On the Flying Scumsman (Abandoned)

[Latias and Latios]

The Fox head of foxy is xofelf so that's a no

-Latias

[Flavortown]

Definitely not L-1.

Lol, so George scum claiming with Ausuka.

[Flavortown]

I think i'm 180ing my SR on Searchers from today's flip. Their wagon seemed to be a counter wagon with

Androids

and

Kuroko

on it, with Androids switching for survivability.

I’m driving so sorry if nothing in that claim post makes sense

Pedit:

VOTE: Searchers

Yes this hydra experiment is like not going super well Titus and I have very different reads

I’m driving so sorry if nothing in that claim post makes sense

Pedit:

VOTE: Searchers

Yes this hydra experiment is like not going super well Titus and I have very different reads

Absolutely no clue who Searcher hydra is, but I see this is Gobb and Titus.

VOTE: Searchers

Book em, people. I’ve decided.

And honestly, yeah this looks really sus so close together.

VOTE: FlavorTown

Key has a day action that is publicly confirmable, and we think it could be beneficial with only two scum alive if we mass claimed. It gets even better with 1 scum alive, so if somebody could heal her it would be swell. My head has a protective, as claimed, but I am as the flavor indicates semi permanently roleblocked now. I agree, more people should discuss mass claiming.

I’m down to mass claim.

This is town points for Eddie as well.

I quoted the George one because I have a theory.

My theory is scumFemm posted in a scum thread for GB to vote me to put me to L-1 when I had a lot of votes. He went back and made sure to find a reason to vote, albeit weak and irrelevant.

So I actually do think it is scum indicative of GB.

Femm Block is scum. Mark my words.

[Check and Checkmate]

CO Blake's explanation of her kill once again rings to me like a confident construction of actions she thinks she can get away with.

I'm very curious what exactly you mean by this.

-Blake

[Superb Subtlety]

Reminder that I'll be doing a minigame in about 4 hours-ish

[The Searchers]

I think that's generally a scum argument b/c it doesn't give any insight into your thought process and seems like it's trying to build a consensus against me

VOTE: Searchers

-Latias

I don't know what you're looking for here
You were absent end of day 2 when scum was being wagoned
Gamma is playing like he did in Doubles
You are in my (already small) POE pool
Your posts today don't look like excited town (which town should be as we have half the scumteam dead already and a lot of obvtown people) but rather scum who is feeling hopeless.
Your push on us is ignoring how Androids probably would not have been lynched if we were scum
You are in survival mode.

so this reads like OMGUS/trying to defuse pressure by discrediting us

CO Ircher uses professional terminology. CO SirCakez, would you be willing to swap him for Hawke?
Give it some thought. Hawke can grant +10% to all of your units.

what does this mean?

SC

[Flavortown]

VOTE: Femm Block

[The Searchers]

Confirmed Town

(From my perspective) (98%-100% Confidence)
The Searchers (100%): Role PM

John Cena (+98%): They claimed neutral 3rd party (to some extent) and one head is suicidal. I don't see that claim coming from scum. Now that DRK won, the claim seems even more real. This slot is an instant lynch though if they don't die like they said, but I'm very confident John Cena is telling the truth here.

Likely Town

(85%-97% Confidence)
Sword of Damocles

Imperium

(+88%): This is like 99% based off of the claim and mod-confirmation that the ability was used. I just don't see that ability being used by scum. Imperium flaked Day 2. Don't really have any comments about them Day 3.

Leaning Town

(60%-84% Confidence)
Black Hole Defection (+60%): I've liked their general reads and approach this game. I honestly haven't been trying too hard to read this slot, so there is the possibility I've more or less been pocketed by them.

Neutral Town

(31%-59% Confidence; Mixed Read or Diffident Read)
Check and Checkmate

Blake X Yang

(+47%): I'm a bit paranoid of this slot at the moment especially after the Mikoto and Kuroko flip, but I'm willing to slot it as town for reviving Cappy over the night. (Revival does not at all seem like a scum ability tbh. Then again, this game is "lolbalance".)

