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Post Post #1175 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 5:23 pm

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In post 1168, Tchill13 wrote:hoctac will more than likely never make a contribution that impacts the game.
Wrong. My solving power is actually unparalleled on this site. As I mentioned before, I like to take it easy at the start of the game.

Day 1, I have no information or flips to work with, so I'll be in cruise control, observing in the background.

Day 2, it's still pretty early and 99% of players will claim to have "reads" and "feelings" when in reality they might as well consult a random number generator for their reads which would probably be just as if not more accurate.

Day 3, there's been a few flips by now. I could maybe make one weak read, MAX two. We're getting somewhere.

Day 4, I might be able to make my first scumread. This depends on whether I'm a cop with a guilty though. If not, I'll probably have a townread at this point.

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Day 7, now THIS is where the fun begins. At this point the game will be cracked wide open for me with all the info. While most players will be scrambling to find some dumb solves that they think hold any ground, I'll hard ANALYSE and BREAK OPEN the thread, and come up with a scumsolve in a matter of days. I'm not kidding, this WILL happen if I'm alive on Day 7. I have a proven track record, and scum would be idiots to leave me alive until then.
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Post Post #1176 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 5:24 pm

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In post 1171, Tchill13 wrote:enough ppl have openly TR'd auro for me to be fine with that slot. I lean town there to begin with and it just seems like a general consensus atm.
After some thought I'm beginning to think it's good not to state stronger townreads? It just primes them for infection.
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Post Post #1177 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 5:24 pm

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...can someone give me a new avatar? This one spooks me.
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Post Post #1178 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 5:24 pm

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Tchill I think hoctac is a better option for reasons that if I were to explain them would probably make them not viable. I’m already voting there, as are a few others, so I think it’s a good wagon.
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Post Post #1179 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 5:27 pm

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In post 429, Saudade wrote:VOTE: mastina
i've never seen more transparent scum posting ever in my life
In post 561, Saudade wrote:
In post 496, 50 Judge Powers wrote:
In post 390, Saudade wrote:btw i didnt read the game/setup details, is this a scum vs town or scum vs town vs zombies(infected) or something?
Knew it! :facepalm: I actually thought about PMing the mod when I saw you sign in, but the jerk in me thought I shouldn't be a jerk about it (talk about oxymorons)

VOTE: Saudade

You can walk back to Vienna for all I care.
idk you
but that seems like an excuse to vote me(?)
In post 562, Saudade wrote:anyways mastina scum slipped when she asked whether this game is a joke/serious to mask her indecisiveness to post in this game only to then serious post for the next page
like 7 of 35ish posts is about a mastina scum slip, everything else is fluff.

they play with a bravado that seems like they're pretty experienced. I'd expect better play if they are the type im getting the vibes they are.

too much fluff. Started a wagon on what i would presume is one of the best players here (seen little to no sus of mastina b4 this)

doesnt sit right with me this early. If saudade is good you eliminate top threats as scum early. Fluff + (I FOUND SCUM SLIP)+ pushing a top scum threat early (if mastina is town) = scum
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Post Post #1180 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 5:29 pm

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In post 1175, Hoctac wrote:Day 1, I have no information or flips to work with, so I'll be in cruise control, observing in the background.

Day 2, it's still pretty early and 99% of players will claim to have "reads" and "feelings" when in reality they might as well consult a random number generator for their reads which would probably be just as if not more accurate.

Day 3, there's been a few flips by now. I could maybe make one weak read, MAX two. We're getting somewhere.

Day 4, I might be able to make my first scumread. This depends on whether I'm a cop with a guilty though. If not, I'll probably have a townread at this point.

