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[northsidegal]

Votecount 1.28

Target	Wagon
Cycle Men (4)	Deimos27 (588), Green Crayons (720), humaneatingmonkey (902), Isis (904)
Firebringer (3)	votato (548), Albert B. Rampage (813), Elements (854)
NorwegianboyEE (2)	Looker (456), Alisae (876)
humaneatingmonkey (2)	Cycle Men (897), NorwegianboyEE (916)
votato (1)	Firebringer (840)
Not Voting (0)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2020-05-08 06:42:59).

[Cycle Men]

you claim my theories are incorrect yet that entire page is filled with nothing more than "you're stupid, you're wrong, turn on your brain waa waa"
if they're so demonstrably wrong, demonstrate why and lynch me

[Alisae]

this is not only an incredibly defensive response, its borderline insulting
its just a game, okay?

okay let me rephrase the question
do you genuinely believe that me, monkey, and isis are all cordinating our votes in this thread and that as soon as they get called out on it, monkey and isis switch their votes back to you? Meaning that you think that me, monkey, and isis are scum

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Alisae, why is Mr. Inorganic and Mr. Sheeps-a-lot town?

idunno who ur talking about but I like Cycle Men because as scum this is a push that doesn't really make sense if norwee is town, and if norwee is scum it doesn't make sense to support him on a bad theory, also he would probably be hesistant to considering he is also a lynch and the person being lynched by isis and monkey, so if he flips scum then norwee would probably just get lynched anyways.

Firebringer I don't actually have a read on but ABR is pushing it and at the moment, I think if ABR is scum its likely with Norwee given how ABR is positioning himself in the thread with his reads.

[Isis]

yet you stand strong on the stance that you

have

scumreads, yet you'd lynch a null

You are hosting a yard sale. You have a painting of a lake, a painting of the moon, and a painting of the sunset, they are all pretty old. A professional has appraised the painting of the lake and indicated it is worth 50$. He appraised the painting of the moon and indicated it is worth 5,000$. He has not seen the painting of the sunset yet, but you have an appointment for him to see it on Wednesday.
Only one person comes to your yard sale. She offers you 50$ for your painting of the lake. She isn't interested in buying the painting of the moon. She offers you 70$ for the painting of the sunset. You need 30$ between now and Friday to make rent this month.

You snap sell the painting of the sunset?

[Alisae]

if we're all scum and norwee is town, we don't even need to push norwee
we can just lynch your dumbass.

i mean i also kinda explained why I think its stupid
but sure
you can ignore that

[Alisae]

i believe my arguments have merit, otherwise i wouldnt be making them

okay then you are probably town lmao

[humaneatingmonkey]

I'm talking about Looker's inorganic behavior and POV and GC's serial sheeping and lack of town paranoia. Both of which you find town.

[Cycle Men]

this is not only an incredibly defensive response, its borderline insulting
its just a game, okay?

okay let me rephrase the question
do you genuinely believe that me, monkey, and isis are all cordinating our votes in this thread and that as soon as they get called out on it, monkey and isis switch their votes back to you? Meaning that you think that me, monkey, and isis are scum
.

i considered it a possibility, not necessarily a certainty
my main gripe was with hems post pressuring me to vote that made me reconsider my reads on him and norwee

[Alisae]

I'm talking about Looker's inorganic behavior and POV and GC's serial sheeping and lack of town paranoia. Both of which you find town.

Looker is town because his read on me is likely just coming from town.
He is also asking questions and trying to figure out my motivations.
GC I think is likely town just by positioning but that changes depending on if all of ABR, Norwee, and Isis are town.

[Alisae]

this is not only an incredibly defensive response, its borderline insulting
its just a game, okay?

okay let me rephrase the question
do you genuinely believe that me, monkey, and isis are all cordinating our votes in this thread and that as soon as they get called out on it, monkey and isis switch their votes back to you? Meaning that you think that me, monkey, and isis are scum
.

i considered it a possibility, not necessarily a certainty
my main gripe was with hems post pressuring me to vote that made me reconsider my reads on him and norwee

HE IS PRESSURING YOU TO VOTE BECAUSE WE HAVE 24 HOURS OF THE DAY PHASE LEFT

[Alisae]

Why would you want to extend D1 for as long as possible
I do not understand like what the actual fuck

[humaneatingmonkey]

I want to be clear. I'm not finding Looker, GC, Elements, and NorwEE as hard to sort. I am sorting them as likely scum. But I can be very wrong, and I think a flipped Cycle Men will help me be more right.