Flavortown (+43%): In all honesty, I think everything Flavor Leaf has done here is more indicative of town!him than scum!him. I still find Flavortown's self-vote and vote on us day 2 really suspicious, but I think the way they've reacted to their wagon is very town-indicative for him. Granted, I don't have extensive meta knowledge of him (at least not that I remember well.)

Cappy (+40%): Honestly, it's kinda hard to get a read on this slot right now. I would like more participation from them in general.

Feminist Blocc (+39%): While I liked their approach to us early game, I can't really say much one way or the other for their more recent posts. I also have not taken the time to parse and fully understand the claim; for that matter, the claim neither inclines me towards town nor scum. Also, I did say that I wasn't really gonna reconsider this slot til LyLo, but I've rethought about that, and I don't think I'm quite that willing to defend them that far. I think if there is one slot I've been wrong on all game, it's likely this one. (Aside from the ones that I've already been wrong on and flipped, but I digress.)

GeorgeBailey (+35%): Has seemed rather survivalistic all game and doesn't appear to be very engaged with the game. Their role claim was somewhat +town equity, but doesn't erase everything else they've done this game. That being said, Foxy's actions towards the slot makes me reevaluate my read here; maybe it's possible, but it didn't feel like a bussing attempt.

Null

(0%-30% Confidence; No/Very Weak Read)
Latias and Latios (-25%): Their day 1 was okay for my tastes. For the most parts, my read there was kind of "playing the odds" (i.e.: odds in favor of them being town) combined with the fact that I've noticed they sort of have a tendency to be scumread easily. Thus, I was comfortable giving them a decent townread at the beginning of the game and throughout day 1. That being said, their absence day 2 combined with a small PoE pool makes them suspicious once more.

Neutral Scum

(31%-59% Confidence; Mixed Read or Diffident Read)
Fahrenheit (-35%): Despite them claiming to have been poisoned (very plausible) and being perpetually roleblocked (not very confirmable I should note), I don't think that makes them more likely to be town. At the same time, I still have yet to see any really good contributions from them. I should also add that the fact both are good at scum doesn't help their case. I can totally see why a (town) player would refuse to claim poisoning them.

Leaning Scum

(60%-75% Confidence)

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Likely Scum

(76%-100% Confidence)

Spoiler: How to read this reads list

Players are placed in different sections based on my confidence in the read expressed as a percentage. A positive percentage indicates that I leans towards town on a player whereas a negative percentage indicates I lean towards scum on a player. Please note that the Null section contains both townreads and scumreads, and you must look a the sign of the percentage in parenthesis to determine which way I lean.

Confidence ratings are rough estimates (and somewhat arbitrary) and are relative to one another. In addition, they tend to be scored on a quadratic scale versus a linear scale; in other words, the difference between 0% and 30% tends to be less than the difference between 30% and 60%.

Disclaimer: These reads reflect my reads and not necessarily those of my hydra partner (although many are similar).

Agh, I got too many people in my townreads pile. That implies someone is doing a good job of playing scum as while Latias and Latios and Fahrenheit seem like a plausible scum team, it's not one I'm at all highly confident in. Actually now that I look at it, I do think Feminist Blocc's claim may be the most likely to be scum out of all the claims given so far. Still like I said, I haven't really parsed that claim fully yet, so I'm not putting too much stock into it (for or against) right now.
~Ircher

[Latias and Latios]

I think that's generally a scum argument b/c it doesn't give any insight into your thought process and seems like it's trying to build a consensus against me

VOTE: Searchers

-Latias

I don't know what you're looking for here
You were absent end of day 2 when scum was being wagoned
Gamma is playing like he did in Doubles
You are in my (already small) POE pool
Your posts today don't look like excited town (which town should be as we have half the scumteam dead already and a lot of obvtown people) but rather scum who is feeling hopeless.
Your push on us is ignoring how Androids probably would not have been lynched if we were scum
You are in survival mode.

so this reads like OMGUS/trying to defuse pressure by discrediting us

I was absent at EoD because I was on V/LA, which everyone is conveniently ignoring
You're saying I'm scum because PoE then Ircher is putting Cappy who he cannot say anything good about at +40% and me who he had an early townread on -25%
And I'm sorry for not being excited on a day when half the game came out of the gate calling me scum for reasons not related to the game?
You can't argue that a scum lynch couldn't have happened without you when wagons were w/w
And yeah I'm in survival mode, again, because half the game started today calling me scum for ??? reasons

By the way, I was pushing on you because you never actually explained any of this you just said our ISO sucked

-Latias

[The Searchers]

L&L, reads? Who do yoo think is the scumteam.

