Jigsaw's Revenge - Game Over

[Gamma Emerald]

Also the key giving can be roleblocked so I don’t think we can try to conf anything off the key so never mind the idea of sparing ABR for the key

eh actually alright this is fair and I missed this when skimming earlier

What if the key is just a scum tool?

So they can put themselves into traps, have it announced but walk out while fooling everyone that theyre part of it.

It makes very little sense for his actual victims to have keys to the traps.

What if Gamma actually scumclaimed with his key shit?

No idea why he'd give it to ABR though, unless he's bussing here.

The way GE is approaching this feels like he's actively bussing, or trying to fire up a TvT

Not sure which it is exactly

Well I did notice the key was an outlier after seeing a few people claim limited immunity. But like I made a point to make sure I handed the key off and everyone was aware of it.

Also you’re kinda headpantsing here

[Albert B. Rampage]

Danny isn't going to lynch himself, guys, we need votes.

I'm also down to vote BM or Gamma.

[Gamma Emerald]

Vecna is your son,

He's not mine.

and has confirmed you town.

Feels good!

We're hopefully lynching ABR today.

VOTE: ABR

Until I get a grip on the game

Are you sure you want to vote with the scum so easily?

You should listen to reasonable players like MT, Drixx, GuiltyLion, and me.

Scum most likely is in BM/danny/gamma/blake.

“Reasonable players”

Seems more like “people who will do what I want”

[Albert B. Rampage]

Also the key giving can be roleblocked so I don’t think we can try to conf anything off the key so never mind the idea of sparing ABR for the key

eh actually alright this is fair and I missed this when skimming earlier

What if the key is just a scum tool?

So they can put themselves into traps, have it announced but walk out while fooling everyone that theyre part of it.

It makes very little sense for his actual victims to have keys to the traps.

What if Gamma actually scumclaimed with his key shit?

No idea why he'd give it to ABR though, unless he's bussing here.

The way GE is approaching this feels like he's actively bussing, or trying to fire up a TvT

Not sure which it is exactly

Well I did notice the key was an outlier after seeing a few people claim limited immunity. But like I made a point to make sure I handed the key off and everyone was aware of it.

Also you’re kinda headpantsing here

Why do you think danny is town, gamma?

[Gamma Emerald]

I don’t, but he’s not a full scumread either currently, he’s towards the middle of the pack. Blake however I’m treating as town.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I don’t, but he’s not a full scumread either currently, he’s towards the middle of the pack. Blake however I’m treating as town.

Why are you certain theres 2 scum in 4 person hood and 0 scum in 3 person hood?

[Gamma Emerald]

I am not certain about that. I could very well be wrong in my reads but I’m not going to doubt myself right now. And just because Danny might not be scum doesn’t mean my hood is clear.

[Morning Tweet]

@Gamma ABR could have been not put in a trap for WIFOM or scum might have feared a protective (which he did get protected).

@BM 2277 I do not think your flavour spec is particularly likely, no. That should probably be obvious after we debated it for like forever yesterday. I think putting 0 scum in 3, 2 in 4, etc. does sound balanced, but there's no reason for me to believe that scum is locked into PTs via flavour.

and holy shit itd be criminal if we lynched anyone other than dany

[Morning Tweet]

I think BM’s case on ABR is good. Now him trying to get any lynch through doesn’t help that. I don’t for what possible reason he is getting so angry at BM. Him not addressing BM’s case and just attacking him instead of the argument. I think BM and ABR have very similar play styles and to see ABR get so angry at a miss lynch doesn’t add up. You will miss lynch as town and I’m sure ABR has so why is he so mad at BM for?

That’s only one of his points, he has other points that make sense if you ignore set up speculation, and it doesn’t explain ABR’s reaction either.

How is "ABR is irrationally getting angry" even an argument for ABR!scum? From a surface level read standpoint, which is what this is, shouldnt that imply ABR is more likely town for getting emotional?

Your observations are correct but i find it very strange you use them as the justification for your vote. Yes it came from nowhere when ABR got mad. Why does that mean we should lynch ABR?

[Blake Belladonna]

I'm very curious why Albert B. Rampage has suddenly stopped tunneling me. I'd also like to know why Gamma Emerald is townbinning me.

Nothing I've done today necessitates or should change reads on me.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm very curious why Albert B. Rampage has suddenly stopped tunneling me. I'd also like to know why Gamma Emerald is townbinning me.

Nothing I've done today necessitates or should change reads on me.

ABR stopped tunneling you because it became an inviable option and has since moved onto Danny who has greater support

And I have you townbinned because of ABR’s attempt to chain lynch you from D2.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm very curious why Albert B. Rampage has suddenly stopped tunneling me. I'd also like to know why Gamma Emerald is townbinning me.

Nothing I've done today necessitates or should change reads on me.

Well I think your play is scummy but I've been under attack from gamma, bm, and danny.

[Blake Belladonna]

I'm very curious why Albert B. Rampage has suddenly stopped tunneling me. I'd also like to know why Gamma Emerald is townbinning me.

Nothing I've done today necessitates or should change reads on me.

Well I think your play is scummy but I've been under attack from gamma, bm, and danny.

Okay.

Is that the only reason for those reads?

[Albert B. Rampage]

FOUR OF THE REMAINING SCUM HIDE AMONG THESE SEVEN...

Gamma Emerald
VaultDweller
Vecna
iDanyboy
GeorgeBailey
Drixx
Blake Belladonna

Let's look at my reads start of day 2. The only change has been adding BM to the scum bucket due to his irrational attacks against me, and even then it's a slight scum read, he could be town with no idea what they are doing.

Vault and Vecna, nobody has really questioned them but one said he confirms the other as an IC.

George and Drixx have been MIA so I'm not sure.

So as you can see, Gamma/Blake/Danny have always been my scumreads.

[Blake Belladonna]

Can you explain the Gamma and Danyboy scumreads for me?

[Albert B. Rampage]

BTW I never get angry as scum, so it's ridiculous to me to take a 13 year meta, of me never losing my cool when I'm scum, and with that proven track record, people still think I can be scum here because "maybe on his 200th game he will do something different". It's clownish.

Gamma and Dany are lurkscum all the way to day 3 where they are more active to try to mislynch, they have done nothing town for the entire game.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I don't have any "ego" as scum, I know I am bad at it and I'm just putting up a front. So I never become upset. As town I am angry when people act irrational. Thats why I'm easily caught as scum. I'm not a good liar.

I don't see protown motivation in BM to say he is BP or in mislynching xtoxm or me. Or most of the crap he's done which is why I am angry with him.

[Blake Belladonna]

I don't entirely trust that meta read because it's entirely possible for somebody to improve at playing scum out of nowhere.

But in the interest in not restarting my tunnel, I will think upon it.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I don't entirely trust that meta read because it's entirely possible for somebody to improve at playing scum out of nowhere.

But in the interest in not restarting my tunnel, I will think upon it.

After 13 years, no, you don't suddenly improve at it.

[Albert B. Rampage]

and you don't get frustrated like this either.

[Blake Belladonna]

My scumgame was terrible for 13 years.

[Albert B. Rampage]

My scumgame was terrible for 13 years.

It's still terrible.

[Blake Belladonna]

I see you're as charming as ever.

[SirCakez]

[SirCakez]