Jigsaw's Revenge - Game Over

[Battle Mage]

Unvote, Vote: BBMolla

I'll lead the charge again then...

ABR tomorrow please, for the love of God...

[Morning Tweet]

@BM You only find me scummy because you think ABR is so confirmed scum that anyone defending him must be doing so disingenuously. I'm finding it increasingly pointless to try and debate with you

You allow your own tunnel vision on your ABR read and setup spec to shape the way you view the entire game. For example, my defense of ABR is somehow invalid because I townread him prior to having that reaction to you pushing him. I townread him before, i am still townreading him now. it makes sense to anyone who isnt currently locked into a deathtunnel

[Morning Tweet]

MorningTweet, please see above. If you're town, don't spend the rest of the day running around bandwagonning people and getting claims for no reason. If we've outted another investigative (and that's a BIG IF), then that's already pretty bad. We should be expecting scum to be firing out some decent PR based fakeclaims by now, after what happened with Momo and ABR.

You will have to explain to me again why you strongly don't want ABR to be the lynch today. Because earlier, your reason was that you would rather lynch Danyboy. Now you doubt yourself on Danyboy, but you still won't go back to ABR, despite acknowledging he could be scum. It doesn't add up.

I'm struggling to find the 4 scum is why. I'm not sure of any reads right now.

If ABR is scum here he sure has gone back to being very good at acting the other way

This is probably the best way i can put it BM. if he is scum he is a good actor

I don't believe you. You've always maintained he was town: when he was acting erratic, when he was acting stable, angry, happy, indifferent.

???

Am i misinterpreting what you mean by this? You don't believe me because i townread him before and after the start of today.

[Battle Mage]

@BM You only find me scummy because you think ABR is so confirmed scum that anyone defending him must be doing so disingenuously. I'm finding it increasingly pointless to try and debate with you

You allow your own tunnel vision on your ABR read and setup spec to shape the way you view the entire game. For example, my defense of ABR is somehow invalid because I townread him prior to having that reaction to you pushing him. I townread him before, i am still townreading him now. it makes sense to anyone who isnt currently locked into a deathtunnel

I'm not going to explain it at length again.

Vecna said he thought ABR was scummier before and townier now.
You said Vecna's position reflected yours.
It doesn't - you never thought ABR was scummy.
Therefore you didn't read what Vecna said, and just used it to defend ABR because it was the nearest thing available and all you are concerned with is defending ABR at all costs.

Therefore, you aren't really thinking and engaging with this - you're simply plucking things at random to defend him, even when there's no need!
It isn't credible behaviour from somebody town, it's a parody. The only conceivable explanation could be that you are a cop with an innocent investigation on him, but that isn't compatible with times earlier in the day where you've said he "could" be scum. So your story doesn't add up.

We don't need to debate it further, I've definitely heard enough to form a view. Vote for 1 of my 3 options I've given you.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Unvote, Vote: BBMolla

I'll lead the charge again then...

ABR tomorrow please, for the love of God...

Total capitulation. Pathetic.

[Vecna]

Unvote, Vote: BBMolla

I'll lead the charge again then...

ABR tomorrow please, for the love of God...

Total capitulation. Pathetic.

bro....

[Battle Mage]

Unvote, Vote: BBMolla

I'll lead the charge again then...

ABR tomorrow please, for the love of God...

Total capitulation. Pathetic.

Now now now
No more Mr Hyde
Albert B. Rampage
He's never satisfied

[Albert B. Rampage]

Unvote, Vote: BBMolla

I'll lead the charge again then...

ABR tomorrow please, for the love of God...

Total capitulation. Pathetic.

bro....

What? I thought he meant it when he said I was scum and wasn't changing his vote forever. I didn't know forever just meant 48h.

[Vecna]

VOTE: Drixx
VOTE: BBmolla
VOTE: Blake Bel

[Battle Mage]

Unvote, Vote: BBMolla

I'll lead the charge again then...

ABR tomorrow please, for the love of God...

Total capitulation. Pathetic.

bro....

What? I thought he meant it when he said I was scum and wasn't changing his vote forever. I didn't know forever just meant 48h.

Don't worry, you ain't gonna make it anywhere close to endgame after today, so your time will come, thanks to me.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Bring it.

[Battle Mage]

you've changed your tune. not so long ago you REALLY did not want to be lynched today. so excuse me if I don't buy the false bravado and laissez faire attitude now.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You failed to persuade town players because you lack...conviction.

[Drixx]

Vecna is also outside hoods, but I instinctively believe his claim. Although if VaultDweller hasn't already confirmed it, can someone please get him to do so? Just to verify that his flavour also includes something about looking for his son.

There is no mention of a son in my role, but I mean, if someones going to clear me as town, who am I to second guess them?

I think Vecna also mentioned that I didn't know about him

And just like that ...

[Morning Tweet]

I'm not going to explain it at length again.

Vecna said he thought ABR was scummier before and townier now.
You said Vecna's position reflected yours.
It doesn't - you never thought ABR was scummy.
Therefore you didn't read what Vecna said, and just used it to defend ABR because it was the nearest thing available and all you are concerned with is defending ABR at all costs.

No, i quoted the part where vecna said that ABR would have to be a really good actor if he is scum

Which i totally agree with. You are trying your very best to discredit my position not wanting to vote ABR because you literally cannot see any situation other than A.) im scum or B.) i lack critical reasoning and just go with what other people think

Calling

me

the person who is honed in on a single read, unwilling to change their opinion, and will do anything to support that opinion is insanely ironic and does nothing to make me want to change my mind

[Battle Mage]

MorningTweet, I didn't discredit you, you discredited yourself. I don't care about you beating this dead horse, everyone else has moved on. are you going to vote for somebody? or do anything besides be a cheerleader for ABR? I'll settle for the pretense of scumhunting.

