Where in this did you vote for Tchill? You can't really rightly give reasons that happen after the fact if you get what I am saying. What WERE your reasons for voting Tchill?In post 845, farside22 wrote:So as I said earlier about tchill was his actions don't match his vote as one of the more serious players in the game.
In post 169, Tchill13 wrote:Farside seems alright, pretty even in the approach of the game atm.
Auro is meh lean scum. Little too much posts with little to no game comments for my liking this early.Talks about Auro as scum with no follow up and questions EtL about the actions. His follow up is he felt better about EtL but what happened with auro.In post 198, Tchill13 wrote:In post 169, Tchill13 wrote:Farside seems alright, pretty even in the approach of the game atm.
Auro is meh lean scum. Little too much posts with little to no game comments for my liking this early.In post 173, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:No. She's probably town.In post 161, Tchill13 wrote:ETL do you think ML as scum would be willing to grab the spot light and tunnel you on a semi absurd reason? do you consider that good scum play this early?
VOTE: AuroIn post 164, Auro wrote:Make it 8 now!In post 111, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:auro - seems scummy b/c contentless posts. FIVE contentless posts.
@Miss Lynch: I watched Community years ago, it's one of my FAVORITE shows! Sadly it's not on Netflix in India right now for another rewatch.that didnt last long.In post 186, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:hmmmk. thanks.In post 180, Auro wrote:Because I'm actually binging on a bunch of TV shows, don't want to expend much mental energy right now?
Sure: I've played with Miss Lynch before, skimmed her scum meta, and I believe this level of early conviction and emotion in a push is town indicative.
EspeciallyALiar for involvement, progressing the game, and pushing me when I was "buddying up" to the slot.
Vecna because he's my mason buddy.
farside for involvement, progressing the game, and familiar meta from a recent game.
VOTE: hoctac
I find it odd you immediately vote the guy I was shading then back off after a pretty quick resolution when you've already showed you can play with some real conviction.
pretty easy to come out from your suspicion it seems ETL.
He votes for venca out of the blueIn post 214, Tchill13 wrote:I just found it odd that i vote you, i shade someone, you vote said shade then you move on relatively quick.In post 209, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:I was interested in Auro because he had said absolutely nothing of an import. I wanted to get more from him. I did.In post 198, Tchill13 wrote:that didnt last long.
I find it odd you immediately vote the guy I was shading then back off after a pretty quick resolution when you've already showed you can play with some real conviction.
pretty easy to come out from your suspicion it seems ETL.
I don't want to play with conviction anymore. It doesn't do any good.
Its a little weird that nobody really pushed you after the fiasco but it seems like your handling of auro will suffice for now.
UNVOTE:In post 248, Tchill13 wrote:this just pings me. Seems like the "realization" would make him seem more town. He defended ML but never pushed ETL. Waited till the end to call that TvT.In post 204, Vecna wrote:Yeah.....this shit is gonna fuck with me bigtimeIn post 174, Auro wrote:Townreads on farside, EspeciallyTheLies, Miss Lynch, Vecna.
Alchemist you wanna try and explain what feels off in Vecna's tone? I find certain elements almost exactly matching his play in the last game I've seen him town in, like somewhat exaggerated reasoning to townread someone early.
This wasn't the approach I thought I would see people would take in the game though, considering it's basically a bastard cult game.
alignment changes? oof
Scratch the shit I told you Nero, hypersuspicion is back on the menu
Seems to have sprinkled in playful banter with auro and nero.
very easy sailing on vecna's ship atm. Some would say he's just riding the wave. Not rocking the boat.... (out of boat euphemisms)In post 309, Tchill13 wrote:UNVOTE:In post 284, Vecna wrote:And this is why ML looked even townier in the initial interactionIn post 271, Miss Lane wrote:It just seems strange that the player who read all the general rules missed the setup information.
It was mainly to see what would happen. I liked what I seen.He stated one reason for the ping on venca then unvotes and jumps on hoctac just to look busy.In post 312, Tchill13 wrote:was hoping there'd be a semi serious reason here?In post 298, davesaz wrote:Bottom of 7. It's a work day and posting speed is exceeding reading speed.
I didn't notice the player list that much before. Hype.
VOTE: Hoctac
for making an alt/hydra that I'm going to confuse with too many people.
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VOTE: hoctac
Now he's calling it reactionary but I don't see how that vote on hoctac is reactionary. Or why he dropped a read on the only player he called a lean scum read.
Why is it suspicious of EtL to throw shade on a player he scum reads?
Things like that just didn't make sense to me.
In short I see those light jabs, things that go no where and then back to rando voting to blend in more coming from scum.
