Mini Normal 2135 (Endgame)

Tanner · Post Post #950 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2020 12:10 am

Are you sure it was inevitable? popo had only 2 votes on him at the time.

UnaBombaH · Post Post #951 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2020 12:23 am

Food for thought: assume popopopo is scum fakeclaiming - how did they know georgebailey didn't go anywhere N1?

UnaBombaH · Post Post #952 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2020 12:26 am

I'm trying to weight the pros and cons in my head.

Persivul · Post Post #953 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2020 12:28 am

In post 950, Tanner wrote:Are you sure it was inevitable? popo had only 2 votes on him at the time.

Yeah I was just looking at that myself. Here's the context:

popo (2) - Tanner, mavs
prana (2) - pers, knightmare
pers (2) - prana, popo
With george not voting.

VOTE: 852 I pressure George - George is probably scum. He hasn't posted yet today, but he's been on yesterday and today.

He votes in his next post. So, no, inevitable was the wrong word. Important thing though is to look at the (lack of) progression in all of his votes. mavs is hanging too much on that one post. This guy is scum.

Persivul · Post Post #954 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2020 12:29 am

In post 951, UnaBombaH wrote:Food for thought: assume popopopo is scum fakeclaiming - how did they know georgebailey didn't go anywhere N1?

NICE - I was getting to that as well.

Persivul · Post Post #955 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2020 12:31 am

They have to be scum together. Otherwise, popo would have chosen someone who's now dead for the N1 result.

Tanner · Post Post #956 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2020 12:31 am

Oooh, that's spicy. Is this where I play devil's advocate?

pedit: pros and cons? also these were @una

@Persi, perhaps. You'd put him as the third with Prana, or?

ppedit: damn, y'all post a lot.

Persivul · Post Post #957 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2020 12:32 am

In post 951, UnaBombaH wrote:Food for thought: assume popopopo is scum fakeclaiming - how did they know georgebailey didn't go anywhere N1?

Hold it - scum tracker is a thing too, so no, the George association isn't a hard scum point. But George is scum nonetheless.

Persivul · Post Post #958 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2020 12:33 am

In post 956, Tanner wrote:@Persi, perhaps. You'd put him as the third with Prana, or?

Yes.

mavsfan41 · Post Post #959 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2020 12:34 am

In post 951, UnaBombaH wrote:Food for thought: assume popopopo is scum fakeclaiming - how did they know georgebailey didn't go anywhere N1?

Popopop said Luca tracked George N1. Popopopo replaced that slot so one would assume they would be privileged to know the results of Luca’s N1 actions.

Tanner · Post Post #960 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2020 12:35 am

In post 957, Persivul wrote:
In post 951, UnaBombaH wrote:Food for thought: assume popopopo is scum fakeclaiming - how did they know georgebailey didn't go anywhere N1?
Hold it - scum tracker is a thing too, so no, the George association isn't a hard scum point. But George is scum nonetheless.

I was about to say that, technically a scum Vanilla Cop is a thing too.

Tanner · Post Post #961 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2020 12:35 am

In post 959, mavsfan41 wrote:
In post 951, UnaBombaH wrote:Food for thought: assume popopopo is scum fakeclaiming - how did they know georgebailey didn't go anywhere N1?
Popopop said Luca tracked George N1. Popopopo replaced that slot so one would assume they would be privileged to know the results of Luca’s N1 actions.

If popo is

scum fakeclaiming Tracker.

Persivul · Post Post #962 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2020 12:37 am

Oh, and note that I'm not

putting

him on. Those three have been my scum team for some time. See 879. Now this desperate play by popo to get rid of me, and George jumping right on? I mean I'd almost flip myself at this point just to prove the point and get them all lynched.

UnaBombaH · Post Post #963 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2020 12:39 am

In post 957, Persivul wrote:
In post 951, UnaBombaH wrote:Food for thought: assume popopopo is scum fakeclaiming - how did they know georgebailey didn't go anywhere N1?
Hold it - scum tracker is a thing too, so no, the George association isn't a hard scum point. But George is scum nonetheless.

That's why it's food for thought and not an outright mistake.

I'm also considering whether Town!Tracker-LucaBlight would've checked George N1...I guess it's more likely than scum!Luca tracking town!George?

Tanner · Post Post #964 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2020 12:40 am

In post 962, Persivul wrote:Oh, and note that I'm not
putting
him on. Those three have been my scum team for some time. See 879. Now this desperate play by popo to get rid of me, and George jumping right on? I mean I'd almost flip myself at this point just to prove the point and get them all lynched.

Apologies, that was the wrong word to use. I meant it along the lines of "are they your current solve?"

