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[PenguinPower]

[HoldenGolden]

I find it interesting how people on this site lynch lurkers without making such a big fuss about it.

@Holden

The reason I dislike Dr Easy Bake is mostly based on his behavior. It's not even close to what I played with before. I don't get how he has the reads he does and I feel like they're not genuine. It's not amazing reasoning but it's my own.

I get that, but I'm asking for you to show why you think they arent genuine. What posts gave you the indication that they are forced reads/reactions.

That's all I want. Burden of proof

[Blatant Scum]

Then vote fotahdo.

No, he claims to be confirmable

Yes. If he AND April can predict where mafia strikes.

We literally can confirm the role, votato votes are scummy.

And if a role block comes in somewhere then it’s confirmed roleblock and we can lynch votato tomorrow.

No we realistically cannot given his addtional information about his role.

Town votato would be a prime target to get roleblocked. Scum votato can just claim to be rbed. Thus votato claiming to be roleblocked day 2 would be NAI.

If we do somehow coordinate a town KP, you, and votato (who all have to be town for it to work) all on the same person without scum interference, then we all should laugh before beating the scum team for being incompetent.

Tldr: the only way town!votato can be confirmed given what we know is if the scum team makes a mistake (or they dont have a roleblocker/way to stop it). As such the plan to confirm him is far too risky since scum!votato can lie about the rb and then the town KP needed to set it all off kills the target. It can be minimized I guess by choosing a scummy person to kill theoretically, but then that's also going down the rabbit hole of further role speculation.

Wastling a vigi shot probably isn't worth confirming votato.

This is a scum slip.

He actively points out he sees that I’d waste a Vig shot to confirm Votato.

Now he says we have to both guess the scum kill?

This is straight up incorrect and actually impli3s that the scum facti9nal kill has a built in janitor slot, because the general scum kill wouldn’t have any synergy with his role because it requires them to also be janitored.

VOTE: Blatant Scum

Votato can be confirmed by:
1) April + vigilante + votato + random person must visit the same target the same night, while no one of them is RBed.
2) April + mafia + votato + random person must visit the same target the same night, while no one of them is RBed.
I don't think mafia has janitor in this setup. It would make votato too powerful.

[Blatant Scum]

April - Dunn or BS?

BS just slipped scum have a factional janitor kill

Walk me through the scumslip, I don't understand it.

[Blatant Scum]

If anything you just slipped that your a vig lol.

I’ve essentially already claimed this, how else would i have the janitor ability.


I’m a JOAT. I have a 1 shot Janitor Vig.

So you shoot AND clean? In this case the plan makes sense. But if there is a watcher, he should watch fotato!

[Blatant Scum]

a) I'm not sure innocent child fits with penguin.
b) it still seems odd to out that early since it makes you an obvious target for night kills, and there was legitimately little pressure on you.

I can shoot PP tonight to confirm he is town.

You're a vig too? da heck is this game.

- turducken

Yes. But I don't kill.

[Bingle]

April Ludgate is Nero Cain, I would bet.

- turducken

If I had to guess, I'd say Titus, but I don't think Titus does alts.

[Clover Ebi]

Anyway, this is what I got right now

jj town
conspire scum
April lean town
Penguin lean town
clover lean scum
Blatant Scum scum
votaytoh lean scum
Calvin lean town, failed mason claim imo, but not scum indicative necessarily.

Before this post he had mostly filler posting that wasn't really anything to blink at. You could see traces of what you'd expect but this list just doesn't seem genuine to me? With no reasoning I don't see how he got this list. I can't really prove much on this because he doesn't give any reasons that I can dig into, so it's more gut.

if ur not voting chemist ur just helping the scum team.

which is fine for holden but the rest of you know better.

VOTE: chemist

~fire

If I missed it, my bad, but I don't see where you ACTUALLY GIVE A DAMN REASON BEHIND THIS!

This feels like a strong overreaction

Lol wait did I actually hammer BS?

I think he's playing dumb with this post. It seems pretty forced. Like he's trying to have a casual air in his posting.

[Bingle]

@Penguin - we should just disregard that anyways. It’s a moo point.

you got it.

[PenguinPower]

@Penguin - we should just disregard that anyways. It’s a moo point.

you got it.

[Bingle]

Where did it come from?

My townreads. I'm not including myself because honestly half of this playerlist would doubt I was town if the mod confirmed it. Also, Penguin is half of this player list now.