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Day 7, now THIS is where the fun begins. At this point the game will be cracked wide open for me with all the info. While most players will be scrambling to find some dumb solves that they think hold any ground, I'll hard ANALYSE and BREAK OPEN the thread, and come up with a scumsolve in a matter of days. I'm not kidding, this WILL happen if I'm alive on Day 7. I have a proven track record, and scum would be idiots to leave me alive until then.
I agree with the overall sentiment but ive figured out a way im comfortable playing with the same mindset that you just stated while also trying to contribute to actual game play. To each their own I guess. I'll believe it when I see it.
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Post Post #1181 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 5:30 pm

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In post 1179, Tchill13 wrote:If saudade is good you eliminate top threats as scum early. Fluff + (I FOUND SCUM SLIP)+ pushing a top scum threat early (if mastina is town) = scum
I agree with this assessment but it requires that level of awareness, experience with mastina, and game experience overall. Do you believe a player having those qualities posts like saudade does? < genuine question, not rhetorical.
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Post Post #1182 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 5:31 pm

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Hoctac is still memeing, Tchill :P
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Post Post #1183 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 5:31 pm

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Is farside still null to you, Tchill? What do you think of her scum reading you?
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #1184 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 5:32 pm

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In post 1182, Auro wrote:Hoctac is still memeing, Tchill :P
:lol:

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Post Post #1185 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 5:32 pm

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In post 1180, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 1175, Hoctac wrote:Day 1, I have no information or flips to work with, so I'll be in cruise control, observing in the background.

Day 2, it's still pretty early and 99% of players will claim to have "reads" and "feelings" when in reality they might as well consult a random number generator for their reads which would probably be just as if not more accurate.

Day 3, there's been a few flips by now. I could maybe make one weak read, MAX two. We're getting somewhere.

Day 4, I might be able to make my first scumread. This depends on whether I'm a cop with a guilty though. If not, I'll probably have a townread at this point.

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Day 7, now THIS is where the fun begins. At this point the game will be cracked wide open for me with all the info. While most players will be scrambling to find some dumb solves that they think hold any ground, I'll hard ANALYSE and BREAK OPEN the thread, and come up with a scumsolve in a matter of days. I'm not kidding, this WILL happen if I'm alive on Day 7. I have a proven track record, and scum would be idiots to leave me alive until then.
I agree with the overall sentiment but ive figured out a way im comfortable playing with the same mindset that you just stated while also trying to contribute to actual game play. To each their own I guess. I'll believe it when I see it.
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Post Post #1186 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 5:32 pm

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Pushing top scum threats isn't gonna be a priority in a cult game.
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Post Post #1187 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 5:34 pm

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In post 1181, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Do you believe a player having those qualities posts like saudade does?
I believe that its a decent scum strat early.

I look for what has equity in scum motivation. Saudade has the most atm based on their actions. Enough for me to pause on running up hoctac.

Its not too calculated or just stupid. very right down the middle and i get the vibe theyre better than that as town which leads me to believe theyd look for a similar approach to what theyre doing as scum.
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Post Post #1188 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 5:35 pm

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In post 1177, Hoctac wrote:...can someone give me a new avatar? This one spooks me.
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Post Post #1189 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 5:37 pm

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Pretty likely scum is in the lurkers. We should be wagoning there.
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Post Post #1190 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 5:38 pm

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VOTE: Jake the Wolfie
VOTE: Creature
VOTE: mastina

I still think there is money here.
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Post Post #1191 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 5:40 pm

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In post 1160, Nero Cain wrote:"traps" and "reaction tests" are kinda low tier plays
O rly?

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Post Post #1192 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 5:41 pm

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In post 1191, Auro wrote:
In post 1160, Nero Cain wrote:"traps" and "reaction tests" are kinda low tier plays
O rly?

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Post Post #1193 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 5:42 pm

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In post 145, farside22 wrote:
In post 138, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 131, farside22 wrote:
In post 124, Alchemist21 wrote:Vecna’s tone feels off in most of his posts.

