Open 778: Nightless Vanilla [Game Over!]

[northsidegal]

Votecount 1.41

Target	Wagon
Cycle Men (6)	Deimos27 (588), humaneatingmonkey (902), Isis (904), Firebringer (1234), Green Crayons (1240), Elements (1245)
Elements (5)	Cycle Men (1002), Alisae (1021), NorwegianboyEE (1101), votato (1187), Albert B. Rampage (1251)
NorwegianboyEE (1)	Looker (456)
Not Voting (0)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2020-05-08 06:42:59).

[Isis]

I don't buy that he finds Ali, Me, and Isis scummy for building a NorwEE wagon, a person he scumreads, when he knows he's town. I don't believe he finds it scummy that I'm pressuring him to vote at 24 hours left in the day. If we're scum, we could have just mislynched him and it would have been easy. He would understand that. But what he did here? That's just not an organic progression.

Ok this is kinda good

[Alisae]

VOTE: alisae

lmao ur actually serious

[Isis]

Let's see what this flip teaches us

VOTE: Cycle Men

[Alisae]

Because I haven't seen anything Ali do to be vote-worthy, and I still read her town.

I'm pretty sure Alisae's 1128 is scum-indicative, and that's what ABR picked up on.

literally how

[humaneatingmonkey]

Let's see what this flip teaches us

VOTE: Cycle Men

psst...

you were already voting that

[Elements]

We do have an L-1 so why are you not voting?

[Elements]

or hammering rather, what changed your mind

[Isis]

shush monkey!

not really as Cycle Men was a slot that was very easy to hammer there as scum. there was a universal apathy towards the slot, we were nearing our deadline, and everyone wanted.

plus, he's not really worried to be lynched at L-1 as town?
and he thought there was scum on his wagon, but he didn't react to it then the way he did when he "activated" just now?

Now I'm curious if you're defending him because you're TMI or because you're his buddy. Because there's no way you're not looking at this and being a little skeptical.

i am a little skeptical. im just more skeptical in other places. no one has talked me into joining this wagon yet. i really think there are better options. Also, you've now convinced yourself that im scum no matter how he flips? tell me: why would scum!votato do something to draw that much attention to himself when scum is served by apathy and apathy lynches? I think you've tunneled really hard at this point. can you take a step back and try to reevaluate what town!clemency and town!votato might be up to here?

this gives me crawley "i'm scum but that's not why vibes"

like
I feel like scum request their detractors do worldbuilding sometimes
because they know the 1 or 2 things about the world they've made actually strange and are a little bit proud about it.

[Alisae]

Are people calling me scum because I wanna hammer something to make sure we have a lynch?
Lmao alright sure whatever

[Alisae]

Nothing changed my mind, Isis already beat me to the punch lmao

[humaneatingmonkey]

Alisae hammer now. Isis wasn't a hammer.

[Elements]

Are people calling me scum because I wanna hammer something to make sure we have a lynch?
Lmao alright sure whatever

But we have something you can hammer but you're not

[Albert B. Rampage]

Let's see what this flip teaches us

VOTE: Cycle Men

Are people calling me scum because I wanna hammer something to make sure we have a lynch?
Lmao alright sure whatever

It doesn't matter if we no lynch its nightless.

[Alisae]

Alisae hammer now. Isis wasn't a hammer.

oh
Ok
Got it
VOTE: cycle men

[Alisae]

Let's see what this flip teaches us

VOTE: Cycle Men

Are people calling me scum because I wanna hammer something to make sure we have a lynch?
Lmao alright sure whatever

It doesn't matter if we no lynch its nightless.

its still a lynch and its still information we can work with

[humaneatingmonkey]

ok lets see if i was very very wrong

[Alisae]

Like dude
Someone HAS to die
Yes we have no lynches but being right right now isn’t important
Its better to save the no lynches if we need them for the late game because in the late game its significantly more important to be right lmao

[Elements]

Let's see what this flip teaches us

VOTE: Cycle Men

Are people calling me scum because I wanna hammer something to make sure we have a lynch?
Lmao alright sure whatever

It doesn't matter if we no lynch its nightless.

we needed a lynch, it was bought about by it being the end of the day but it wasn't needed because it's the eod

[votato]

Spoiler:

Because I haven't seen anything Ali do to be vote-worthy, and I still read her town.

I'm pretty sure Alisae's 1128 is scum-indicative, and that's what ABR picked up on.

literally how

Let's see what this flip teaches us

VOTE: Cycle Men

psst...

you were already voting that

shush monkey!

does this read like ali and isis planned a fake-hammer in PT and HEM ruined it to anyone else?

[Elements]

no, i didn't point it out because it looked like a reaction test

[Alisae]

Cycle Men probably flips town and I think I saw Clemency actually try for once
Its sad but it had to be done

[Isis]

Let's see what this flip teaches us

VOTE: Cycle Men

Are people calling me scum because I wanna hammer something to make sure we have a lynch?
Lmao alright sure whatever

It doesn't matter if we no lynch its nightless.

3rd no lynch is a loss
I'm explicitly never considering the draw thing an "option" for the record, I think you should play to wincon

would like to see the condition called a scumwin but draw is possibly better for describing a quasi-abandoned game if that somehow happened

at 33% ev there's some pretty gross strategies "playing for rating" like, lynch 2 people, if neither flips scum immediately hammer no lynch 3 times, etc etc

[Isis]

can we lynch votato, this is the second time he's tried to clumsily fake town paranoia

[votato]

we dont need to "save" no-lynches. Theres a draw if there are three consecutively. As long as we Lynch someone in the first three days it resets. I really hope it doesnt take that long, but theres really no rush here.