On the Flying Scumsman (Abandoned)

[John Cena]

I don't know if rest of town has figured it out yet but Fahrenheit is today's lynch. I mean it doesn't go through for three days because events but eddie is definitely getting lynched today. The only way he survives is if boon scumclaims again

[Fahrenheit]

@Searchers: only Key is poisoned. I was told I am roleblocked and this is continuous until the roleblocking action is removed, nothing about money but I dont think we had money anyways.

@John Cena: I don't need to do anything mate. Your slot is pretty irrelevant to me this game, no offense. Searchers, Hectic, and BHD are who I credit the scum lynches to, you tried to vanity wagon me yesterday and are continuing today. I think you lean town and I don't really give a shit if you vanity vote us today again, maybe Key will feel otherwise.

[John Cena]

Ok then you will die

[The Searchers]

You honestly shouldn't credit us with the Androids lynch. We were very wrong for most of the day.

Anyway that confirms that Foxy didn't roleblock y'all which is why I asked.

@John Cena

: Was there something particular that you saw from the Fahrenheit slot that is causing you to push this so hard? What has Flavortown done to make you not want to lynch them over Fahrenheit?

Oh and ftr, Hectic should not sell GeorgeBailey, at least not right now. I know this is a backtrack from my stance yesterday, but Foxy was gunning for GeorgeBailey being sold pretty hard yesterday. With them flipping scum, I don't think that was a bus. I think that was an attempt to remove another town slot.
~Ircher

[Cappy]

Nice. I'm writing this game off as a win thanks to this amazing town.

Blake & Yang, do we owe you a soul or two or was that free of charge?

~Hectic

[Cappy]

I treasure my GeorgeBailey; he is an amazing companion. You'd have to offer me another GeorgeBailey or multiple "GeorgeBailey"s if you wanted me to sell my one.

~Hectic

[John Cena]

I just want boon to update his claim first, he is very scummy but not guaranteed scum

I am looking at eddie's reaction right now. Town does not look at 2 scum flips, get asked for a solve, and then say "nahhhhh". Eddie is obvious scum literally off this dayphase alone

[Fahrenheit]

If it makes you feel better I think Flavor is pretty likely mafia. I don't think you should consider yourself qualified to scum read me in any capacity, never mind with this degree of confidence. This is also a waste of thread space.

- E

[Flavortown]

We aren’t going to flip scum

VOTE: Flavortown

I can’t say my result. Not a fan of this game

[Cappy]

What the fuck who brought me back to this misery.

I didn't read anything of D2, I'll ask Hectic to tell me what's going on. The only thing I talked with Hectic during D2 was that Titus was probably manipulating me on our PT so kudos to John Cena for that one (Eddie saying John is irrelevant is not true. I can't see him, but he's pretty relevant).

- Silver Bullet

[Cappy]

Oh Eddie is the Maria's slot? Yeah that should be the lynch today.

- Silver Bullet

[The Searchers]

Hectic, do you not have a posting restriction today?
~Ircher

[Cappy]

I do! You've very sharp to pick up on the fact I might not. Maybe you can guess what it is after enough time's passed.

~Hectic

[John Cena]

We aren’t going to flip scum

VOTE: Flavortown

I can’t say my result. Not a fan of this game

OK say boon's result then

Also why have you not actually explained your result from yesterday if you're going to self vote today

[John Cena]

glancing back at my PTs my April 12 solve was Titus + Boon + Pine + Cakez, so even if Boon and Cakez are both town I had this game at least 50% solved a month ago, Eddie

But please, continue talking shit :3

[Feminist Blocc]

hello friends, this is an important post so please read it.

yesterday, i made the mistake of trusting pine enough to roleclaim in our "hood". now that foxy has flipped red, meaning scum is aware of our roles, i don't think there's any benefit in hiding our roles from the town.

ausuka is a special neighbourizer, better described as a Kidnapper. once a night, she can add ("kidnap") an individual hydra head into a "hood", flavour-wise it's an alternate dimension. while in that dimension (other than obviously being able to privately communicate), players cannot target anyone outside that dimension (meaning, they are effectively roleblocked for anyone not part of the hood), however they also cannot be targeted by anyone outside of the dimension (effectively they are commuting for anyone not inside the hood).

also, pine's flip was supposed to be janitored, because he died while he was in the alternate dimension. i think his flip is a mod error, and have contacted alisae about it.

i am the Gatekeeper. once a night, i can release an individual hydra head from the alternate dimension into the real one (or kick them out of the "hood", more precisely.) also, should i have any actions, i am able to target anyone either inside or outside the hood.

on night 1, ausuka kidnapped pine while i obviously did not take an action. last night, i again did nothing, and ausuka successfully kidnapped another hydra head, however considering pine (most likely) isn't leaking information to scum anymore, i am not sure if there is benefit to claiming who it is right now (and the smarter head of this hydra is currently busy so i'm not able to bother her about it at the moment.)