The only reason I didn't have Cycle Men as my primary lynch option earlier was the lack of counterwagon during that period. However, I can see merit in Deimos' push against him. But now I see that the paranoia around it is outweighed by the uncertainty Cycle Men will bring me later in the game.

So Cycle Men it is.

[Cycle Men]

oh yeah, we wouldnt want scum to get a night kill

[Cycle Men]

I want to be clear. I'm not finding Looker, GC, Elements, and NorwEE as hard to sort. I am sorting them as likely scum. But I can be very wrong, and I think a flipped Cycle Men will help me be more right.

The only reason I didn't have Cycle Men as my primary lynch option earlier was the lack of counterwagon during that period. However, I can see merit in Deimos' push against him. But now I see that the paranoia around it is outweighed by the uncertainty Cycle Men will bring me later in the game.

So Cycle Men it is.

can i vote you again for this

[Alisae]

ABR GC Isis and Norwee

Norwee scumreads Isis and Isis scumreads Norwee
ABR townreads Norwee and Scumreads Isis and GC
GC scumreads Norwee and townreads Isis

There just has to be scum in one of these 4 people. This just doesn't look like 4 town to me. It can't be 4 town and I feel like this is happening because there is scum in here.

[Alisae]

I want to be clear. I'm not finding Looker, GC, Elements, and NorwEE as hard to sort. I am sorting them as likely scum. But I can be very wrong, and I think a flipped Cycle Men will help me be more right.

The only reason I didn't have Cycle Men as my primary lynch option earlier was the lack of counterwagon during that period. However, I can see merit in Deimos' push against him. But now I see that the paranoia around it is outweighed by the uncertainty Cycle Men will bring me later in the game.

So Cycle Men it is.

okay but Cycle Men is town so just lynch Norwee with me, yeah?

[humaneatingmonkey]

I'm talking about Looker's inorganic behavior and POV and GC's serial sheeping and lack of town paranoia. Both of which you find town.

Looker is town because his read on me is likely just coming from town.
He is also asking questions and trying to figure out my motivations.
GC I think is likely town just by positioning but that changes depending on if all of ABR, Norwee, and Isis are town.

First, you assume Looker is reading you as town. He just comments a meta on you being impossibly aggressive as town. He's been vague about his read on you. If I'm wrong, show me progression on which he think you're town.
Second, GC's positioning makes him town? He's on a wagon with most of his scumreads.

[Green Crayons]

lol that was painful

[humaneatingmonkey]

Alisae, why is Cycle Men town?

[Alisae]

oh yeah, we wouldnt want scum to get a night kill

theres no night kill in the setup
we go into the next day phase with a flip and we can proceed to play the game

also we're rewarding by lynching because we have plenty of lynches and if we actually lynch scum, then we get MORE lynches

like you just have to accept that in Mafia, you have to lynch SOMEBODY. SOMEBODY has to die.

[Alisae]

idunno who ur talking about but I like Cycle Men because as scum this is a push that doesn't really make sense if norwee is town, and if norwee is scum it doesn't make sense to support him on a bad theory, also he would probably be hesistant to considering he is also a lynch and the person being lynched by isis and monkey, so if he flips scum then norwee would probably just get lynched anyways.

CAN
YOU
READ

[Cycle Men]

I want to be clear. I'm not finding Looker, GC, Elements, and NorwEE as hard to sort. I am sorting them as likely scum. But I can be very wrong, and I think a flipped Cycle Men will help me be more right.

The only reason I didn't have Cycle Men as my primary lynch option earlier was the lack of counterwagon during that period. However, I can see merit in Deimos' push against him. But now I see that the paranoia around it is outweighed by the uncertainty Cycle Men will bring me later in the game.

So Cycle Men it is.

you can use the words policy lynch
you want to policy lynch me

[Alisae]

lol that was painful

HELP ME
VOTE NORWEE

[humaneatingmonkey]

I want to be clear. I'm not finding Looker, GC, Elements, and NorwEE as hard to sort. I am sorting them as likely scum. But I can be very wrong, and I think a flipped Cycle Men will help me be more right.

The only reason I didn't have Cycle Men as my primary lynch option earlier was the lack of counterwagon during that period. However, I can see merit in Deimos' push against him. But now I see that the paranoia around it is outweighed by the uncertainty Cycle Men will bring me later in the game.

So Cycle Men it is.

you can use the words policy lynch
you want to policy lynch me

Sure whatever if you wanna frame it that way

[northsidegal]

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