Mini 2133: XP Mafia II (Game Over)

[Ame]

My role is quite powerful. And considering Pine's, I'm wondering what scum have to balance it out. There's another part to my initial role

and

I received another component from the upgrade.

The plan:

~Whoever we think is scum, we have them claim their XP: Raya, Creature, Knight I think.
~We capture one of them.
~The other two gift me the entirety of their XP.

I should be able to determine if they truly gifted me the correct amount based on what I receive.
I also have a way to determine if they are being deceptive with the second part of my role.
Since they are gifting all their XP, they will be unable to perform the night kill. (You can't kill and gift at the same time)
We aim investigative roles at them and continue this process over multiple days/nights while everyone else trains and upgrades.

Further, if there is a night kill and I receive the correct amount of XP, we know there is scum outside of the group. So scum will have to show themselves one way or the other, or allow all town roles and investigatives free reign to investigate and do their upgrades.

Creature, I've asked you a number of times if your are OK with this plan.

[Creature]

Idk I think I'll keep my XP

[Creature]

Do I still get to upgrade?

[Creature]

Capture me, but don't lynch me

[Ame]

OK I've rearead. I'm going to eat, be back in a bit.

[Raya36]

Creature is the only one who hasn't agreed to gift, so we can capture Creature while Raya and Knight gift me.

This sounds good to me

[Hectic]

Oh, when Ame says "Capture", she actually means

Capture

.

I still think we should be lynching for sure. Do you disagree with my points on momo, Ame?

[Ame]

I don't think 146 comes from scum. In particular, the line "On the disable strongman? Why would you choose this" isn't something I think comes from the sort of self-consciousness that comes with being scum. Additionally, I dove into momo's meta and his scum play is quite different.

He could truly believe disable strongman is bad while also being scum, in which case the "why would you choose this?" is genuine.

If he truly believes he can be "proved as town" in 280 and 1066, then why not re-propose it after everyone ignores it? His replace-out also makes less sense if he's of that belief. (He /inned to a large game right after replacing out of this one).

And do you think he really believes that he can be confirmed as town by having a quest leader double vote? That ability sounds like it could come from either alignment, and maybe is actually a little more likely to come from scum.

Very well. Let's instead Capture Knight. Alisae and Raya gift. Creature does not.


Ali and Raya, how much XP do you have? And how much did you begin with?

[Alisae]

I feel like if Hectic looked into Momo's games and just how that person plays the game, maybe his take would be different here

[Ame]

(1) Have you done either of these yet? The meta dives that is.

Went through some of hectic's past games looking for tonal observations. I think that he is town.

(2) Who do you find suspicious other than Spring?

At the moment, I'll say that I find flight scummy as well.

(3) What do you think of the reasoning presented in 454?

It's good logic. I read the Hectic post referenced as a townslip. The case on spring is pretty solid too.

(4) What's the origin of your username? I think of momo from A:TLA. But also of peaches.

It's an abbreviation of a joke with some friends irl.

My issue with momo is #3 here. He is agreeing with Farkran's 454 which was scummy and didn't make sense. And he is agreeing that Hectic townslipped for townreading Spring's ordering of the questers, which also does not make sense.

[Alisae]

We should lynch Raya and try to stay focused here.

[Ame]

Why Raya?

[Ame]

Also what happened to your avatar!? Not to complain, I do love the color.

[Ame]

Do you not think the points in 1834 are valid?

[Ame]

Also you agreed with the plan before. What is the issue?

[Pink Ball]

Fuck it's 5 hours now.

Ali why don't you want to lynch Knight who is now voting you and it's mastina's slot

Who else is a viable alternative right now

[Pink Ball]

Dude voted Ali who is not a viable lynch and yeeted saying he's out to sleep so he parked his vote there, not cooperating with an actual lynch

[Alisae]

reading some of your recent interactions with raya, i'll help you out with this ame
VOTE: raya

I think the team is exactly Knightmare and Raya
Knightmare mostly for mastina's posts.

i thought i wasn't going to need to talk about why but ok sure ig

I read Farkset's ISO and most of the things I saw pointed towards her being a teammate there.
I read Raya iso and didn't really like their stance on Fark v Spring when they didn't commit to anything w/ a vote or something and like they kinda positioned themselves against farkset but 954 disliked farkset the most out of spring v fark 1017 "I'm just really torn on the farkset slot. One minute I think they must be scum then the next they seem town." 1049 going farkset or momo 1246 gets mad at spring for not voting

NEXT DAY

1278 calls spring town
1293 entertains Spring v Fark as SvS
1342 votes spring
1428 doesn't wanna go for spring

[Alisae]

Ame I don't need to tell you that ur Raya case was good.
I was reading Pine and Raya's ISOs together to try to figure out what was going on there.
Raya's progression is weird there and it kinda feels like Raya doesn't exactly know what she wants?

Also like, just look at how save 954 is. It reminds me a lot of how I just tried to prevent Looker from getting lynched for as long as possible by taking a safe stance on him but never commiting to it.

[Alisae]

Also what happened to your avatar!? Not to complain, I do love the color.

avatar trend on site atm
I'll change it back later dw

[Alisae]

Do you not think the points in 1834 are valid?

no because momo is probably one of the worst players I've ever seen try to play the game.

[Alisae]

Fuck it's 5 hours now.

Ali why don't you want to lynch Knight who is now voting you and it's mastina's slot

Who else is a viable alternative right now

Honestly
claim feels town
I agree with Ginngie on that.

[Alisae]

PB what do you think of Raya my guy

[Alisae]

Also you agreed with the plan before. What is the issue?

honestly
mostly because ur telling me to gift XP and I'm not sure why me

[Ame]

Is there an issue with claiming your XP?