-D

[John Cena]

Did pine do anything to make you trust him?

[Feminist Blocc]

err, not quite, no. we claimed fairly early into the hood on the basis of "letting him know the hell the hood is for" since we were getting a feeling he may be town (and we didn't want a nasty surprise of his action potentially failing). then later on he was acting kinda confused in the hood and mixing up some basic facts/events from the game that i kinda thought he's more likely town for it. also, ausuka had a stronger scumread on titus, so we were kinda focusing on that.

in retrospect, it obviously wasn't the best idea.

-D

[John Cena]

Ok cool who do you wanna lynch today inside eddie cane, eddie cane, or wildcard eddie cane? :3

[Feminist Blocc]

sorry, most of this game is going over my head, eli5 why they should hang today?

Also I think it is now mechanically confirmed boon lied about his commuter claim so he can realclaim today or eat rope

also why is this a thing?

-D

[Fahrenheit]

I will preface with two things:
1) If you think my slot is apathetic now, just wait until I send my computer in for repairs tomorrow or the day after.
2) I subbed in as a favor, and I don't consider subbing in and doing nothing fair. So I will give you a seriousish post or two.

glancing back at my PTs my April 12 solve was Titus + Boon + Pine + Cakez, so even if Boon and Cakez are both town I had this game at least 50% solved a month ago, Eddie

But please, continue talking shit :3

Your slot is pretty irrelevant to me this game, no offense

If you want to find me scum you are definitely getting lynched today so you can just preflip me town because any other read of me will be treated as a scumclaim

It is not talking shit. You do not have a track record of being able to read me. I have you as town. You have done a stupid push on me for two days. Therefore, you are irrelevant to me. "Any other read of me will be treated like a scum claim" is objectively terrible. Scum are far more likely to appease and just handwave you as town, and town are more likely to push back. I think you are more likely town than not. My read of you does not matter. I did not indicate you are scum, nor push you, and me pushing that should not instantly give you the yearning to autokill me. And speaking of wanting to autokill me, I'm a dude who subbed in 4 days before an 8 day night phase and barely cared about the game then. Why would my solve even matter to you? I've read way less of the game than any other slot and committed far less time. If I had a confident solve or vote I wanted to push, I would do it, traffic copping is useless on slots like mine. I believe you're a pretty good forum player. I read you as town who wants to be the one to valiantly lead the lynch on powerscum Fahrehnheit; if you watch Survivor, this is the equivalent of resume building. If I am wrong and you are mafia, then I am playing poorly around it, but it is irrelevant for today because I am not interested in lynching your slot - hence, you are not relevant to me today.

If you want me to argue why I am town, I can do that pretty easily. Myself and Key are both competent players as both alignments. Mafia dying there with 4 votes indicates an incompetent and/or completely afk team.

The biggest wagons are 3 and 4, so people should probably vote one of them unless you have a damn strong reason not to. Key or I will be around to place a vote whenever we feel ready, we won't end the day no lynching.

We were clearly able to be around at EoD,

In reading through Searchers, I'm surprised they have a bit more traction over someone like egospray or whichever head of that is still around. They seem very upfront with reads, engage well and make what seem like sensible proposals for actions. Not someone I'd be lynching right now. There's also that M&K is pushing there, who I've soured on a bit since I was last awake enough to post.

I would prefer to kill EA over Search lightly

and both Key and I chose to defend what we now know to be the one (probably) town out of the three wagons. I don't know if you or many people have played role madness games before, but bussing is far worse than in normal games - town PRs are able to clutch late game quite often despite bussing and being widely town read, it happened to Smocaine in the second last one I played on MS (where I had the 4 headed hydra with jjh etc), and I rolled scum in the last one I played on MS and won the game - Elli's only loss as town in the last few years on site I believe, by the way . You win by aligning, and dying to night actions from town is whatever, but dying to a lynch is horrible. EA had 3 votes, Foxy had 4, we know at least town Mikoto was pushing Searchers pretty hard, and Searchers had my slot as scummy. There is every excuse to vote him over EA, or Mikoto, or Foxy there, and save EA. This is pretty simple logic, and a better way to find us as town than with "scum reads".

