On the Flying Scumsman (Abandoned)

[Sword of Damocles]

honestly, if we don't earn enough to live the poison from events today, i'm going to just ask to be lynched. i'm not playing this game without Key.

You can still talk to her if she's dead.

-Smart

[Fahrenheit]

honestly, if we don't earn enough to live the poison from events today, i'm going to just ask to be lynched. i'm not playing this game without Key.

You can still talk to her if she's dead.

-Smart

Oh, is this true? Then okay, I'll retract that.

Also, does this mean scum's only KP was literally Despair Night? DRK won and left, Mikoto presumably vigged Foxy, John Cena donkey poisoned Key, and somebody claimed the shot on Mikoto? That feels like a lot of town KP and not a lot of scum doing anything...

[Sword of Damocles]

If a head of a hydra were to die, they may communiate with their alive partner

-Smart

[Fahrenheit]

I'm going to full claim because I believe we should be mass claiming and regardless, Key and I will most likely be too busy to do the events to make her live. You poisoned a role that can guilty scum and gets more powerful with less alive, so congrats.

Key targets 1 head during the day, and that head's actions are publicly broadcasted after the following night phase (ie if we target somebody d3, their n3 actions are publicly given). I am a full hydra rolestopper.

Are both of these confirmable? Yes to the first, and somewhat to the second. I rolestopped Searchers last night. Androids flipped half roleblocker half vigi that has to be given to town, and Foxy flipped roleblocker. Does a scum team with our (mostly) provable roles make sense with the flipped scum roles? Not really at all. Did Krazy poison a very powerful town investigative (it is extra good because the action is public, so it doesn't revolve on us living to give results) for no good reason? Yes. Is this part of why you claim roles and don't randomly use KP as town? Yes.

[Flavortown]

I think i'm 180ing my SR on Searchers from today's flip. Their wagon seemed to be a counter wagon with

Androids

and

Kuroko

on it, with Androids switching for survivability.

I’m driving so sorry if nothing in that claim post makes sense

Pedit:

VOTE: Searchers

Yes this hydra experiment is like not going super well Titus and I have very different reads

I’m driving so sorry if nothing in that claim post makes sense

Pedit:

VOTE: Searchers

Yes this hydra experiment is like not going super well Titus and I have very different reads

Absolutely no clue who Searcher hydra is, but I see this is Gobb and Titus.

VOTE: Searchers

Book em, people. I’ve decided.

And honestly, yeah this looks really sus so close together.

VOTE: FlavorTown

Key has a day action that is publicly confirmable, and we think it could be beneficial with only two scum alive if we mass claimed. It gets even better with 1 scum alive, so if somebody could heal her it would be swell. My head has a protective, as claimed, but I am as the flavor indicates semi permanently roleblocked now. I agree, more people should discuss mass claiming.

I’m down to mass claim.

This is town points for Eddie as well.

I quoted the George one because I have a theory.

My theory is scumFemm posted in a scum thread for GB to vote me to put me to L-1 when I had a lot of votes. He went back and made sure to find a reason to vote, albeit weak and irrelevant.

So I actually do think it is scum indicative of GB.

Femm Block is scum. Mark my words.

[The Searchers]

How is John Cena supposed to be able to know your roles in advance? What did you do Day 2 that makes you a poor poison (read: delayed vig) shot? Also, I'd like to point out that the game is "lolbalance" and that in a game with lot of killing power, rolestopper is pretty useful. The investigative appears to be a tracking investigative (specifically follower-esque) and while it being public is +town value, it has a lot of utility for scum as well. Also, this may be a dumb question (don't the exact time y'all replaced), but did your slot do nothing Night 1 and why?
~Ircher

[Flavortown]

Scum GB stated “that’s L-1” and the push he made looks like a partner told him to vote me there, which he read, but the post was likely made prior to me getting unvoted.

I also just modded a game where I thought GB was pretty townie

[The Searchers]

Flavortown, if you are wrong about Feminist Blocc, what is your solve then? And how confident are you here (on a 0%-100% scale) about Feminist Blocc's alignment?
~Ircher

pedit: I do admit the L-1 comment was a bit out of place.
~Ircher

[Fahrenheit]

My slot did not act d1/,n1 presumably because they were AFK, and d2 because Key and I forgot. Rolestopper Searchers n2. We subbed in lateish d2.

There's no way he could have known, randomly using vigi roles in role madness is bad... but no point discussing this because I think he's extremely likely to be town and it has no bearing on his alignment.

[Flavortown]

Flavortown, if you are wrong about Feminist Blocc, what is your solve then? And how confident are you here (on a 0%-100% scale) about Feminist Blocc's alignment?
~Ircher

pedit: I do admit the L-1 comment was a bit out of place.
~Ircher

98%.

If I’m wrong, probably L and L or Pops hydra.

And I really don’t think it’s either of them.

[Flavortown]

Oh wait, if I’m wrong on Femm, then it’s probably Blake or Cappy, not L and L or Pops.

