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Blatant Scum · Post Post #1250 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2020 5:59 am

In post 1247, HoldenGolden wrote:Is your townread on votato based on more than the claim (IE his content?)

Negative.

HoldenGolden · Post Post #1251 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2020 6:09 am

In post 1209, farside22 wrote:Nah that seems a bit of a stretch. I am pushing my scum reads. How can some predict and direct flow?
I never heard that term before.

I've done it before as scum where I publically defended who I thought was cop (turns out I was right) while pushing a mislynch so that town, realizing they are wrong, would follow me.

HoldenGolden · Post Post #1252 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2020 6:24 am

I can see the townie motivation of making people inquire about your reads. Specially when the game has stalled a bit. My bigger issue concerning it though his how much he is self aware of his meta which muddies the true intentions of it more.

Farside, I dont think the read is a stretch even though I don't agree with JJs interpretation. Though, the best way to evaluate it is to play his game to see what his actual reasonings are.

So JJ:
-Is there any part of your votato read that is based on content that you omitted in 1203?
-since that is a half read requesting and they do correlate, I want to hear your PP read.

HoldenGolden · Post Post #1253 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2020 6:25 am

In post 1250, Blatant Scum wrote:
In post 1247, HoldenGolden wrote:Is your townread on votato based on more than the claim (IE his content?)
Negative.

I saw 1203, just curious to see if there is more content focus since for JJ it was his reaction to being forced to claim.

If there are content related townread on him I want to hear them.

ISO · Post Post #1254 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2020 8:59 am

In post 1207, jjh927 wrote:
In post 690, votato wrote:fine. I'm a town night 1-3 combined janitor-doctor watcher.
In post 788, votato wrote:uh not exactly sure. From what I gather on the wiki, the janitor would be a scum role. From that plus my role PM I guess my role has something to do with being anti-janitor? I'm not exactly sure how it would work. sorry. i think the watcher ability only activates if im successful, if that helps.

i think being useless is probably correlated with being scum. You all seem to know BS much better than I, and if hes a really good player, then theres probably a method somewhere in the apparent madness. I guess this sort of confusion is why I want to wait before jumping to any conclusions about anyone. ironically, this uncertainty makes me a bit useless, so i guess im confirmed scum.

Yeah I don't see what you do in this claim. I'm pretty sure it's bullshit given my own role, so.
VOTE: Votato

ISO · Post Post #1255 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2020 9:00 am

In post 1215, Blatant Scum wrote:
April Ludgate - has janitor ability

If I wasn't voting votato this is where I'd probably vote tho.

Clover Ebi · Post Post #1256 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2020 9:50 am

Strongly disagree.

Dr Easy Bake · Post Post #1257 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2020 11:40 am

Bingle · Post Post #1258 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2020 1:16 pm

In post 1246, HoldenGolden wrote:Welcome to the university of Holden. Your online zoom assignment today is to read mine and Votatos iso. This is worth 75% of your grade.

Good luck with that.

Also, jj looks town. Not picking up the beats he's laying, but that's not particularly worrisome at this point.

jj/farside is aggressively boring as far as fights go.

ISO · Post Post #1259 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2020 1:29 pm

He's playing badly if he's town.

farside22 · Post Post #1260 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2020 2:25 pm

In post 1259, PenguinPower wrote:He's playing badly if he's town.

Agreed.

Mastina added to scum list.

Birds and the Boys · Post Post #1261 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2020 4:26 pm

I don't see why people have problems with the janitor claim. Scum wouldn't just openly claim that.

-bitmap

April Ludgate · Post Post #1262 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2020 9:02 pm

We literally can confirm the role, votato votes are scummy.

And if a role block comes in somewhere then it’s confirmed roleblock and we can lynch votato tomorrow.

April Ludgate · Post Post #1263 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2020 9:05 pm

Birds and Blatant are the main wagons right now, and they’re both defending votato. I think that’s indicative of them all being town wagons.

April Ludgate · Post Post #1264 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2020 9:07 pm

Which means Mistanna is probably scum on Votato (she was already on before voting), then there’s probably 1 on Birds, 1 on BS, and 1 off.