[Bingle]

@Penguin - we should just disregard that anyways. It’s a moo point.

you got it.

I feel like we've had this exact interaction before, and I look forward to having it again in the future.

[PenguinPower]

The above is true on all three counts.

[Bingle]

Here’s a Vig, there’s a Vig, everywhere’s a Vig Vig, old McDonald had a farm, with a lot of dead bodies

[Bingle]

Updated readslist.

Town:

PenguinPower
April Ludgate
Creature
Clover Ebi

Town, but maybe I'm wrong because other people say they're not:

jjh927
Birds and the Boys
farside22

LHF, but probably still town:

votato
Dr Easy Bake

I think maybe I townread him, but I forgot if that's actually a thing and also why that would be a thing:

Blatant Scum

Definitely a player in this game, I think:

HoldenGolden
chemist1422
Conspire

Would lynch:

Calvin and Hobbes
Dunnstral

Scum? Maybe? God I feel icky saying this:

mastina

[farside22]

Okay, I'm back!
@DEB: "Failed Mason claim"? Did you not think it was obviously fake? What was the fail?

-Calvin

Do you still think we are scum?

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Could everyone give me their top 1-2 townreads?

-turducken

HoldenGolden

Farside is decently high still on my list. Most of the people who get close to the top posts something that pings me which is probably a sign that I need to loosen up from the gameplan I entered with.

Assuming how jj answers he can be promoted to townhood

hard disagree about jj.

a.) I....I'm not an innocent child. I was mocking your stating it's odd to have a mod confirmable role D1. I am very obviously a Reflexive Friendly Neighbor.
b.) Uh...that's the point point of my role. Scum have to choose between confirmed town or taking a shot at a more powerful role...

If I was just a Friendly Neighbor it would make sense not to out it and to target town reads at night...but I'm reflexive so it doesn't work if I don't get targeted.

Jesus.

i still dont see how a reflexive friendly neighbor fits penguin.
i also dont think thats the best use of your role. arent you more valuable if you claim later on and get used in lylo?
i could be totally off-base here. but could you cut the new guy some slack in terms of methodology and help me learn rather than be condescending?
i think this exchange is probably way past peak usefulness anyway. i hope you can see that maybe youre tunneling a bit. im sorry for doing the same to you.

Does your animal make sense for your animal role?
Most u-picks have roles and then a player picks an animal/character and the mod uses flavor for the role PM.
I'm curious why you think animal = ability.

We literally can confirm the role, votato votes are scummy.

And if a role block comes in somewhere then it’s confirmed roleblock and we can lynch votato tomorrow.

No we realistically cannot given his addtional information about his role.

Town votato would be a prime target to get roleblocked. Scum votato can just claim to be rbed. Thus votato claiming to be roleblocked day 2 would be NAI.

If we do somehow coordinate a town KP, you, and votato (who all have to be town for it to work) all on the same person without scum interference, then we all should laugh before beating the scum team for being incompetent.

Tldr: the only way town!votato can be confirmed given what we know is if the scum team makes a mistake (or they dont have a roleblocker/way to stop it). As such the plan to confirm him is far too risky since scum!votato can lie about the rb and then the town KP needed to set it all off kills the target. It can be minimized I guess by choosing a scummy person to kill theoretically, but then that's also going down the rabbit hole of further role speculation.

Wastling a vigi shot probably isn't worth confirming votato.

Don’t you think he’s scum?

It’s not a waste if he’s scum.

This is literally the point of it all.

If a kill goes through, he is essentially confirmed scum. If not, then he’s town or scum and I was blocked or he was blocked. That’s great info.

People who are trying to against this are just plain scummy regardless of your read on Votato.

I’m actually dead null on Votato as of right now tbh. I just don’t care enough to think about the slot today when i can get more info out of it over night.

We literally can confirm the role, votato votes are scummy.

And if a role block comes in somewhere then it’s confirmed roleblock and we can lynch votato tomorrow.

No we realistically cannot given his addtional information about his role.

Town votato would be a prime target to get roleblocked. Scum votato can just claim to be rbed. Thus votato claiming to be roleblocked day 2 would be NAI.

If we do somehow coordinate a town KP, you, and votato (who all have to be town for it to work) all on the same person without scum interference, then we all should laugh before beating the scum team for being incompetent.