I just think L and L are town.

I also think it’s WAY too convenient that Femm Block neighborized Pine Night 1. Thats way too sailor of a scum cloaking device and in this type of game makes sense.

Pine’s role also makes sense to have a partner who has something like thatz

[Feminist Blocc]

the post where i explained why we as scum would've had to be braindead to use this role on pine because he was a lover and therefore he would still flip if his lover was vigged? as opposed to using it on ANY non-lover scumbuddy who then wouldn't have flipped? ok. carry on the blind tunnel.

-D

[Flavortown]

Simple solution, just target the other one Night 2.

Your reactions to the plan of targeting me is net positive towards scum as well

[Feminist Blocc]

we... targeted Chemist... on Night 2...

-D

[Latias and Latios]

FB, if you targeted a solo head/Gamma tonight and they were to take the kill on someone who isn't you would it fail?

-Latias

[Feminist Blocc]

No, kidnapping resolves after kills.

-D

[Flavortown]

we... targeted Chemist... on Night 2...

-D

So...?

[Feminist Blocc]

Simple solution, just target the other one Night 2.

Your reactions to the plan of targeting me is net positive towards scum as well

we... targeted Chemist... on Night 2...

-D

leaf boy: makes a baseless assumption
femmblocc: explains why that is wrong
leaf boy: "so...?"

-D

[Isis]

CO Blake's explanation of her kill once again rings to me like a confident construction of actions she thinks she can get away with.

I'm very curious what exactly you mean by this.

-Blake

It's part of a pattern from this whole battle. You have been fighting like Tabitha this battle: front and center, expecting to never perish and having poor prospects if that were to happen, and trying to conquer things on your own. You are usually far more like Forsythe, providing support to everybody, and highly likely to win even if you should die.
I do not think you kill Tag Team Mikoto and Kuroko here in Orange Star service. You said you had an individual hangup with them. But you always seem to view the whole battlefield, corner to corner, and will frequently emphasize that it's important to win entire battles, not skirmishes.
Why would you kill them in order to win this whole battle? If you die, your individual hangup won't matter. And you are always very aware you may die when you serve with Orange Star. If you live, you could have battled him cooperatively today to benefit us. You agreed with doubts that CO Kuroko was Black Hole late day 2, and then when night 2 started you gained a new partner who will likely be much more active and could have helped over any hangups.
With Orange Star, I would expect you to kill someone that it would help the whole battle to have dead. An example would be Tag Team Latios and Latias, who I personally would never harm but who you weren't fond of and is now proving to be awkward for our formation because being Absent With Leave while Black Hole was attacked is hard to interpret. Or you would have killed many people I would never kill, with a reason it would help us all I might personally be surprised with.
When I saw CO Farkran dead I felt like I had heard an offkey note in Forsythe's theme.

[Black Hole Defection]

CO Blake's explanation of her kill once again rings to me like a confident construction of actions she thinks she can get away with.

I'm very curious what exactly you mean by this.

-Blake

It's part of a pattern from this whole battle. You have been fighting like Tabitha this battle: front and center, expecting to never perish and having poor prospects if that were to happen, and trying to conquer things on your own. You are usually far more like Forsythe, providing support to everybody, and highly likely to win even if you should die.
I do not think you kill Tag Team Mikoto and Kuroko here in Orange Star service. You said you had an individual hangup with them. But you always seem to view the whole battlefield, corner to corner, and will frequently emphasize that it's important to win entire battles, not skirmishes.
Why would you kill them in order to win this whole battle? If you die, your individual hangup won't matter. And you are always very aware you may die when you serve with Orange Star. If you live, you could have battled him cooperatively today to benefit us. You agreed with doubts that CO Kuroko was Black Hole late day 2, and then when night 2 started you gained a new partner who will likely be much more active and could have helped over any hangups.
With Orange Star, I would expect you to kill someone that it would help the whole battle to have dead. An example would be Tag Team Latios and Latias, who I personally would never harm but who you weren't fond of and is now proving to be awkward for our formation because being Absent With Leave while Black Hole was attacked is hard to interpret. Or you would have killed many people I would never kill, with a reason it would help us all I might personally be surprised with.
When I saw CO Farkran dead I felt like I had heard an offkey note in Forsythe's theme.

[Black Hole Defection]

(Revival does not at all seem like a scum ability tbh. Then again, this game is "lolbalance".)

The revival CO Power is from CO Firebringer.
But Superb Subtlety stated during pregame that they wanted each CO Power to feel exciting, but would make little effort to make them all work fairly together as a group, so this is a more correct way to be thinking than those that are imagining a "quota" on the kinds of abilities on each side.

[Check and Checkmate]

CO Blake's explanation of her kill once again rings to me like a confident construction of actions she thinks she can get away with.

I'm very curious what exactly you mean by this.