I don’t expect that to be completely correct, but it’s a visual for thought. Obviously, 1 can switch and there can be like 2 on one of the wagons, but I don’t there 3 scum are likely to be on the same wagon here, if that makes sense.

April Ludgate · Post Post #1265 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2020 9:12 pm

Dunnstral, Dr Easy Bake, Chemist, or Creature probably has scum in it.

Let’s go one of them.

Dunnstral has 2 and is true 4th wagon, and I like Bingle for town right now, so I’ll vote there.

VOTE: Dunnstral

Clover Ebi · Post Post #1266 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2020 9:13 pm

Is it possible to get a Dr Easy Bake wagon going?
VOTE: Dr Easy Bake

April Ludgate · Post Post #1267 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2020 9:14 pm

In post 1263, April Ludgate wrote:Birds and Blatant are the main wagons right now, and they’re both defending votato. I think that’s indicative of them all being town wagons.

This is in conjunction with me just generally feeling like they’re both town.

Votato could be scum still, though

April Ludgate · Post Post #1268 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2020 9:16 pm

In post 988, Dr Easy Bake wrote:Anyway, this is what I got right now

jj town
conspire scum
April lean town
Penguin lean town
clover lean scum
Blatant Scum scum
votaytoh lean scum
calvin lean town, failed mason claim imo, but not scum indicative necessarily.

Hmm, their 3 scum reads I don’t like too much, but I can’t say it’s that much different from the rest of the game.

I don’t personally think he’s scum right now, but hasn’t really done enough for me to say for sure. I’d rather go Dunn today.

Dunnstral · Post Post #1269 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2020 9:32 pm

In post 1265, April Ludgate wrote:Dunnstral, Dr Easy Bake, Chemist, or Creature probably has scum in it.

Based on what?

Dr Easy Bake · Post Post #1270 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2020 9:36 pm

Lol where’s that coming from Clever? Or should I say, not so?

Calvin ānd Hobbes · Post Post #1271 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 1:14 am

Okay, I'm back!
@DEB: "Failed Mason claim"? Did you not think it was obviously fake? What was the fail?

-Calvin

Creature · Post Post #1272 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 1:38 am

In post 1269, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1265, April Ludgate wrote:Dunnstral, Dr Easy Bake, Chemist, or Creature probably has scum in it.
Based on what?

RNG

jjh927 · Post Post #1273 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 1:40 am

In post 1252, HoldenGolden wrote:I can see the townie motivation of making people inquire about your reads. Specially when the game has stalled a bit. My bigger issue concerning it though his how much he is self aware of his meta which muddies the true intentions of it more.

Farside, I dont think the read is a stretch even though I don't agree with JJs interpretation. Though, the best way to evaluate it is to play his game to see what his actual reasonings are.

So JJ:
-Is there any part of your votato read that is based on content that you omitted in 1203?
-since that is a half read requesting and they do correlate, I want to hear your PP read.

My votato read is pretty much entirely based on the claim. If I'm in a position where I'm allowed to be lazy on reads because of something like that, then I'm gonna be lazy on reads.

PP has done too many things I disagree with to go in my town pile but honestly I don't think I want to lynch there on reflection

jjh927 · Post Post #1274 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 1:41 am

In post 1254, mastina wrote:
In post 1207, jjh927 wrote:
In post 690, votato wrote:fine. I'm a town night 1-3 combined janitor-doctor watcher.
In post 788, votato wrote:uh not exactly sure. From what I gather on the wiki, the janitor would be a scum role. From that plus my role PM I guess my role has something to do with being anti-janitor? I'm not exactly sure how it would work. sorry. i think the watcher ability only activates if im successful, if that helps.

i think being useless is probably correlated with being scum. You all seem to know BS much better than I, and if hes a really good player, then theres probably a method somewhere in the apparent madness. I guess this sort of confusion is why I want to wait before jumping to any conclusions about anyone. ironically, this uncertainty makes me a bit useless, so i guess im confirmed scum.
Yeah I don't see what you do in this claim. I'm pretty sure it's bullshit given my own role, so.
VOTE: Votato

It's not bullshit. How and why does anyone come up with this as a claim if they didn't get it as their role PM?