SIR Disease Mafia - Game Over!

[Covid 19]

Day 1 VC #27

Auro (0):
Hoctac (1): Elements (730)
5G Tower (0):
Vecna (2): Alchemist21 (124), Voted (802)
Voted (0):
Alchemist21 (2): Vecna (781), Auro (783)
Elements (0):
Flavor Leaf (0):
farside22 (3): Nero Cain (800), davesaz (803), Quick (820)
EspeciallyTheLies (1): mastina (397)
mastina (2): Saudade (429), EspeciallyTheLies (436)
Miss Lynch (0):
Tchill13 (2): farside22 (319), Hoctac (794)
Saudade (2): 50 Judge Powers (496), Tchill13 (758)
No Lynch (0):
Not Voting (6): Creature, 5G Tower, Jake the Wolfie, Aristophanes, Flavor Leaf (449), Miss Lynch (489)

With 21 alive, it takes 11 votes to lynch a player.

This phase will end on May 19, 2020 1:00 PM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2020-05-19 13:00:00).

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2.

Please note the prodding rules. You are prodded after 32 hours of inactivity except on Saturday-Monday.

3. MathBlade's automated votecounter doesn't appear to track No Lynch votes properly. I'm still waiting for a response from him.
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[Quick]

[quote="In post 810not really town reading Vecna but my blood lust has dissipated.
was overly conscious.[/quote]

What made it change?

[Quick]

IDK how to fix that.

Nero, what change for you on who you were voting before? (sorry bad with names, so don't know. The guy with the beavis and butthead avi).

[Quick]

I don’t Know how to deal with alignment switches so I’m not gonna worry about it until tomorrow

I think it's critical to know whether infected become aware of who other infected and/or mafia are, or if they just know they're infected.
I don't remember if the 1st page said anything about this. I think it's too close to bedtime to try to grok it right now.

If farside wants to NOT scumhunt, they should really be saying things like this and not what they are actually saying. Just saying.

[Quick]

"Oh, but this is SUCH a WEIRD GAME! I Don't understand what is going on. Send halp!"

[Nero Cain]

something feels kinda weird about tchill questioning me about the difference between me thinking he was scum hunting and farside was asking hollow q's.

not a whole lot changed for me about Vecna, I said I was still not town reading him though the current Vecna seems more like the Vecna I've played with in the past.

[Nero Cain]

farside doesnt agree and is pushing me as scum.

farside is just sitting on you. I don't think she's hunting. lol

[Quick]

farside doesnt agree and is pushing me as scum.

farside is just sitting on you. I don't think she's hunting. lol

Yeah,, I kinda think there are MULTIPLE reasons to vote farside rn. *shrug*

[Quick]

Quick, your salt dries and hardens my sturdy pole.
I will never die.
While you babble on about reads and who's this or who's that, there is a war brewing in your cells.
I am...zzz.z..z...z.z..z.zz..z..z.z..Spanos!
Get it? Because my glorious 5G Network spans across the globe?
Damn, I'm good.
Except, who the fuck still cares about The Avengers?
Fuck it, I'm not Spanos. I'm 5G Tower, that shits threatening enough.
I mean, why mess with a classic, right?

we can lynch this. Just another schtick for someone who doenst know how to play with real content when they roll scum so they fluff as either alignment to get by 24/7.

unless someone has history with this player and can dispute my statement?

This is a pretty bad post my guy.

Let's focus on actual Scum instead of nobodies.

[Vecna]

:3 anyone else you think I should be strongly townreading?

*ahem*

anyways, itll come

[Quick]

:3 anyone else you think I should be strongly townreading?

Well I'm not really sure why you were putting pressure on me when I am obvtown, but beyond that I don't really have any problems with your reads.

I am just asking here but is this spicy or not that they never answered this?

[Quick]

Please infect Dave

Are you aware you're both implying you know I'm (currently) town?

Oof.

[Quick]

no we cant but I have a dream where we site wide PL players like this for 3 months and irradicate the mindset lol

VOTE: saudade

[farside22]

I'm seeing a lot of nonsense that I can't relate anything too.

Are you getting / seeing any replies to the things that you do question?

again I said I got replies, nothing came from it because the response was enough.

okay had coffee, woke up and thought about this game. It isn't normal. I came at this as scum hunting, looking for scum and trying to find things that pinged me like normal.
The issue is that many players are playing really weird. There is a number of them that just do whatever and don't care.
I realized with scum infecting players that just acting out leaves no room for a good read and I thought why wouldn't scum do that? Hide amoung those that do nothing.
So I got my list together; did some iso and would lynch among the following:

Hotac, 5G, Jake the Wolf (actively lurking) Flavor Leaf, Tchill (This one has more of my attention because I see he has serious comment but then votes are not matching reads and he follows wagons).