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Hun I admitted feeling lost in this game. You want to maybe think for a moment that at least I'm being honest and trying to sort through the reads.In post 848, Nero Cain wrote:Sorta funny that farside is pushing tchill on the same things that farside is getting pushed for.
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she's saying that
was her reasoning to vote tchillIn post 319, farside22 wrote:I'm going to put a pin on hotoc because I feel like he is being goofy, these votes are piling on him with ease and it really is bothering me with some players.
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I am just asking here but is this spicy or not that they never answered this?In post 682, Quick wrote:
Well I'm not really sure why you were putting pressure on me when I am obvtown, but beyond that I don't really have any problems with your reads.In post 680, Auro wrote::3 anyone else you think I should be strongly townreading?- farside22
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Uhg.In post 852, Nero Cain wrote:she's saying that
was her reasoning to vote tchillIn post 319, farside22 wrote:I'm going to put a pin on hotoc because I feel like he is being goofy, these votes are piling on him with ease and it really is bothering me with some players.
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I typically post on my phone and walls really suck on the phone. Found a moment to get my lazy ass off the couch and come to my computer to post stuff for games other then a few post.In post 855, Quick wrote:
Uhg.In post 852, Nero Cain wrote:she's saying that
was her reasoning to vote tchillIn post 319, farside22 wrote:I'm going to put a pin on hotoc because I feel like he is being goofy, these votes are piling on him with ease and it really is bothering me with some players.
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Okay. I feel like an honest answer would be something like, "I was getting a lot of pressure and decided to get off my ass and do something about it." but you do you I guess.In post 856, farside22 wrote:
I typically post on my phone and walls really suck on the phone. Found a moment to get my lazy ass off the couch and come to my computer to post stuff for games other then a few post.In post 855, Quick wrote:
Uhg.In post 852, Nero Cain wrote:she's saying that
was her reasoning to vote tchillIn post 319, farside22 wrote:I'm going to put a pin on hotoc because I feel like he is being goofy, these votes are piling on him with ease and it really is bothering me with some players.
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In post 851, farside22 wrote:Hun I admitted feeling lost in this game. You want to maybe think for a moment that at least I'm being honest and trying to sort through the reads.
*grumbles*
I'm just saying that you were getting voted for hollow posting and nott (looking) like you are scum hunting but you are pushing tchill for p much the same reasoning.
not really getting your comment b/c I'm not saying that I just said the cases on you two are the same.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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I stayed off my phone more today then I have lately. I just checking in here.........huh can't remember when I last looked, but decided to read games from the computer after a break away.In post 857, Quick wrote:
Okay. I feel like an honest answer would be something like, "I was getting a lot of pressure and decided to get off my ass and do something about it." but you do you I guess.In post 856, farside22 wrote:
I typically post on my phone and walls really suck on the phone. Found a moment to get my lazy ass off the couch and come to my computer to post stuff for games other then a few post.In post 855, Quick wrote:
Uhg.In post 852, Nero Cain wrote:she's saying that
was her reasoning to vote tchillIn post 319, farside22 wrote:I'm going to put a pin on hotoc because I feel like he is being goofy, these votes are piling on him with ease and it really is bothering me with some players.
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I think I wouldn't feel so shitty if I didn't think about the issues I am having with this game. Why I'm having trouble getting a good read on players and feeling lost.Nero Cain wrote:In post 851, farside22 wrote:Hun I admitted feeling lost in this game. You want to maybe think for a moment that at least I'm being honest and trying to sort through the reads.
*grumbles*
I'm just saying that you were getting voted for hollow posting and nott (looking) like you are scum hunting but you are pushing tchill for p much the same reasoning.
not really getting your comment b/c I'm not saying that I just said the cases on you two are the same.
I sensed with a few players I'm probably not the only one feeling this. Dave and alchemist looked like how I feel.