Tanner · Post Post #965 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2020 12:43 am

In post 963, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 957, Persivul wrote:
In post 951, UnaBombaH wrote:Food for thought: assume popopopo is scum fakeclaiming - how did they know georgebailey didn't go anywhere N1?
Hold it - scum tracker is a thing too, so no, the George association isn't a hard scum point. But George is scum nonetheless.
That's why it's food for thought and not an outright mistake.

I'm also considering whether Town!Tracker-LucaBlight would've checked George N1...I guess it's more likely than scum!Luca tracking town!George?

I think he would? I remember Luca saying he suspects George.

UnaBombaH · Post Post #966 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2020 12:45 am

In post 952, UnaBombaH wrote:I'm trying to weight the pros and cons in my head.

If we lynch Persivul today, we could still potentially get more results from a Tracker. (as in - believe popopopopo = scum-Persivul)

If we lynch popopopo today, we basically force scum to kill Persivul/mavs, and we still have one rather-easy-to-believe townslot left. (as in - believe Persivul = scum-popopopo).

mavsfan41 · Post Post #967 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2020 12:45 am

In post 957, Persivul wrote:
In post 951, UnaBombaH wrote:Food for thought: assume popopopo is scum fakeclaiming - how did they know georgebailey didn't go anywhere N1?
Hold it - scum tracker is a thing too, so no, the George association isn't a hard scum point. But George is scum nonetheless.

I don’t understand this. Popopopo wouldn’t be a scum tracker.

In post 936, Persivul wrote:
In post 892, popopopopopopo wrote:i tracked persivul last night, he visited eve
Scum claim. I went nowhere last night. I can't.

Persivul is claiming he went nowhere. That would mean scum!Popopopo is lying about even being a tracker and trying to frame Persivul with a fake claim/fake results. If Persivul is town and is telling the truth about going nowhere, that would mean Popopo isn’t even a tracker let alone a scum tracker. Sure, sure, they could be a scum tracker who did track George N1 and tracked someone else N2 OTHER than Persivul and is trying to frame Persivul but I just don’t see it.

I think the acknowledgment of Popopopo being a scum tracker at the same time of Perisvul saying he didn’t go anywhere last night is awkward af rather than just straight up calling Popopopo a liar.

Also, I agree that George not going anywhere doesn’t necessarily clear him, but scum!Persivul pushing George in this scenario I think would clear George if Persivul flips scum.

Persivul · Post Post #968 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2020 12:45 am

Consider the tracker possibilities if you like, but they don't really matter. Today's lynch is me or popo, either way popo is caught scum. George's popo vote with contradictory reasoning, followed by the instant flip to me makes him scum. So even if I'm lynched it comes down to a 2:1 lylo, which I don't think scum win.

UnaBombaH · Post Post #969 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2020 12:46 am

I mean, I REALLY don't think popoppoopppo has played today like a Tracker with a hard guilty on someone.

Tanner · Post Post #970 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2020 12:47 am

In post 966, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 952, UnaBombaH wrote:I'm trying to weight the pros and cons in my head.
If we lynch Persivul today, we could still potentially get more results from a Tracker. (as in - believe popopopopo = scum-Persivul)

If we lynch popopopo today, we basically force scum to kill Persivul/mavs, and we still have one rather-easy-to-believe townslot left. (as in - believe Persivul = scum-popopopo).

Well, even if this is scum!Persi and town!popo, and we lynch Persi today, I think popo just gets shot tonight. There wouldn't be any more results from him.

UnaBombaH · Post Post #971 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2020 12:48 am

But I do think town really should have SOME more power.
Hence, I do not want anyone counterclaiming popopopopo, and giving scum a freebie-kill on a PR.

Persivul · Post Post #972 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2020 12:48 am

In post 966, UnaBombaH wrote:If we lynch popopopo today, we basically force scum to kill Persivul/mavs, and we still have one rather-easy-to-believe townslot left. (as in - believe Persivul = scum-popopopo).

I hadn't thought of that. Unless you think me/popo is scum theater, then lynching popo today conftowns me, which in turn conftowns mavs.

UnaBombaH · Post Post #973 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2020 12:48 am

In post 970, Tanner wrote:Well, even if this is scum!Persi and town!popo, and we lynch Persi today, I think popo just gets shot tonight. There wouldn't be any more results from him.

I'm doing my best to save this situation, let's not give them anything more.

UnaBombaH · Post Post #974 (ISO) » Fri May 08, 2020 12:49 am

In post 972, Persivul wrote:
In post 966, UnaBombaH wrote:If we lynch popopopo today, we basically force scum to kill Persivul/mavs, and we still have one rather-easy-to-believe townslot left. (as in - believe Persivul = scum-popopopo).
I hadn't thought of that.
Unless you think me/popo is scum theater
, then lynching popo today conftowns me, which in turn conftowns mavs.

My thoughts are in bold. Can't believe you brought it up yourself in a moment like this..