[Vecna]

Vecna is also outside hoods, but I instinctively believe his claim. Although if VaultDweller hasn't already confirmed it, can someone please get him to do so? Just to verify that his flavour also includes something about looking for his son.

There is no mention of a son in my role, but I mean, if someones going to clear me as town, who am I to second guess them?

I think Vecna also mentioned that I didn't know about him

And just like that ...

Cmon, give us some more than this simple rub n tug

If youre going to be suspicious about me, at least do it properly

[Morning Tweet]

MorningTweet, I didn't discredit you, you discredited yourself. I don't care about you beating this dead horse, everyone else has moved on. are you going to vote for somebody? or do anything besides be a cheerleader for ABR? I'll settle for the pretense of scumhunting.

(一ω一)

you make me want to take a dozen naps

Spoiler: Beating a dead horse

only just noticed this.

Why are you so sure ABR is town?

This is probably the best way i can put it BM. if he is scum he is a good actor

I don't believe you. You've always maintained he was town: when he was acting erratic, when he was acting stable, angry, happy, indifferent.

@BM You only find me scummy because you think ABR is so confirmed scum that anyone defending him must be doing so disingenuously. I'm finding it increasingly pointless to try and debate with you

You said Vecna's position reflected yours.
It doesn't - you never thought ABR was scummy.
Therefore you didn't read what Vecna said, and just used it to defend ABR because it was the nearest thing available and all you are concerned with is defending ABR at all costs.

Therefore, you aren't really thinking and engaging with this - you're simply plucking things at random to defend him, even when there's no need!

No, i quoted the part where vecna said that ABR would have to be a really good actor if he is scum

Which i totally agree with. You are trying your very best to discredit my position not wanting to vote ABR because you literally cannot see any situation other than A.) im scum or B.) i lack critical reasoning and just go with what other people think

MorningTweet, I didn't discredit you, you discredited yourself. I don't care about you beating this dead horse, everyone else has moved on. are you going to vote for somebody? or do anything besides be a cheerleader for ABR? I'll settle for the pretense of scumhunting.

All im doing is responding to you. why ask me why i think ABR is town or tell me you don't believe im being genuine, if you also feel like we're beating a dead horse? furthermore, i would never participate in an act of animal cruelty

dont try to make me feel like im dragging this issue on and on, and being so terribly useless just to get me on your new bandwagon. it's just sort of annoying at best

[Vecna]

I dont think ill ever vote for Morning Tweet this game

Cant fake this shit

[Albert B. Rampage]

MT is awesome.

[Drixx]

Vecna is also outside hoods, but I instinctively believe his claim. Although if VaultDweller hasn't already confirmed it, can someone please get him to do so? Just to verify that his flavour also includes something about looking for his son.

There is no mention of a son in my role, but I mean, if someones going to clear me as town, who am I to second guess them?

I think Vecna also mentioned that I didn't know about him

And just like that ...

Cmon, give us some more than this simple rub n tug

If youre going to be suspicious about me, at least do it properly

You just aren't that dense. VaultDweller can't clear you. That

could

mean that you are a one way IC clear for him when you die. Or it could mean you are scum and you have a cool fake claim that you're taking advantage of.

It's interesting that YOU decided to bite on my post. It was much more meant to be aimed at VD who somehow apparently didn't take 10 seconds to think through the implications. But then YOU are the one who felt a prick and had to respond?

[SirCakez]

Prodding GeorgeBailey.

[GeorgeBailey]

Alright, So idany claims cop, and i'm seeing a chain reaction of unvoting.

Why does this townclear him exactly? Wouldn't Scum know who all the scum are? He could clear anyone and get away with it. And Momo obviously had the capacity to fakeclaim a PR, why is Idany different?

And i'm glad we all agree MT is locktown lmao.

[pisskop]

No mate. The somebody in a hood full of cops claims cop?

[Vecna]

Vecna is also outside hoods, but I instinctively believe his claim. Although if VaultDweller hasn't already confirmed it, can someone please get him to do so? Just to verify that his flavour also includes something about looking for his son.

There is no mention of a son in my role, but I mean, if someones going to clear me as town, who am I to second guess them?

I think Vecna also mentioned that I didn't know about him

And just like that ...

Cmon, give us some more than this simple rub n tug

If youre going to be suspicious about me, at least do it properly

You just aren't that dense. VaultDweller can't clear you. That

could

mean that you are a one way IC clear for him when you die. Or it could mean you are scum and you have a cool fake claim that you're taking advantage of.

It's interesting that YOU decided to bite on my post. It was much more meant to be aimed at VD who somehow apparently didn't take 10 seconds to think through the implications. But then YOU are the one who felt a prick and had to respond?

I felt a prick to respond because youre sticking to this minimalist game participation so noone can read you accurately.

Also, do you think a scum fakeclaim would actually have the flavour of another person in the game in it?

Because vaultdweller is Eric Matthews

Regardless, youre not actually trying to read me. Youre just appealing to the mechanical possiblity that I could still be scum. Which obviously is true, because were indeed not masons. That is how my role is designed.

So once again, feel free to actually come after me. Instead of hiding behind my role design.

And I care not for your scumread. I care for your lazy approach to this game