Mini 2133: XP Mafia II (Game Over)


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Post Post #2000 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 12:07 pm

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VC 3.0
Not voting (10)- Pink Ball, Raya36, Pine, Ginngie, Creature, Alisae, Raven Branwen, Not Known 15, Hectic, Ame

With 10 alive it takes 6 to reach a majority.

Deadline is in (expired on 2020-05-17 20:00:00)

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Post Post #2001 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 12:11 pm

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I have trained last night. I have 2 xp.
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Post Post #2002 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 12:11 pm

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VOTE: raya
Time to get me my upgrade
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Post Post #2003 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 12:11 pm

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I already have my guess for last scum, but I want to see if we can lock in.
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Post Post #2004 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 12:12 pm

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Today, you must vote to put one of the following Public Mechanics into play:

[Lightning Rod]
During the night, any player may pay 2 XP to activate a lightning rod ability. If successful, all actions taken by other players will be redirected to the user. If multiple players attempt to do this in one night, the player who is latest in the player order in the OP will succeed. All other players will not pay the 2 XP.

[Quest Powerup]
All items received from the Quest mechanic, whether they have been given out yet or not, will become stronger.

[Pokerus]
Training yields 2 XP instead of 1.
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Post Post #2005 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 12:14 pm

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I think Pokerus is the best mechanic unless you want someone from the poe to take lightning rod every night
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Post Post #2006 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 12:22 pm

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VOTE: Quest Power
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Post Post #2007 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 12:23 pm

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I think we vote for the Quest Powerup because while I am alive we can go on quests and it will be super safe
Also I upgraded and there is literally no reason to sabotage me now
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Post Post #2008 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 12:34 pm

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So over the night I did an association analysis on Knightmare to see if it would get me anywhere so I figured I'd post it even though I'm not sure if it was very helpful. Maybe someone else will get something out of it?

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Mastina
-Massive townread on Hectic
-Hurt Lady Chloe
-Spring probtown
-Hectic > PB > spring for leader
-Calls Ginngie town
-townreads PB even though stated he's not out of his scumrange
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-Shade on Ginngie
-Against Spring and Farkset being partners
-Calls NK15 reaction fake
-Goes after ame when ame starts to question him
-NK15 now a town lean
-Scum between Ginngie and Lady Chloe
- Do you think it's likely Knight would point out his buddy is within these people? The 4 are Spring, FOC (town), Chloe, NK15. A couple posts later he says that one of Farksets posts looks like a soft defense of Chloe. So FOC (for sure) and Chloe are cleared I think. (But he does not go anywhere with his point about Chloe so maybe it's dissociation)
-Votes creature
-Votes Ali



Looking into alive players and their associations with knight/mastina::

Alisae:
-momo does not mention mastina
-Calls knightmare and me the team
-Likes the knightmare claim
-Intent to vote knightmare
-Votes knightmare
-PB's is a good point for associations

Ginngie:
-Wants us to kill mastina if he dies
-Honestly way too many mentions of mastina for them to be partners I think, especially based on his self-meta if that's true

Pink Ball:
-Called Mastina scum later in the game
-Pushed a for a knightmare lynch
-Very unlikely to be partners with Knight

Creature:
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-mastina RVS vote
-mastina low on list, later bottom of list
-admits to being biased against mastina
-Still low on list
creature
-Says mastina did nothing
-mastina looks bad
-Had knight as top town read?
-Votes Knightmare

Hectic:
-Mastina low on list
-Knight very low on list

Pine:
-mastina low town

ame:
-mastina fake town slip?
-hurt mastina
-associative scum read on mastina
-bad justification of mastina's vote
-hurt knight
-pushed knight/cases
-votes and unvotes knight then later revotes knight

Raven:
Spring
-Questioning of mastina
-Mastina top of null
Raven
-Votes Knightmare

NK15:
-Said if spring is scum then mastina is too
-Possibility of mastina coaching the spring vs farkset D1
-Voted for Knightmare
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Post Post #2009 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 12:35 pm

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In post 1997, Professor Moriarty wrote:
Sorry sorry!

I swear to God, somebody Discord me the next time I miss a deadline. :X

Nobody died Night 2.
My role is super useful. I watched Ame last night and was told he was targeted with a “miscellaneous” action. :lol:

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Post Post #2010 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 12:38 pm

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I don't see how Lightning Rod could be beneficial?

So it's between Quest Powerup or Pokerus.

I'm not sure what the demand is for XP right now. It's personally not important for my role but I'd be happy to consider Pokerus if the majority say that the increase in XP would be useful for them.
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Post Post #2011 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 12:38 pm

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In post 2009, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 1997, Professor Moriarty wrote:
Sorry sorry!

I swear to God, somebody Discord me the next time I miss a deadline. :X

Nobody died Night 2.
My role is super useful. I watched Ame last night and was told he was targeted with a “miscellaneous” action. :lol:

Only one.
I suppose it was the gift?
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Post Post #2012 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 12:40 pm

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I feel like scum chose to nokill so we gain nothing now
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Post Post #2013 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 12:43 pm

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I don't see why scum would no kill? Could it have to do with that gifting all xp to ame thing?
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Post Post #2014 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 12:43 pm

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In post 2011, Creature wrote:
In post 2009, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 1997, Professor Moriarty wrote:
Sorry sorry!