No read: Ari, momo (probably needs to be replaced as I didn't see he was posting anywhere), 50 Judge

im developing reads and looking at reactions, especially as early as it was when i was last active.

So what happened to that?

anyways mastina scum slipped when she asked whether this game is a joke/serious to mask her indecisiveness to post in this game only to then serious post for the next page

It's a psychological slip and nothing will make me unvote this slot I think

I dont like this, if you're being serious.

He wasn't the only one that said that.

I'm seeing a lot of nonsense that I can't relate anything too.

You seem to be ignoring me, farside. You sure all of my posts were nonsense?

I found some that were not.

though now that I think about it there is kinda a weird dynamic here

farside is sitting on tchill

but tchill likes her

I said I think farside is scummy

she's...understanding of my reasoning

tchill is kinda light defending her

I would not say I'm sitting. I took a step back when no one followed my logic. I'm used to people agreeing with me at the start of games and following me.

no we cant but I have a dream where we site wide PL players like this for 3 months and irradicate the mindset lol

VOTE: saudade

A small part of me wished I was like this.

next time I roll scum im going to do nothing but sheep since scum never do that

Why just do it as scum. Do it all the time. I may one day do it just to get it out of my system.

Im null on faside now btw.

I liked farsides questioning early but farside thinks its hollow.

Nero thinks im legit scumhunting more than farside.

farside doesnt agree and is pushing me as scum.

Interesting take as you admit farside isn't scum hunting.

farside them self said it was hollow what am I supposed to think of that lol.

What was hollow? That they are not scum hunting or something else?

Im null on faside now btw.

I liked farsides questioning early but farside thinks its hollow.

Nero thinks im legit scumhunting more than farside.

farside doesnt agree and is pushing me as scum.

Interesting take as you admit farside isn't scum hunting.

farside them self said it was hollow what am I supposed to think of that lol.

I didn't say they were hollow, just saying I can see where Nero is coming from.
I feel like a bunch of people just glossed over everything I said and took "fair enough" as me saying it was truth.

I'm going to get my case together shortly.

[Vecna]

I don't agree with mastina about townbinning people off just a couple posts. That's far too dangerous. Even 10-20 can be too few.

Being that willing to put that much detail out there for TRs could be coming from town. Scum would be going out on a limb in a normal game. In a basically cult game though, TRs aren't going to be static anyway so it would be less of a risk to do that.

I don't like the self meta. Admittedly I do tend to say that people who know me should town read me, but I don't try to raise it to near trust tell levels of confidence.

Actually I'm going to say it again. There is much less value in finding town reads this game. The goal has to be nailing scum and noticing the subtle changes that come from being infected.

noticing differences will be extremely difficult and most likely just lead to mislynches if we trust on that.

lynching scum d1 will be super important. predicting infection picks probably wont be possible.

my prediction: this game will be hunting the three initial scum and hoping that stops the infection abilities. then most likely finding a way to get us to the 50% immunity

[Quick]

Put a percentage on FL being Town for me.

If the default were 50% for a user, I'd place him at somewhere in the 60-70% range.

Okay, so then it's NOT actually "very high probability" that they are Town. Good to know.

Someone look at that please.

I more or less think it

far more likely

that FL is just not invested as town,

Thanks for you time.

Actually, could this just mean mastina is Town?

Still, Saud had a decent point on mastina after thinking about it over night.

[Nero Cain]

I would not say I'm sitting. I took a step back when no one followed my logic.

but you never threw out a tchill case? if you didn't why did you expect anyone to sheep you? If you did can you quote it?

[Quick]

VOTE: Jake the Wolfie

Let's pressure this slot and see if they have any playing ability?

[Quick]

I would not say I'm sitting. I took a step back when no one followed my logic.

but you never threw out a tchill case? if you didn't why did you expect anyone to sheep you? If you did can you quote it?

Was their vote RVS?

[Nero Cain]

no

[farside22]

So as I said earlier about tchill was his actions don't match his vote as one of the more serious players in the game.

Farside seems alright, pretty even in the approach of the game atm.

Auro is meh lean scum. Little too much posts with little to no game comments for my liking this early.