VOTE: Vecna
You know I'm going to want more from you then this as an explanation.
I’m not really sure how to explain it better. It just comes off as awkward and he was a little pockety towards Nero. I’m not confident on the read but I think it’s a better vote than anyone else so far.
I'll give you some breathing room, because I want to play with you, but I will be keeping an eye on you.
In post 139, Hoctac wrote:The Fire Alchemist was a lot cooler than this new guy you have, Alchemist. My townread is slipping.
vote: Hoctac
In post 151, farside22 wrote:
In post 142, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 140, farside22 wrote:I have no clue how you get hesitant to take a side when I said I see you both as town.
y r they both town?
ML read like she really thought she caught scum. She was pushing on EtL to get to see what he did. She actively pushed her point and I don't see that coming from scum.
EtL is more of a gut read from the interaction. I get the buzzwords looking scummy because I have thought that in the past when someone uses ms lingo to create a case.
They just both read as though they both are right about what they are saying and neither one looks like they were hiding or taking time to say what there thoughts were.
I don't see too many times scum being reactionary this early.
In post 184, farside22 wrote:
In post 39, Auro wrote:
In post 30, Vecna wrote:Or, you know, we can just be coronabuddies
Wouldn't infecting each other mean we are then coronabuddies
Nero Cain wrote:What if ETL/Miss Lynch is just TvT and scum Vecna is sitting back and just trying to encourage it? was p odd.
Vecna/Nero Cain TvT and I encourage it!
Auro: im still wanting an explanation about you town read here.
In post 352, farside22 wrote:
In post 351, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:what are the chances momo 5G and mastina are the scums? Confirmed but not posted...?
I heard mastina was having internet issues.
Whats your thought on hotoc?
He's got the vi read for me.
In post 702, farside22 wrote:okay had coffee, woke up and thought about this game. It isn't normal. I came at this as scum hunting, looking for scum and trying to find things that pinged me like normal.
The issue is that many players are playing really weird. There is a number of them that just do whatever and don't care.
I realized with scum infecting players that just acting out leaves no room for a good read and I thought why wouldn't scum do that? Hide amoung those that do nothing.
So I got my list together; did some iso and would lynch among the following:

Hotac, 5G, Jake the Wolf (actively lurking) Flavor Leaf, Tchill (This one has more of my attention because I see he has serious comment but then votes are not matching reads and he follows wagons).

No read: Ari, momo (probably needs to be replaced as I didn't see he was posting anywhere), 50 Judge
In post 908, farside22 wrote:
In post 906, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 875, Alchemist21 wrote:She’s coming back to the site after being away for years and people back then usually gave reasons for their votes instead of wagoning for wagoning’s sake so it makes sense to me that she’s be thrown off and all the loose votes being thrown around. I’m not even sure she was active back when spamposting was a huge issue
Does this apply to her since this is NOT her first game back. And ppl have been blindly sheeping since as long as mafia has been around so I don't really feel like thats a valid excuse for her to "thrown off"

I mostly agree with Quick that your wagon seems random and reasonless but this was kinda :igmeou: I thought
This game has way more blind sheeping then normal.
Lots more moving votes and shit posting. People saying something mastina said looked scummy, which I disagree with, while players pile on votes.
So then i think, am I in crazy town? Is it me?
I think these are all town indicative post.

I usually give ppl a pass for scum reading me early (sometimes I even TR them for it as I've become pretty aware of my play as either alignment) and I think it's understandable. We're in early game. She voted hoctac for memeing but seeing a reason for a new push (fair reasoning imo, but you can also view my early play as actual scum hunting, theres different perspectives) she voted me but then she even EXPLAINS that shes getting village idiot vibes from hoctac.

So I can easily see her voting me if she wanted to make a new push on someone new but also wanted to move off hoctac.
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Post Post #1194 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 5:42 pm

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Can you summarize why Mastina is scummy, again?
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Post Post #1195 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 5:42 pm

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In post 1187, Tchill13 wrote:i get the vibe theyre better than that as town
Hmm. I guess this just isn’t enough for me. Hoctac is at least posting some things that are game related and people are reacting to them which will be useful post-flip.
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Post Post #1196 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 5:43 pm

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In post 1189, Auro wrote:Pretty likely scum is in the lurkers. We should be wagoning there.
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Post Post #1197 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 5:44 pm

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I don't disagree about Saudade being a lurker, but I think he's a better lynch at a later day rather than today for ~reasons~.
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Post Post #1198 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 5:44 pm

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In post 1196, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 1189, Auro wrote:Pretty likely scum is in the lurkers. We should be wagoning there.
"screams Suaded louder"
Okay...

VOTE: Saudad
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Post Post #1199 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2020 5:45 pm

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In post 1189, Auro wrote:Pretty likely scum is in the lurkers. We should be wagoning there.
Bah. What will we get from it though? That’s the problem. If we’re gonna lynch a lurky person t should be one that has had other people discussing it. Otherwise we really get nothing.
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