncommital, self undermining, and more importantly overtly winded wishy washy read on Calvin.

I guess I could tie in you didnt end up questing calvin after that post which would also make sense from a townie presepctive, but I jumped the gun I think too quickly by revealing it to use it.

So:

What do you make of Dunn's unvote on you and farsides vote?
Are you just confused about bingles logic or do you think he is stretching to whitenight you? If latter, would it be scum or town driven?

I dont think much of either the vote or the unvote. I will say i think the order of those votes in quick succession probably means they aren't both scum.

I'm starting to think i just can't win here. Every time i take a firm stance early game people scum read me. So here i tried to just keep and open mind, and people scum read me anyway. Yes, im wishy washy and fence sitty. My reads will solidify as the game goes on. Maybe that's scummy, but it is what it is. If i need to be the day 1 lynch here, i guess that's fine. But I'm very much low hanging fruit, and i feel like there's gotta be scum driving this wagon.

My role explains the pieces. I didn't really realize how much i didn't understand it until i had to explain it. It seems that if my target gets janitored, i heal and watch. If not, i do nothing.

Penguin, can i have like 12 hours away from the game sometimes to sleep and go outside?

Pedit: yeah i agree. Pp seems forced and overblown. As an admin shouldn't he be the one telling us to chill?

Have you looked at the wagon? If you think scum are helping push it, why not start there?

[farside22]

Oh and I think taking someone's opinion is not something I have seen from you votato.

[votato]

Oh and I think taking someone's opinion is not something I have seen from you votato.

Taking someone's opinion?

[HoldenGolden]

yeah... in my short tenure, I've learned that when i give firm early game reads i come off as scummy and have shit takes. I'll work on improving it. Farside can vouch.

VOTE: Votato L2 since last VC was a bit ago

You didnt give a firm read on Calvin though.

It's less about giving a firm or confused answer, and more how it is done. Scum from my experience tends to over justify things to look like their posting has more merit to it. You often see it in day 1 read lists by them for example where most of it is null reads with one or two paragraphs.

In your response to Calvin you, in order,
- said that it in theory is scum driven
- suggesting it is NAI
- its town because it can be used as a reaction test
- calvin isnt using it as a reaction test
- Calvin's usage of it is scummy
- but he needs to be asked questions regarding it to make sure.

Uncommital, self undermining, and more importantly overtly winded wishy washy read on Calvin.

I guess I could tie in you didnt end up questing calvin after that post which would also make sense from a townie presepctive, but I jumped the gun I think too quickly by revealing it to use it.

So:

What do you make of Dunn's unvote on you and farsides vote?
Are you just confused about bingles logic or do you think he is stretching to whitenight you? If latter, would it be scum or town driven?

I dont think much of either the vote or the unvote. I will say i think the order of those votes in quick succession probably means they aren't both scum.

I'm starting to think i just can't win here. Every time i take a firm stance early game people scum read me. So here i tried to just keep and open mind, and people scum read me anyway. Yes, im wishy washy and fence sitty. My reads will solidify as the game goes on. Maybe that's scummy, but it is what it is. If i need to be the day 1 lynch here, i guess that's fine. But I'm very much low hanging fruit, and i feel like there's gotta be scum driving this wagon.

My role explains the pieces. I didn't really realize how much i didn't understand it until i had to explain it. It seems that if my target gets janitored, i heal and watch. If not, i do nothing.

Penguin, can i have like 12 hours away from the game sometimes to sleep and go outside?

Pedit: yeah i agree. Pp seems forced and overblown. As an admin shouldn't he be the one telling us to chill?

PPs admin status has nothing to do with his abilities nor expectations to play.

Then when you get back from your 12 hour covid 19, who do you think is the scum driving your wagon then?

Moving furniture right now so going to be back and forth

[HoldenGolden]

Ah farside already asked.

No, it's a bad question that led to useless discussion.

I find your lack of faith...disturbing

[Blatant Scum]

It seems that if my target gets janitored, i heal and watch. If not, i do nothing.

This is the very definition of "swing". I don't think there is a setup which this role would fit.

[gobbledygook]

Votato, why did you never give us that readslist you promised when you were at L-2?
Hydra buddy quote this into our iso, ty

[Birds and the Boys]

Votato, why did you never give us that readslist you promised when you were at L-2?
Hydra buddy quote this into our iso, ty

[votato]

Votato, why did you never give us that readslist you promised when you were at L-2?
Hydra buddy quote this into our iso, ty

I meant before d1 ends.

[Birds and the Boys]

Well you have me thinking your scum so enjoy my tunneling while I'm here.

I appreciate u farside

~fire

[farside22]

Oh and I think taking someone's opinion is not something I have seen from you votato.

Taking someone's opinion?

Pedit: yeah i agree. Pp seems forced and overblown. As an admin shouldn't he be the one telling us to chill?

Why does PP read forced and overblown if you believe this to be true?

[Calvin ānd Hobbes]

Wait, shit, I forgot Gobbles was in this game as part of that hydra.
LOL Gobbles not posting here means SCUMZZZ!

-Calvin

[HoldenGolden]

Wait, shit, I forgot Gobbles was in this game as part of that hydra.
LOL Gobbles not posting here means SCUMZZZ!

-Calvin

As the 1 shot confused miller governor, I dare you to try!

[April Ludgate]

A janitor (doesn't allow a flip)

Yes, this is what it does. I don’t get what you’re saying in this entire post.

Let me bring up Votato’s description