-Blake

It's part of a pattern from this whole battle. You have been fighting like Tabitha this battle: front and center, expecting to never perish and having poor prospects if that were to happen, and trying to conquer things on your own. You are usually far more like Forsythe, providing support to everybody, and highly likely to win even if you should die.
I do not think you kill Tag Team Mikoto and Kuroko here in Orange Star service. You said you had an individual hangup with them. But you always seem to view the whole battlefield, corner to corner, and will frequently emphasize that it's important to win entire battles, not skirmishes.
Why would you kill them in order to win this whole battle? If you die, your individual hangup won't matter. And you are always very aware you may die when you serve with Orange Star. If you live, you could have battled him cooperatively today to benefit us. You agreed with doubts that CO Kuroko was Black Hole late day 2, and then when night 2 started you gained a new partner who will likely be much more active and could have helped over any hangups.
With Orange Star, I would expect you to kill someone that it would help the whole battle to have dead. An example would be Tag Team Latios and Latias, who I personally would never harm but who you weren't fond of and is now proving to be awkward for our formation because being Absent With Leave while Black Hole was attacked is hard to interpret. Or you would have killed many people I would never kill, with a reason it would help us all I might personally be surprised with.
When I saw CO Farkran dead I felt like I had heard an offkey note in Forsythe's theme.

I would direct you towards Starry Night.

I had a game-long scumread on a town Bitmap, and I could never get over that read despite having correct scumreads on two scum elsewhere. When one of my other scumreads were proven correct, I could no longer see Bitmap as town without seeing the flip myself, and my play drastically shifted once it was achieved.

The exact same scenario is happening here, except the trigger is realizing that exactly two slots were criticizing my VCA findings, and the one I specifically was scumreading for that exact reason flipped scum. When the other slot is one I'm predisposed to reading as scum, it's more productive to break that tunnel entirely so I can move on rather than look elsewhere for kills.

Keep in mind that I approached the night phase fully believing that my revive would be blocked. I had no way of knowing that I could rely on that action to help keep the scumreads at bay.

-Blake

[Black Hole Defection]

CO Ircher uses professional terminology. CO SirCakez, would you be willing to swap him for Hawke?
Give it some thought. Hawke can grant +10% to all of your units.

what does this mean?

SC

After trading, you will form Tag Team Vanilla and Chocolate instead of Tag Team Searchers. You will share command of one force, and during his turns he will grant all of your units +10%. He is boring and straightforward like that. I do not know what bonus you will grant, but I am guessing +50% to Landers, T-Copters, and APCs. My synergy percentage with Hawke is actually only 110%, I bet you will match him as high as 130% because in some ways your styles are similar. Please ignore his current truancy and accept my offer.

[Black Hole Defection]

CO Blake's explanation of her kill once again rings to me like a confident construction of actions she thinks she can get away with.

I'm very curious what exactly you mean by this.

-Blake

It's part of a pattern from this whole battle. You have been fighting like Tabitha this battle: front and center, expecting to never perish and having poor prospects if that were to happen, and trying to conquer things on your own. You are usually far more like Forsythe, providing support to everybody, and highly likely to win even if you should die.
I do not think you kill Tag Team Mikoto and Kuroko here in Orange Star service. You said you had an individual hangup with them. But you always seem to view the whole battlefield, corner to corner, and will frequently emphasize that it's important to win entire battles, not skirmishes.
Why would you kill them in order to win this whole battle? If you die, your individual hangup won't matter. And you are always very aware you may die when you serve with Orange Star. If you live, you could have battled him cooperatively today to benefit us. You agreed with doubts that CO Kuroko was Black Hole late day 2, and then when night 2 started you gained a new partner who will likely be much more active and could have helped over any hangups.
With Orange Star, I would expect you to kill someone that it would help the whole battle to have dead. An example would be Tag Team Latios and Latias, who I personally would never harm but who you weren't fond of and is now proving to be awkward for our formation because being Absent With Leave while Black Hole was attacked is hard to interpret. Or you would have killed many people I would never kill, with a reason it would help us all I might personally be surprised with.
When I saw CO Farkran dead I felt like I had heard an offkey note in Forsythe's theme.

I would direct you towards Starry Night.

I had a game-long scumread on a town Bitmap, and I could never get over that read despite having correct scumreads on two scum elsewhere. When one of my other scumreads were proven correct, I could no longer see Bitmap as town without seeing the flip myself, and my play drastically shifted once it was achieved.

The exact same scenario is happening here, except the trigger is realizing that exactly two slots were criticizing my VCA findings, and the one I specifically was scumreading for that exact reason flipped scum. When the other slot is one I'm predisposed to reading as scum, it's more productive to break that tunnel entirely so I can move on rather than look elsewhere for kills.

Keep in mind that I approached the night phase fully believing that my revive would be blocked. I had no way of knowing that I could rely on that action to help keep the scumreads at bay.

-Blake

Why were you expecting to be blocked rather than killed?

[Check and Checkmate]

Why would I be killed?

-Blake