Tldr: the only way town!votato can be confirmed given what we know is if the scum team makes a mistake (or they dont have a roleblocker/way to stop it). As such the plan to confirm him is far too risky since scum!votato can lie about the rb and then the town KP needed to set it all off kills the target. It can be minimized I guess by choosing a scummy person to kill theoretically, but then that's also going down the rabbit hole of further role speculation.

Wastling a vigi shot probably isn't worth confirming votato.

Don’t you think he’s scum?

It’s not a waste if he’s scum.

This is literally the point of it all.

If a kill goes through, he is essentially confirmed scum. If not, then he’s town or scum and I was blocked or he was blocked. That’s great info.

People who are trying to against this are just plain scummy regardless of your read on Votato.

I’m actually dead null on Votato as of right now tbh. I just don’t care enough to think about the slot today when i can get more info out of it over night.

Because it requires 3 Town PRs assuming that votato and you are town to pull off and has a high chance of giving scum a second kill that would be cleaned if they have a common role or if votato is scum?

Your plan has a chance. It's effectively putting all your chips on one number in roulette though. At that point we can just bet on there being an invest role to check him and free up whoever the town PRs are for use else where.

Pedit: what? Souldnt that instead implied I scumslipped since I brought up the vig comment?

There’s literally no downside...idk why people are acting like there is. We can just lynch him tomorrow if he isn’t confirmed.

No, you didn’t say that Votato and I have to target the scum kill.

Why would the scum kill matter? He doesn’t protect a regular scum kill, he can only protect people that have been janitored.

BS slipped that the scum kill is a factional janitor.

I copied a lot of quotes from April but I don't see a slip. Can you explain why you thought it was a slip?

[votato]

I have some stronger town reads. My top scum reads are PP (waiting for confirmation), dunn, and BS. Still a whole lot of people I'm having trouble figuring out. jjh and birds are my strongest townreads.

[Blatant Scum]

Bingle doing readlist day 1?

[votato]

Where did it come from?

My townreads. I'm not including myself because honestly half of this playerlist would doubt I was town if the mod confirmed it. Also, Penguin is half of this player list now.

what does that mean? are you implying you can also be confirmed town? are you implying that we shouldnt trust penguin even if penguin is confirmed?

[Blatant Scum]

I have some stronger town reads. My top scum reads are PP (waiting for confirmation), dunn, and BS. Still a whole lot of people I'm having trouble figuring out. jjh and birds are my strongest townreads.

Can we lynch neither of these day 1. Please?

[farside22]

I have some stronger town reads. My top scum reads are PP (waiting for confirmation), dunn, and BS. Still a whole lot of people I'm having trouble figuring out. jjh and birds are my strongest townreads.

Why BS?

[votato]

My SRs are weaker than my TRs so far. the main reason i SR BS is that his ISO reads like hyperactive lurking. There are a whole lot of posts, but little analysis and little in the way of reads or analysis. Mostly he has been focused on me all day, which is OK i suppose, except that he seems to generally town-read me and believes my roleclaim.

I have seen town players play very similar to Dunn's playstyle.
Votato is no longer confirmable. I think he is an "optimal mislynch".

Is that due to how the wagons and game stalled, or simply your read on votato?

I think Votato's claim is towny. Yes, I read Penguin's ISO. I called him "optimal mislynch" because:
1) I wanted to be quoted
2) People still scumread him and he is basically unconfirmable.

he might not stand by the optimal mislynch part, but he still thinks my claim is towny. if so, why hasnt he explored any other possible scum.

I would love if today's lynch were in {jjh927, mastina, Conspire, chemist1422, Calvin and Hobbes, PenguinPower, Dunnstral, Dr Easy Bake, Creature}.

he's ok with lynching half the lobby?

BS: who are your other scum reads? why havent you put any effort into engaging them or pressuring them?

[farside22]

*pats unicorn*
Its okay. I feel pretty sure your scum based on a lot of your wishy washy responses. You are very lucky I'm not feeling doing my best not to tunnel you. But if that vote count turns to you, I will be there so fast.

[votato]

*pats unicorn*
Its okay. I feel pretty sure your scum based on a lot of your wishy washy responses. You are very lucky I'm not feeling doing my best not to tunnel you. But if that vote count turns to you, I will be there so fast.

may i ask where you just patted me?

[Dr Easy Bake]

Lol, moo point