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Post Post #475 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 2:53 pm

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In post 472, Churros wrote:People associate "new" with "better" for some reason in our age.
It’s been like that at least for as long as I’ve been on site. I can remember people used to call out early scumreads that stayed scumreads as having “gone stale” as if scummy things stopped being scummy after a few days.
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Post Post #476 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 2:54 pm

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I have a new townread on alchemist and its better because its new, certified by rotten tomatoes to.
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Post Post #477 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 2:56 pm

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In post 476, Firebringer wrote:I have a new townread on alchemist and its better because its new, certified by rotten tomatoes to.
Is that based on the critics score or the audience score?
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Post Post #478 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 2:57 pm

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In post 477, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 476, Firebringer wrote:I have a new townread on alchemist and its better because its new, certified by rotten tomatoes to.
Is that based on the critics score or the audience score?
obviously audience score. critics score is terrible
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his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #479 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 2:58 pm

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In post 453, Peter Pan wrote:I may or may not have a role and the role that i may or may not have may or may not be strong. It might be both strong and nonexistent, or weak and real. Either way, I think this alch/FB interaction is maybe townie even as they both role fish?

however

I just meant that scum should hammer me because I am a strong player and I like to win.
this is dumb

i doubt ill be moving my vote off pan today
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Post Post #480 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 2:59 pm

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In post 471, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 469, Churros wrote:Now, my job is to convince people so let me be pretty cheeky here, and self-importat/pseudo-intelectual, since you guys love that stuff to bits.

I was actively reading Newbie 1966, which Jake took part in, and I was the unique player to be able to TR the guy by the end of day 1, when he got mislynched.

I checked his meta last night or so and what I was thinking is probably true.

You see, Jake is a player that's mislynched a lot unhappily. But it's also someone which I noticed a very notable difference in scum/town meta.

This game has 3 and a half days to it, more or less. I would like to wait even more, but I'm a bit impatient so whatever, if I'm wrong on this I won't feel too bad.

Jake is hard leaning to his scum meta.
What’s the difference in their meta?
In every town game of his to date, there's this:

1) He posts in average at least once a day in early game

2) He's to some extent at least involved in what's happening

3) He actually tries to solve alignments or discuss what's happening in the game at the moment

Now look at his ISO here, look at his "vote", look at what he actually came to comment here to "contribute" since the mod told him he did NEED to say something game-related.

I'll later do some highlight when I've more time to make this more appetizing, and steadily revelaing more info on the read is better than revealing it all in one go because it keeps the wagon/discussion burning, but when this game started, he was around, and was active in every other ongoing game but here.

To this date, there's no town game of him that he shows such a disinterest in early game, and goes on 3 days without engaging relevant things being discussed or so.

In fact, in newbie 1966 he was a town wreck, tunneling players, giving reads and all.

His wolf game though...there is a quote from himself that says it well to me:

"I don't know what to say".
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Post Post #481 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 3:01 pm

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im beginning to understand churros, maybe ur on to something
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Post Post #482 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 3:02 pm

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In his scum game he just keeps posturing by commenting on gamestate (see his redudant conclusion about the hammerer), has notable less activity than in his town games, and generally gives the feeling of forced posts/not knowing what to say.

I'm kind of positively sure that in one of his scum games, he stayed around until LyLo without actually posting proper reads/game content just because town was too busy with the oddballs to notice him coasting.

Sounds familiar to me to be honest...
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Post Post #483 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 3:03 pm

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Now, if I was to let him lurk for one straight week, there would be no excuse, but whatever. I'm all whatever about mafia at the moment.

I'm more interested in my dungeons.
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Post Post #484 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 3:03 pm

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Churros u had me at hello.
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"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #485 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 3:05 pm

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In post 480, Churros wrote:
In post 471, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 469, Churros wrote:Now, my job is to convince people so let me be pretty cheeky here, and self-importat/pseudo-intelectual, since you guys love that stuff to bits.

I was actively reading Newbie 1966, which Jake took part in, and I was the unique player to be able to TR the guy by the end of day 1, when he got mislynched.

I checked his meta last night or so and what I was thinking is probably true.

You see, Jake is a player that's mislynched a lot unhappily. But it's also someone which I noticed a very notable difference in scum/town meta.

This game has 3 and a half days to it, more or less. I would like to wait even more, but I'm a bit impatient so whatever, if I'm wrong on this I won't feel too bad.

Jake is hard leaning to his scum meta.
What’s the difference in their meta?
In every town game of his to date, there's this:

1) He posts in average at least once a day in early game

2) He's to some extent at least involved in what's happening

3) He actually tries to solve alignments or discuss what's happening in the game at the moment

Now look at his ISO here, look at his "vote", look at what he actually came to comment here to "contribute" since the mod told him he did NEED to say something game-related.

I'll later do some highlight when I've more time to make this more appetizing, and steadily revelaing more info on the read is better than revealing it all in one go because it keeps the wagon/discussion burning, but when this game started, he was around, and was active in every other ongoing game but here.

To this date, there's no town game of him that he shows such a disinterest in early game, and goes on 3 days without engaging relevant things being discussed or so.

In fact, in newbie 1966 he was a town wreck, tunneling players, giving reads and all.

His wolf game though...there is a quote from himself that says it well to me:

"I don't know what to say".
Ok. I’m not moving off Peter but this does help convince me that Jake is scum.
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Post Post #486 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 3:07 pm

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Peter saying he's a strong player rubs the wrong way, as his post asking for hammer, so I wouldn't mind if he's lynched, but I particularly give Jake higher odds at the moment.

If I'm wrong on Jake by any chance, I could see Peter being very likely scum, maybe.
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Post Post #487 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 3:08 pm

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In post 484, Firebringer wrote:Churros u had me at hello.
You had me at the "h"
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Post Post #488 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 3:08 pm

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don't really care about Zan hedging on me. If he's scum he's not going to be able to get me lynched anyways.
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Post Post #489 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 3:08 pm

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I'm going back to watch anime, see you.

Good luck slaying wolfs.
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Post Post #490 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 3:09 pm

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Conceited? Not me...
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Post Post #491 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 3:10 pm

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the Peter wagon seemed like it popped out of nowhere. popopopopo amd jake make a ton of sense as scum w/ each other and we should lynch one.
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Post Post #492 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 3:12 pm

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There's not much associative with Jake at the moment.

Don't make bad associations, it more often than not only hinders us.
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Post Post #493 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 3:15 pm

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In post 491, Nero Cain wrote:the Peter wagon seemed like it popped out of nowhere. popopopopo amd jake make a ton of sense as scum w/ each other and we should lynch one.
????? elaborate
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Post Post #494 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 3:35 pm

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In post 462, Churros wrote:Jake is probably scum for real?
It is easy to call a lowposter scum.
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Post Post #495 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 3:40 pm

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I would link to something, but for ominous reasons I won't
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Post Post #496 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 3:44 pm

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Ominous.
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Post Post #497 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 3:50 pm

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In post 492, Churros wrote:Don't make bad associations, it more often than not only hinders us.
ok but when/if Jake flips scum ppl or myself are going to say the same things. I'll never understand why y so many ppl are against pre-flip association especially considering that town players are on borrowed time.

But yea, popopopopop was all like "that's no reason to suspect him!" and the the "hrmmmm maybe Churros is onto something"
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Post Post #498 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 3:51 pm

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In post 494, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 462, Churros wrote:Jake is probably scum for real?
It is easy to call a lowposter scum.
y r u being a low poster?
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Post Post #499 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 3:59 pm

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In post 496, Alchemist21 wrote:Ominous.
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his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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