Open 778: Nightless Vanilla [Game Over!]

[northsidegal]

Votecount 1.37

Target	Wagon
Cycle Men (4)	Deimos27 (588), humaneatingmonkey (902), Isis (904), Elements (1152)
Elements (3)	Cycle Men (1002), Alisae (1021), NorwegianboyEE (1101)
Firebringer (2)	votato (548), Albert B. Rampage (813)
NorwegianboyEE (2)	Looker (456), Green Crayons (1024)
votato (1)	Firebringer (840)
Not Voting (0)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2020-05-08 06:42:59).

[Green Crayons]

I don't buy that he finds Ali, Me, and Isis scummy for building a NorwEE wagon, a person he scumreads, when he knows he's town.

I also had a big problem with his sudden shift and read on these players.

Cycle, could you explain that more?

[Cycle Men]

it was something i considered a possibility, that people have slowly morphed into "i was sure this was the scumteam at the time" before i could explain myself

there was one specific post from human that absolutely blocked any chance of him being town from my mind

[Cycle Men]

excuse me, do you want to be lynched? join the wagon.

this one to be exact
i cant squeeze a single drop of town motivation out of this

[Cycle Men]

it just screams scum trying to look bold

[Elements]

remind me who you're claiming the scum team are cycle

[humaneatingmonkey]

the town motivation is that we want NorwEE to be lynched

[Cycle Men]

remind me who you're claiming the scum team are cycle

you, human, firebringer, a mystery wildcard

[Cycle Men]

the town motivation is that we want NorwEE to be lynched

mislynched*

[humaneatingmonkey]

You don't net scum points when you're town and you switch to a competing bandwagon to avoid your own lynch.

Exactly.

My point was town!NorwEE would net town points if scum!Clemency jumps on him to avoid his lynch.

[humaneatingmonkey]

remind me who you're claiming the scum team are cycle

you, human, firebringer, a mystery wildcard

see one of the reasons i scumread you is your firebringer read. can you explain more why firebringer is scum?

[humaneatingmonkey]

the town motivation is that we want NorwEE to be lynched

mislynched*

so you strongly believe that NorwEE is town? Why?

[votato]

chill out people, jeez. VOTE: elements.

[humaneatingmonkey]

votato! what's your take on things

[votato]

my take is that people spammed the thread wayyyy too much. At least now we have people split into two camps basically. I think there might well be at least one scum on each wagon, and im not sure i like most of the reasoning behind peoples votes. but at least now if we have a lynch we will learn something. i dont really like alisae, elements, crayon, isis, or firebringer. isis is a weaker scumread. cyclemen is being strange but im not sure what to make of it yet. im fine with leaving cyclemen alive to gather more info. norway is also unclear for me, but the association with ali should help clarify once one of them flips.

[humaneatingmonkey]

what do you think about my vote on cycle men? why do you like the elements wagon better than cycle men?

[humaneatingmonkey]

i don't think it was spam. i think the past 15 pages have been the most AI content in the game, and im happy it happened.

[votato]

like i said, i think cycle men is fine to save for later when we have more info.

i think people who ask people to tell them what they think about their vote are generally scummy. I'm also not sure i follow your progression that leads you to change your vote. It almost seems like your vote changes with the way the wind is blowing rather than as your reads shift.

[humaneatingmonkey]

wut. i literally telegraphed my whole progression.

also, Clemency is right in that he's engaged the game and stopped being strange so you surely must have information now.
the reason why i ask is because you must have thought about it when choosing between the two wagons especially since you think there might well be at least one scum on each wagon — this means you think elements is scum and not Clemency.
I'm begging you to read the past 15-20 pages again, and give us your long due "contribution at the end of the day".

[votato]

Spoiler:

VOTE: NorwEE

Let's go.

NorwEE is our best lynch today.

this doesn't even sort monkey because monkey is town no matter what norwee is

how does that not sort me if im town no matter what

you're town, right? if you're town, you would avoid your mislynch and make yourself understandable.

elements and norwee probably

>about to be lynched
>says elements and norwee are probably the scum
>keeps vote on Firebringer
>keeps vote on Firebringer even if there's an opportunity to build a wagon with people he doesn't scumread

prove you're trying and express your train of thought, so i don't change my mind and lynch you instead

i like how you conveniently left out the part where your question was "who

on your wagon

is scum"

so? you still think they're scum.

VOTE: Cycle Men

Okay bro

your progression from voting norweigan to voting cycle seems to be all in the last four posts there. 891 is not AI. being bad at english/posting is bad for either alignment. both scum and town want to be understood generally. 889 is a valid point. not sure if i follow cycle's logic. but you just said you dont understand what cycle is doing/saying. why not ask for clarification? 898 shows that you really dont understand where cycle is coming from. he answered a different question, so your read is based on misrep or misread. 902 doesnt help clarify anything.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Uhm, bro I think you're the one misreading things. First, what do you mean about being bad at English? At no point did I not understand what he said. What I don't understand is why he'd do the things he's doing if he's town.

I refer you to #1153. Thank you.

[Alisae]

Votato why exactly do you not like me?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'll hammer whatever gets to L-1 except myself.
I'll support Cycle Men because I personally think he flips town but if it does flip scum then there are probably some things I have to re-evaluate, since I'm off base completely.
Also I too also believe Norwee is snuggly but im just tryina to play mafia KEKW

I would vote alisae lol

[votato]

@alisae, i dont like you because youre a big mean bully.

@hem
"make yourself understandable."
"prove you're trying and express your train of thought"
these read like "i see that youre saying stuff, but i dont understand what. elaborate. i dont know what you mean."
and i dont know that i agree with 1153. plus coming up with a reason for a vote ex post is not the same as having a progression leading up to the vote.

[Elements]

if there's people willing to wagon
VOTE: alisae