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[PenguinPower]

mine

[votato]

a) I'm not sure innocent child fits with penguin.
b) it still seems odd to out that early since it makes you an obvious target for night kills, and there was legitimately little pressure on you.

[PenguinPower]

a.) I....I'm not an innocent child. I was mocking your stating it's odd to have a mod confirmable role D1. I am very obviously a Reflexive Friendly Neighbor.
b.) Uh...that's the point point of my role. Scum have to choose between confirmed town or taking a shot at a more powerful role...

If I was just a Friendly Neighbor it would make sense not to out it and to target town reads at night...but I'm reflexive so it doesn't work if I don't get targeted.

Jesus.

[HoldenGolden]

Because I can prove it through the moderator and it doesn't require any sort of coordination of activities? Wow...great question.

Target me tonight with any action and the mod tells you that I am town + you get a sick gif of my choosing.

Your in luck since I'm a multiple user personality confused miller
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I know your focus is on getting votato lynched because it's your only focus. That's my issue. You justified creating a situation where that is allowed to be your own focused. And even with that focus, I see inconsistencies. Creature just gave reasons for town!votato and your not taking a stance against it. It feels off for you to create a narrow mindset and then not even follow it 100% of the time.

You bring it up everytime your suspected and then sit back on the tunnel. Dont tell me why that doesnt look suspicious regardless of you claiming your mod confirmable?

Pedit: I mean it's pretty obvious the general role ball park he is claiming

[PenguinPower]

Why would I claim to be mod confirmable as scum and tell people exactly how to confirm me? What's my play when it doesn't work?

[PenguinPower]

Gosh...some people in this list are just frustrating.

[PenguinPower]

"You claim to have a provable role and are tunneling on someone who has done really scummy things...that makes you scum!"

[votato]

a.) I....I'm not an innocent child. I was mocking your stating it's odd to have a mod confirmable role D1. I am very obviously a Reflexive Friendly Neighbor.
b.) Uh...that's the point point of my role. Scum have to choose between confirmed town or taking a shot at a more powerful role...

If I was just a Friendly Neighbor it would make sense not to out it and to target town reads at night...but I'm reflexive so it doesn't work if I don't get targeted.

Jesus.

i still dont see how a reflexive friendly neighbor fits penguin.
i also dont think thats the best use of your role. arent you more valuable if you claim later on and get used in lylo?
i could be totally off-base here. but could you cut the new guy some slack in terms of methodology and help me learn rather than be condescending?
i think this exchange is probably way past peak usefulness anyway. i hope you can see that maybe youre tunneling a bit. im sorry for doing the same to you.

[PenguinPower]

I am tunneling on you. I really don't believe your progression on understanding your role. It's unlikely to change.

Waiting until later in the game requires there to be:

a.) Roles that can still target me
b.) Roles that can still target my animal type
c.) Roles a & b that are willing to target me.

Better to do it earlier.

[PenguinPower]

+ since there will still be people like Holden that say "well,

I

didn't get confirmation from the mod that you're town so you aren't" (if for whatever reason scum keep me alive) a flipped town player who confirmed me would shut that person up. So, again, earlier rather than later.

[PenguinPower]

+ since there will still be people like Holden that say "well,

I

didn't get confirmation from the mod that you're town so you aren't" (if for whatever reason scum keep me alive) a flipped town player who confirmed me would shut that person up. So, again, earlier rather than later.

[HoldenGolden]

Why would I claim to be mod confirmable as scum and tell people exactly how to confirm me? What's my play when it doesn't work?

Theres ways to explain it from scum pov.

And there you go not listening to what I'm saying. I'm not suspecting you because of the claim to be provable nor the fact your tunneling, its HOW your doing it that's my issue. I dont see the motivation in not following up every instance where someone claims votato is town and logically prove why they are incorrect vs repeating "potato is scum" for the same reasons if THATS all you want to focus on for an entire day phase

I agree with Votato. We are talking pass each other at this point.

[PenguinPower]

Okay, Holden.

[HoldenGolden]

+ since there will still be people like Holden that say "well,

I

didn't get confirmation from the mod that you're town so you aren't" (if for whatever reason scum keep me alive) a flipped town player who confirmed me would shut that person up. So, again, earlier rather than later.

"when your mod confirmed then your mod confirmed" that's what I said.