Another great reason why my slot is town is that two super scummy actions - permaish roleblock and poison - were used on our heads, and are not claimed by town. AKA, scum targeted us with bad things. Another good one is that we are a protective and have another provable pro-town role, not sure if Key wants me to claim it.

If you want me to argue why other people are mafia, I can't. I have not read at least 90% of the game, and I get good reads through live interactions anyways. My opinion shouldn't matter to somebody who's read 150 pages of this game. If I had reads I wanted to share, I would. I have not touch based with Key yet, and we can figure out where our reads are if she plays this game. But I'll give you a spoiler: her reaction to being poisoned was "what is poison", "OH", "lol", "ok i'm fine with death tbh". Our other musings include how site deadlines are too long and even they pale to a 7 day night, asking if we have money, and my favorite convo which I will redact.

Our messages do NOT include many reads, because both of us are busy and neither of us have read much of the game. And that's fine, I do not think we are, like, lock town. But this "you are the only lynch today unless you bury >specific person< is utter nonsense.

Also, half of why I let JJ talk me into recruiting Key and joining is because of Nacho and Tammy (along with a generally decent playerlist) so fuck youse two >:(

If you are

interested

in sorting my slot, be my guest and phrase things more thought-provoking. If you are going to post ultimatums and call us the always lynch, I do not want to engage with you anymore this game.

In terms of reads

, I think the rest of the scum are probably in Checkmate, George, Lati@s, Flavor, maybe Damocles. But I have a lot of town and some of that PoE have reasons to be town, so its pretty possible there's bussers. Most of my reads are based off vote logic, mechanics, and the last ~10 pages of the game. Flavor > Lati@s is where I think I would start. I might confer with Key later. Part of why I am

not

posting solves is because I don't like to clear people off just being on a lynched scum, but having two scum flips that were wagoned is pretty major. If Searcher is mafia, for example, my solve is probably pretty off, but if all 3 mafia managed to be wagoned in a game as dead as this... it'd be pretty insane.

[John Cena]

Mafia dying there with 4 votes indicates an incompetent and/or completely afk team.

I mean you say this, but you being around would not have meant that you alone would have been able to shift wagons off Titus, if your other partner was AFK then you at most could have tied the Titus wagon on Searchers which still results in a Titus flip and then also spews Searchers town even more heavily (if they are town and you are scum).

Beyond that, my concern is that your PoE looks scummy:
I need to reread Damocles, their town in PT has been hyper-town, I don't think they did a great job pushing actual flipped scum but that happens sometimes. I think beyond that their PoE has been good and they've found a lot of actual town.

Checkmate is a read you're welcome to expand on but I kinda want to think Alyssa would have actually scumclaimed to me when I claimed 3P in our PT. Maybe not, her reads have been a little below average this game kinda so I can kinda see her being PoE'd for people who haven't pre-flipped me town, but if you do pre-flip me town then you realize she was white-knighting me hard day 1 which would be surprising for scum Alyssa when doing so did not really get her townread

And then frankly George and Latios just look like lynchbait. Gamma gets scumread in every game ever, I kinda thought he was town day 1 and he's been absent since so he ~could~ be scum but he's usually just town here, and George seemed to desperately want to be in a PT and then was disappointed he wasn't which seems kinda weird if he's scum. Also, whether he lives or dies is basically up to cappy since they can just sell him ~whenever~, and probably? should soon unless George gets much townier

And then you have Flavor, with the scummy cop claim that went unexplained and the scummy commuter claim from Boon. So I don't mind lynching that slot when DEB seems to just refuse to explain his claim in a way that makes sense. So they can be scum, but you need a second scum after scum Boon and right now I don't see another scum outside scum boon other than you

[The Searchers]

Fwiw, I'd rather lynch Flavor first over Fahrenheit rn. I don't think their PoE is that bad/unreasonable even if it may be "easy". That self vote was really bad, and I don't see why town!Flavortown would self-vote there when they aren't in high danger of being lynched.
~Ircher

[Feminist Blocc]

VOTE: flavortown

i'm fine with this for now. i remember ausuka saying she wasn't getting a good feeling from the slot, plus their commuter claim is a tad close to our role.

-D

[The Searchers]

VOTE: Flavortown
~Ircher