I swear to God, somebody Discord me the next time I miss a deadline. :X

Nobody died Night 2.
My role is super useful. I watched Ame last night and was told he was targeted with a “miscellaneous” action. :lol:

Only one.
I suppose it was the gift?
Ame will be able to confirm or deny this. But he’s a vig and he clearly didn’t vig anyone last night or else we’d have as stump and since no NK, perhaps he was jailkept?
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Post Post #2015 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 12:46 pm

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In post 2012, Creature wrote:I feel like scum chose to nokill so we gain nothing now
In post 2013, Raya36 wrote:I don't see why scum would no kill? Could it have to do with that gifting all xp to ame thing?
But Ame is a vig, being gifted wouldn’t stop HIS vig/stump abilities.
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Post Post #2016 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 12:49 pm

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I mean maybe scum didn't kill because they couldn't because they had no XP to perform the kill. Which could be tied in to whoever gifted ame all their xp. It was me and one or two other people who were supposed to I think?
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Post Post #2017 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 12:52 pm

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In post 0, Professor Moriarty wrote:
Mini 2133: XP Mafia II!

Moderators: Something_Smart and the worst

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Alive Players:

Spoiler:
Pink Ball
Raya36
Pine
Ginngie
Creature
Lady Chloe

Alisae
momo

Raven Branwen
springlullaby

Not Known 15
Hectic
Ame


Dead Players:

Spoiler:
Flight of the Conchords,
Town Lord
, killed Night 1
Farkset,
Mafia Watcher
, treestumped Night 1
Knightmare491
mastina
,
Mafia Teacher
, lynched Day 2


Public Mechanics Currently in Play:

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[Capture]
All players may vote to block another player using
Capture: Player
or HURT: Player. Once a majority is reached, the day ends and that player is captured. The captured player will be unable to take any actions (personal or factional, including Training) the following night, and if they are aligned with the Mafia, they will lose 1 XP.


[Quest]
During the day, any player may PM us to choose to join the quest. They may change their mind at any time. At the end of the day, if more than half of the living players have chosen to do so, the quest will succeed; otherwise, it will fail. If the quest succeeds, a PT will be created for the following night with all players who joined it, and during the first half of the night they must vote in that PT on one player on the quest to become the Leader, chosen by plurality. Then, the quest PT will be locked and the Leader will be shown an item which gives a special power, and the Leader must choose any other player on the quest to receive the item (they will be secretly informed that they received it and what it does). This does not count as an action. The Leader will also gain 1 XP, which can be used that night. Players participating in a Quest may still Train or take other night actions, as normal.
However, if the quest succeeds, the Mafia will learn who is on the quest and may choose one player on the quest to sabotage that night, preventing all actions they take and removing all XP they have. XP they spend or earn that night is not lost.


[Upgrade]
During any day or night, any player may PM us to spend some XP to upgrade their role. Each role has a different unique upgrade, and each role has an upgrade cost that is between 2 and 4 (and is known to the player). When a player upgrades during a phase, they will learn their new role at the end of that phase. Players who upgraded will flip with their upgraded role, but it will not be visible to rolecops.


[Disable Strongman]
The Mafia no longer have access to their 2 XP strongman ability.


[Gift]
During the night, any player may choose to give any amount of XP to another player. The person using this action loses that much XP, and the target gains that much. If the target dies that night, the action fails, but if the user dies, it succeeds.

[Lynch]
All players may vote to lynch another player using VOTE: Player or
Vote: Player
. Once a majority is reached, the day ends and that player dies.


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Post Post #2018 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 12:56 pm

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Right, the point was you can't be captured and kill or gift and kill
But my point still stands
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Post Post #2019 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 12:58 pm

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In post 2016, Raya36 wrote:I mean maybe scum didn't kill because they couldn't because they had no XP to perform the kill. Which could be tied in to whoever gifted ame all their xp. It was me and one or two other people who were supposed to I think?
Why didn’t Ame vig/stump anyone though?
You keep on talking about scum no kill but are not addressing Ame’s not vigging anyone last night. My results prove that someone other than me targeted him last night. Him not vigging points to some kind of likely jailkeep/roleblock, because why else would he fail to vig anyone last night otherwise?
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Post Post #2020 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 12:59 pm

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In post 2018, Raya36 wrote:Right, the point was you can't be captured and kill or gift and kill
But my point still stands
What about Ame? Some reason you have no theory about that?
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Post Post #2021 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 1:06 pm

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In post 1576, Ame wrote:
I will also claim now. I am the vig. I had two ways of activating the lynch mechanic: (1) successfully killing someone (in which they become a treestump)
, or (2) being killed. I claimed only the latter part yesterday to prevent scum from roleblocking me. Additionally, knowing I was the vig, I felt safe asking for the vig to shoot me. I originally was going to shoot you, and planned to for most of the day, until Farkset became a priority. My goal was to capture one scum member and shoot another, hence why once I decided I was going to shoot Farkran, I attempted to swing the capture to you
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Post Post #2022 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 1:08 pm

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I'm waiting for Ame to come and tell us what he knows before coming up with theories about him not shooting. So I'm focusing on the lack of night kill instead until Ame gets here
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Post Post #2023 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 1:17 pm

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In post 1879, Ame wrote:I think I'm settled in this. Raya please claim your current and starting XP before the day end. Raya and Knight, be sure to gift me your full XP.
Well, we know Ali claimed to need eir XP, so didn’t gift.
Raya claimed to have used up all of her XP, so didn’t gift.
Knight obviously didn’t, so unless anyone claims to gave gifted Ame last night, evidence would suggest that the “miscellaneous” action I was informed about, did not involve a gift.
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Post Post #2024 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 1:20 pm

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Maybe there's a protective role that protects against a vig shot?
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