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Can you unpack this a bit? Dave is just being Dave from what I can see. alc is pretty much not doing anything really.In post 860, farside22 wrote:Dave and alchemist looked like how I feel.- Alchemist21
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This game has a small number of scum for it’s size, so finding scum is going to be significantly harder than usual. Combine that with a chunk of players not taking the game so seriously because of the nature of the setup and I’m not surprised at the difficulty of getting good reads here.In post 860, farside22 wrote:Why I'm having trouble getting a good read on players and feeling lost.- Quick
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Yeah, I get what you are saying here. It's a true statement. However, I don't really think you have demonstrated taking the game seriously yet. I get you are more of a "serious player" but I haven't really seen you do anything yet.In post 862, Alchemist21 wrote:Combine that with a chunk of players not taking the game so seriously because of the nature of the setup and I’m not surprised at the difficulty of getting good reads here.- Quick
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This strikes me funny. It doesn't seem like farside really made the argument that they were pushing Tchill for "not scumhunting" but something else. Am I wrong here?In post 858, Nero Cain wrote:but you are pushing tchill for p much the same reasoning.- Quick
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That’s fair. I know I don’t have a lot content-wise yet, and I honestly don’t expect anyone who knows me to be able to read me one way or the other yet. I can kinda get Vecna’s scumread on me because my playstyle this game is one that’s usually scumread by people who don’t know me. I hate Mastina’s scumread on me because I would think by now she should know better than to read my by how much I’m posting instead of what I’m actually saying, but I don’t think it’s necessarily scummy of her to be wrong in that regard.In post 863, Quick wrote:
Yeah, I get what you are saying here. It's a true statement. However, I don't really think you have demonstrated taking the game seriously yet. I get you are more of a "serious player" but I haven't really seen you do anything yet.In post 862, Alchemist21 wrote:Combine that with a chunk of players not taking the game so seriously because of the nature of the setup and I’m not surprised at the difficulty of getting good reads here.- Quick
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Honestly, after an ISO of you I don't get ANY of the SRs on you.In post 867, Alchemist21 wrote:
That’s fair. I know I don’t have a lot content-wise yet, and I honestly don’t expect anyone who knows me to be able to read me one way or the other yet. I can kinda get Vecna’s scumread on me because my playstyle this game is one that’s usually scumread by people who don’t know me. I hate Mastina’s scumread on me because I would think by now she should know better than to read my by how much I’m posting instead of what I’m actually saying, but I don’t think it’s necessarily scummy of her to be wrong in that regard.In post 863, Quick wrote:
Yeah, I get what you are saying here. It's a true statement. However, I don't really think you have demonstrated taking the game seriously yet. I get you are more of a "serious player" but I haven't really seen you do anything yet.In post 862, Alchemist21 wrote:Combine that with a chunk of players not taking the game so seriously because of the nature of the setup and I’m not surprised at the difficulty of getting good reads here.- Quick
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I believe you were in a game I was in. One game is moot but I have played with you before. I was in a hydra with someone in that game so you might not know that I was in that game.
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I saw both trying to wade through with some thoughts and questions. I didn't see anything that stood out and some post I read looked as lost as I felt just trying to get a feel for this game and it's chaos.In post 861, Quick wrote:
Can you unpack this a bit? Dave is just being Dave from what I can see. alc is pretty much not doing anything really.In post 860, farside22 wrote:Dave and alchemist looked like how I feel.
Basically Alchemist said it best, but that is where I'm going.In post 863, Quick wrote:
Yeah, I get what you are saying here. It's a true statement. However, I don't really think you have demonstrated taking the game seriously yet. I get you are more of a "serious player" but I haven't really seen you do anything yet.In post 862, Alchemist21 wrote:Combine that with a chunk of players not taking the game so seriously because of the nature of the setup and I’m not surprised at the difficulty of getting good reads here.
Some people played with Alchemist, he is not an under the radar player. I remember a game he lurked a lot as scum and made some pretty weak cases until he was pushed. This game is just different and with 3 scums in the game, weeding through the shit storm, this game just gets that much more difficult to get reads on players.In post 867, Alchemist21 wrote:
That’s fair. I know I don’t have a lot content-wise yet, and I honestly don’t expect anyone who knows me to be able to read me one way or the other yet. I can kinda get Vecna’s scumread on me because my playstyle this game is one that’s usually scumread by people who don’t know me. I hate Mastina’s scumread on me because I would think by now she should know better than to read my by how much I’m posting instead of what I’m actually saying, but I don’t think it’s necessarily scummy of her to be wrong in that regard.In post 863, Quick wrote:
Yeah, I get what you are saying here. It's a true statement. However, I don't really think you have demonstrated taking the game seriously yet. I get you are more of a "serious player" but I haven't really seen you do anything yet.In post 862, Alchemist21 wrote:Combine that with a chunk of players not taking the game so seriously because of the nature of the setup and I’m not surprised at the difficulty of getting good reads here.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.- davesaz
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The only difference between this and what farside said was you mentioning the pressure.In post 857, Quick wrote:Okay. I feel like an honest answer would be something like, "I was getting a lot of pressure and decided to get off my ass and do something about it." but you do you I guess.
I don't think mentioning or not mentioning it has any bearing on honesty, and furthermore it's possible that farside doesn't feel pressure at this point anyway.A community that stifles dissent does not deserve the title of community- Quick
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This line doesn't really work with me because if the game is mountainous it's basically what it should be regarding EV.In post 872, farside22 wrote:Some people played with Alchemist, he is not an under the radar player. I remember a game he lurked a lot as scum and made some pretty weak cases until he was pushed. This game is just different and with 3 scums in the game, weeding through the shit storm, this game just gets that much more difficult to get reads on players. - Quick
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