Tbf, Cappy is a complicated read. First we have the post restriction. We also have Silver Bullet dying. Finally, I haven't seen anything that makes me think they're scum. My read there is very little about their play this game and more about external factors like claims and mechanical "clears".
~Ircher

[The Searchers]

Oh I did recall that one of your heads was possibly V/LA EoD2, but I didn't recall that both of you were. That's why I still find it a bit suspect even with your head being V/LA.
~Ircher

[Latias and Latios]

As far as I know Gamma has not logged into this account since mid-D2 so

-Latias

[Latias and Latios]

L&L, reads? Who do yoo think is the scumteam.

Tbf, Cappy is a complicated read. First we have the post restriction. We also have Silver Bullet dying. Finally, I haven't seen anything that makes me think they're scum. My read there is very little about their play this game and more about external factors like claims and mechanical "clears".
~Ircher

You/Fahren/GB/maybe Flavortown and Cappy is my current PoE, without having reread over either of the flipped scum yet

-Latias

[Flavor Leaf]

Well, you’re wrong or scum.

Femm Block is scum.

[Latias and Latios]

appreciated

-latias

[Fahrenheit]

Fahrenheit (-35%): Despite them claiming to have been poisoned (very plausible) and being perpetually roleblocked (not very confirmable I should note), I don't think that makes them more likely to be town. At the same time, I still have yet to see any really good contributions from them. I should also add that the fact both are good at scum doesn't help their case. I can totally see why a (town) player would refuse to claim poisoning them.

I still think you're town, but this is a frustratingly terrible read.

- E

[Fahrenheit]

Also, after reflecting, Key and I agree John Cena is almost mechanically confirmed town.

[John Cena]

Maybe a good time to mention then that I'm the one that both poisoned Key and perma-roleblocked you then?

But the "perma-roleblock" only lasts until I die which is still the end of this dayphase In practical terms it's just a loud roleblock

I think this is 1/4 of the mech things I need to claim today lol

Don't really get why you thought the poison shot was scum when poison shots were available in the store and it's not really impossible to sort out who has how much money

[Flavortown]

Yeah, good time to claim it.

Still think Fahrenheit is town.

Guys, can you just trust me for this day phase? I came into this game effectively like a replacement and am coming from almost an outside perspective.

I really really believe that Femm Block is scum.

Please sheep me on this one?

[Flavortown]

Femm Block and GB are the scum team.

[Flavortown]

And Femm Block flipping scum incriminates GB, not the other way around.

[Flavortown]

Also, scum have a tendency to true claim their roles when they have roles like Femm Block’s because it coming out late looks scummy, it coming out earlier is a “see this is town, I’m claiming something potentially anti town!”

Titus did the same thing in Boon There Done That with Handsy Renegade claim.

[Fahrenheit]

Don't really get why you thought the poison shot was scum

Because poisoning a strong player who just subbed in is generally pro-scum...

honestly, if we don't earn enough to live the poison from events today, i'm going to just ask to be lynched. i'm not playing this game without Key.

[Feminist Blocc]

the post where i explained why we as scum would've had to be braindead to use this role on pine because he was a lover and therefore he would still flip if his lover was vigged? as opposed to using it on ANY non-lover scumbuddy who then wouldn't have flipped? ok. carry on the blind tunnel.

-D

[The Searchers]

Explain the link from Feminist Blocc to GeorgeBailey please.
~Ircher

pedit: You didn't do much day 2 despite being in the game for awhile. Seems like a sensible poison target to me. (Unlike the Mikoto and Kuroko vig shot...)
~Ircher