If people come out day 2 and confirm you then good, your confirmed. All I've literally said is that until then I'm not considering you as mod confirmed which is fair.

Peace be in our times

[PenguinPower]

But, you're willing to lynch me before that can happen.

Makes sense.

[April Ludgate]

Dunnstral, Dr Easy Bake, Chemist, or Creature probably has scum in it.

Based on what?

Votes and wagons.

[April Ludgate]

We literally can confirm the role, votato votes are scummy.

And if a role block comes in somewhere then it’s confirmed roleblock and we can lynch votato tomorrow.

And how exactly would you like to confirm votato's role? He now claimed that the target has to be attacked too in order for him to do any action.

Read up, I’ve explained how.

[Bingle]

Have fun sorting Bingle.

It’s okay, I’m pretty sure I’ll have a read on him by D3. D4 at the latest.

[April Ludgate]

We literally can confirm the role, votato votes are scummy.

And if a role block comes in somewhere then it’s confirmed roleblock and we can lynch votato tomorrow.

And how exactly would you like to confirm votato's role? He now claimed that the target has to be attacked too in order for him to do any action.

You got to think about an RB, or something else out there that could mess with it.
I don't see why April thinks votato has to be town just based on the claim. It could be fake.

@April: Besides the claim from votato could you explain your town read on him?

I’m fine with being roleblocked too, that just gives us info on the game.

I also don’t have Votato as high town, i said they could still be scum, i think it’s fine to wait a day, though in the chance that we legit do confirm him.

[HoldenGolden]

Fish

Pedit- yes I'm going to call you out for it bc I dont find it particularly helpful regardless of your alignment

If your town it hopefully lits a fire under your ass
If your scum it lites a fire under your ass

Fish is great tho

[Birds and the Boys]

Holden, do you think that a scum PP would really make that sort of claim?

Can we get more votes on Dunnstral please? That iso is terrible.

- turducken

[April Ludgate]

We literally can confirm the role, votato votes are scummy.

And if a role block comes in somewhere then it’s confirmed roleblock and we can lynch votato tomorrow.

No we realistically cannot given his addtional information about his role.

Town votato would be a prime target to get roleblocked. Scum votato can just claim to be rbed. Thus votato claiming to be roleblocked day 2 would be NAI.

If we do somehow coordinate a town KP, you, and votato (who all have to be town for it to work) all on the same person without scum interference, then we all should laugh before beating the scum team for being incompetent.

Tldr: the only way town!votato can be confirmed given what we know is if the scum team makes a mistake (or they dont have a roleblocker/way to stop it). As such the plan to confirm him is far too risky since scum!votato can lie about the rb and then the town KP needed to set it all off kills the target. It can be minimized I guess by choosing a scummy person to kill theoretically, but then that's also going down the rabbit hole of further role speculation.

How do you know scum have a roleblocker?

This is also something that gets figured out this way, i don’t get the hold up.

Votato isn’t even like the #1 choice, he looks like low hanging fruit in the first place. Impatience in people is scummy.

[PenguinPower]

I'm ignoring Holden for the remainder of this Day.

I'd compromise on Dunn at EOD if needed.

[April Ludgate]

We literally can confirm the role, votato votes are scummy.

And if a role block comes in somewhere then it’s confirmed roleblock and we can lynch votato tomorrow.

No we realistically cannot given his addtional information about his role.

Town votato would be a prime target to get roleblocked. Scum votato can just claim to be rbed. Thus votato claiming to be roleblocked day 2 would be NAI.

If we do somehow coordinate a town KP, you, and votato (who all have to be town for it to work) all on the same person without scum interference, then we all should laugh before beating the scum team for being incompetent.

Tldr: the only way town!votato can be confirmed given what we know is if the scum team makes a mistake (or they dont have a roleblocker/way to stop it). As such the plan to confirm him is far too risky since scum!votato can lie about the rb and then the town KP needed to set it all off kills the target. It can be minimized I guess by choosing a scummy person to kill theoretically, but then that's also going down the rabbit hole of further role speculation.

why are you so sure scum has a roleblocker?

Mindmeld, sick

[Birds and the Boys]

Votato town
BS town
HoldenGolden town

PP town
HoldenGolden town
April Ludgate town
BS town
Votato town
Conspire townlean

Time to start the PoE pool!

- turducken