Micro 935 | Chain of Command | Game Over!

[GeorgeBailey]

VC 2.01

by: utak3r

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Lynching

With 7 votes in play, it takes 4 to lynch

Drew-Sta

(2): DoctorPepper, Datisi

Not Voting

(5): OkaPoka, Iconeum, Euphony, Drew-Sta, Alduskkel

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-05-15 19:41:33)

V/LAs

: Iconeum has a standard weekend VLA

"GeorgeBailey" - GeorgeBailey

[Iconeum]

just a random thought here

if the last commander is town

lynching him loses the game
but having him claim also loses the game

how the fuck do we work around that wrt to lynches?

[OkaPoka]

don't acknowledge its existence and play this mountainous

scum can claim commander as well and if your a town commander welllllllllllllllllllllllll

[OkaPoka]

we want to minimize the wagon swapping today, hopefully d1 was productive enough to catch everyone

[OkaPoka]

weirdly enough lolhammering might be 'optimal' xd

[Euphony]

@datisi

actually, aldus!scum -> lynch drew
and aldus!town -> lynch euphony

Why? What are the associations there?

Ico?

÷7/ Hectic

[Euphony]

Drew, people were active near deadline, so we had enough time to switch wagons if necessary. Why'd you go from being very cautious/reserved with your vote for most of the day phase to hammering without hearing a claim?

Could you address this, Drew? If you're town, I want you to explain what was going through your mind and why you just went for it. Was it just lol impulse, did you think Quentin wasn't a PR/Officer for whatever reason, did you change your mind and think he could be scum... etc. Try and explain your thought process please.

₩>>> Hectic

[Iconeum]

drew's acceptance of it's lynch is odd

[Iconeum]

@datisi

actually, aldus!scum -> lynch drew
and aldus!town -> lynch euphony

Why? What are the associations there?

Ico?

÷7/ Hectic

poe and the QQ lynch

[Euphony]

don't acknowledge its existence and play this mountainous

scum can claim commander as well and if your a town commander welllllllllllllllllllllllll

^This.

Also, a note:
If we run up someone and they claim commander, we should always be assuming they're either scum fakeclaiming to get a counterclaim, or legitimately the scum commander, and they should be hammered and discussion beyind that point is not a good idea. There's no point assuming they're town commander since it's a loss either way in that scenario.

><>@÷ Hectic

[Euphony]

@datisi

actually, aldus!scum -> lynch drew
and aldus!town -> lynch euphony

Why? What are the associations there?

Ico?

÷7/ Hectic

poe and the QQ lynch

I mean, elaborate on why aldu!scum means Drew, and town means us.

#€% Hectic

[Iconeum]

aldus i want updated reads from you

IIRC your scumreads were DP/me/QQ

QQ was town
DP and me were the only ones off lynch

if you think drew is still town and dats is scum, why aren't you pushing this since datisi is pushing your townread?

[Iconeum]

if everyone feels like aldus fits in most scumteams, why isn't he taking any heat?

[Iconeum]

drew why the early claim

[OkaPoka]

tbh not much for ald to take heat from since he's posted the least really ~which is +scumpoints but contributes to my weird feeling of meh on him, whereas other slots are just more polarizing ig

[Iconeum]

VOTE: aldus

[Iconeum]

i think i would sooner bet for aldus>drew rather than aldus>euph but

why are you voting drew over aldus?

[Drew-Sta]

normally id say maybe drew sta is 2000 iq'ing this by playing so anti survivalist that he is scum through reverse psychology but i appear to be the only one townreading him so /shrug

I might have balls the size of church bells, but from a game play mentality, that's too far out there even for me to pull off.

Drew, people were active near deadline, so we had enough time to switch wagons if necessary. Why'd you go from being very cautious/reserved with your vote for most of the day phase to hammering without hearing a claim?

Could you address this, Drew? If you're town, I want you to explain what was going through your mind and why you just went for it. Was it just lol impulse, did you think Quentin wasn't a PR/Officer for whatever reason, did you change your mind and think he could be scum... etc. Try and explain your thought process please.

₩>>> Hectic

I'll try to explain.

1. I could see the wagon shifting back to me. Kanna moving back on to me and I think even you, I just went 'Fuck this.' I know I'm town, I'd rather take my chances at that point to get through and be of use at end game than let myself get lynched.
2. My style generally gets me lynched D1 or NK'd early. The reason is because I actually am cautious and I think that makes scum quite nervous. I won't say I'm the best scum hunter, but I do tend to be dogmatic if I know I'm right. I have found that usually gets me killed quickly.
3. There was 19 hours left. I had a full day of meetings on the Monday (AU time) and no chance to check in often. I didn't want to risk the lynch moving onto me without a chance to stop it.
4. This is the childishness of my choice - I don't think I've hammered anyone before (from memory). I wanted to do it. Cause, why the fuck not?

It seemed clear to me there weren't obv scum. I genuinely think Dr is. I misread Kanna but genuinely believed they were scum. I

think

Aldus can be. I didn't understand QQ. I shrugged and went 'Why the fuck not.'

Sometimes even cautious people get a rush of blood to the head.

drew's acceptance of it's lynch is odd

I'm honestly dead in the scheme of the game and even if I survive to Lylo, my word would not be able to help town given how I flip flopped and then hammered. I look way too suspicious. Given I betrayed my own play style, I've lost a bit of passion in how I'm playing this particular game so am not overly fussed if I get lynched or not.

The best thing that can happen is for town to drag out the day and pressure other players to see if they slip as scum. If they do, lynch them, let me be NK'd and you'll likely win at 4v1.

if everyone feels like aldus fits in most scumteams, why isn't he taking any heat?

I'm happy to. I will Iso them tmr and articulate my argument better. VOTE: Aldus

drew why the early claim

Why not?

[Datisi]

we want to minimize the wagon swapping today, hopefully d1 was productive enough to catch everyone

what do you mean by "minimize wagon swapping"?

~

i think i would sooner bet for aldus>drew rather than aldus>euph but

why are you voting drew over aldus?

this post just means that i think drew is scummier than euph. given the choice of aldus>drew and aldus>euph i would sooner bet on the former. as a whole i want to lynch drew first. though this is pending a reread so it might change.

~

If they do, lynch them, let me be NK'd and you'll likely win at 4v1.

drew why the early claim

Why not?

...

drew, i'm sure you have a brain. please turn it on. if the commander is town (which is statistically more likely), scum is gonna either hunt him with the nightkills or they're gonna pick off any town-protectives left. you've claimed vt for absolute no reason. AND you have people suspecting you. in which world do you ever get nightkilled here?

[Iconeum]

let's flashlynch aldus and work from there

[Datisi]

maybe, i haven't decided yet

[Iconeum]

tbh i don't trust you to decide on anything here

you were wavering thru the entirety of D1, you ended up on what turned out to be a disastrous lynch and i don't even know why you did that exactly

either you scumread aldus or think he makes a ton of sense with your other scumreads, or you don't and then I want you to specifically speak out against lynching aldus.

no more maybe

[Iconeum]

like, we are gonna decide the outcome of this game today by PoE'ing the remaining players

we are gonna make a pool of 2 players that most feel comfortable about containing at least 1 scum so we don't insta lose (and even then we can get unlucky)

if ur town i need you to start making up your mind and if ur scum, you can just stand by and watch us crawl back into this

[Iconeum]

/end inspirational speech

[Iconeum]

also, actual footage of Iconeum leading this game (colourized):

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