Farside seems alright, pretty even in the approach of the game atm.

Auro is meh lean scum. Little too much posts with little to no game comments for my liking this early.

ETL do you think ML as scum would be willing to grab the spot light and tunnel you on a semi absurd reason? do you consider that good scum play this early?

No. She's probably town.

auro - seems scummy b/c contentless posts. FIVE contentless posts.

Make it 8 now!

@Miss Lynch: I watched Community years ago, it's one of my FAVORITE shows! Sadly it's not on Netflix in India right now for another rewatch.

VOTE: Auro

Because I'm actually binging on a bunch of TV shows, don't want to expend much mental energy right now?

Sure: I've played with Miss Lynch before, skimmed her scum meta, and I believe this level of early conviction and emotion in a push is town indicative.
EspeciallyALiar for involvement, progressing the game, and pushing me when I was "buddying up" to the slot.
Vecna because he's my mason buddy.
farside for involvement, progressing the game, and familiar meta from a recent game.

hmmmk. thanks.

VOTE: hoctac

that didnt last long.

I find it odd you immediately vote the guy I was shading then back off after a pretty quick resolution when you've already showed you can play with some real conviction.

pretty easy to come out from your suspicion it seems ETL.

Talks about Auro as scum with no follow up and questions EtL about the actions. His follow up is he felt better about EtL but what happened with auro.
He votes for venca out of the blue

that didnt last long.

I find it odd you immediately vote the guy I was shading then back off after a pretty quick resolution when you've already showed you can play with some real conviction.

pretty easy to come out from your suspicion it seems ETL.

I was interested in Auro because he had said absolutely nothing of an import. I wanted to get more from him. I did.

I don't want to play with conviction anymore. It doesn't do any good.

I just found it odd that i vote you, i shade someone, you vote said shade then you move on relatively quick.

Its a little weird that nobody really pushed you after the fiasco but it seems like your handling of auro will suffice for now.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: vecna

Townreads on farside, EspeciallyTheLies, Miss Lynch, Vecna.

Alchemist you wanna try and explain what feels off in Vecna's tone? I find certain elements almost exactly matching his play in the last game I've seen him town in, like somewhat exaggerated reasoning to townread someone early.

This wasn't the approach I thought I would see people would take in the game though, considering it's basically a bastard cult game.

Yeah.....this shit is gonna fuck with me bigtime

alignment changes? oof

Scratch the shit I told you Nero, hypersuspicion is back on the menu

this just pings me. Seems like the "realization" would make him seem more town. He defended ML but never pushed ETL. Waited till the end to call that TvT.

Seems to have sprinkled in playful banter with auro and nero.

very easy sailing on vecna's ship atm. Some would say he's just riding the wave. Not rocking the boat.... (out of boat euphemisms)

It just seems strange that the player who read all the general rules missed the setup information.

And this is why ML looked even townier in the initial interaction

UNVOTE:

It was mainly to see what would happen. I liked what I seen.

Bottom of 7. It's a work day and posting speed is exceeding reading speed.
I didn't notice the player list that much before. Hype.

VOTE: Hoctac
for making an alt/hydra that I'm going to confuse with too many people.

<in before someone says "ooh, delayed rvs after he had already posted!!!!">

was hoping there'd be a semi serious reason here?

VOTE: hoctac

He stated one reason for the ping on venca then unvotes and jumps on hoctac just to look busy.

Now he's calling it reactionary but I don't see how that vote on hoctac is reactionary. Or why he dropped a read on the only player he called a lean scum read.
Why is it suspicious of EtL to throw shade on a player he scum reads?

Things like that just didn't make sense to me.

In short I see those light jabs, things that go no where and then back to rando voting to blend in more coming from scum.

[Quick]

no

Okay, perhaps I moved my vote too quickly.

In any case, I don't really like Tchill but I also really don't like Wolfie.

[farside22]

I would not say I'm sitting. I took a step back when no one followed my logic.

but you never threw out a tchill case? if you didn't why did you expect anyone to sheep you? If you did can you quote it?

I thought it was clear when I was talking about the wagon hopping and vote on hotoc.

[Nero Cain]

Sorta funny that farside is pushing tchill on the same things that farside is getting pushed for.

[farside22]

no

Okay, perhaps I moved my vote too quickly.

In any case, I don't really like Tchill but I also really don't like Wolfie.

I'd vote either. I think I saw wolfie had 2 post last I looked that just read as filler.