Open 778: Nightless Vanilla [Game Over!]

[northsidegal]

Votecount 2.2

Target	Wagon
Alisae (2)	Elements (1319), humaneatingmonkey (1347)
votato (1)	Firebringer (1337)
Albert B. Rampage (1)	Looker (1343)
Looker (1)	Albert B. Rampage (1345)
Not Voting (6)	votato, Alisae, Deimos27, Green Crayons, Isis, NorwegianboyEE

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. The Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2020-05-14 18:29:59).

[Firebringer]

bro what are you doing

I agree.

ABR its time to step up and show us your alignment. Done with the free pass, you got to work to get townread now.

Do something genuine.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Firebringer, have you made a conscious effort to change your playstyle recently?

[Firebringer]

I don't think I am playing this game any different. Except for when I gave reads to ABR

[humaneatingmonkey]

what made you decide that?

[Firebringer]

I was in a really good mood. Just got done with running.

[Isis]

I'm 110% sure Firebringer is lying and he knew I was here and wanted to impress me, and he was successful

[Isis]

i mean he was probably also in a good mood but it's fun to call him lying scum

[Firebringer]

i mean he was probably also in a good mood but it's fun to call him lying scum

it is, isn't it?

[humaneatingmonkey]

VOTE: ABR

[Elements]

I was just wondering why scum!alisea hammers cycle there. I think e realised e's backed into a corner with views on cycle and I and eir deceleration to hammer whatever got to L-1. Whoever was lyched e'd have to "re-evaluate" eir entire readlist but the hammer on Cycle maybe gives some town cred because cycle was scum. I think whatever alignment Ali has to hammer there though.

Spoiler:

lmao thats unlucky for me

LAMIST

im not scum and i feel like if I was scum with Clemency here, he doesn't try to align himself with Norwee when Norwee thinks that I'm cordinating votes on him. That whole interaction just doesn't make sense.

pointing out of a plan to distance?

Later I will take a look at votecounts and stuff but I think if we look at votecounts we should be able to find a 2nd one

"town effort"

also in general we have a lot more room to mislynch now so thats the good news

LAMIST

I think I'm more confident about votata right now

VOTE: votato

[Elements]

VOTE: ABR

I can see this

[humaneatingmonkey]

ABR, Alisae, votato all looks red to me right now. Although I'm wrong about at least one.

[humaneatingmonkey]

If ABR doesn't give us something to work with soon, I think we're forced to work with his flip.

[Elements]

Atm I don't think we lose anything gamesolveing wise from an ABR flip at all

[humaneatingmonkey]

vote ABR with me

[Elements]

VOTE: ABR

[Alisae]

I was just wondering why scum!alisea hammers cycle there. I think e realised e's backed into a corner with views on cycle and I and eir deceleration to hammer whatever got to L-1. Whoever was lyched e'd have to "re-evaluate" eir entire readlist but the hammer on Cycle maybe gives some town cred because cycle was scum. I think whatever alignment Ali has to hammer there though.

Spoiler:

lmao thats unlucky for me

LAMIST

im not scum and i feel like if I was scum with Clemency here, he doesn't try to align himself with Norwee when Norwee thinks that I'm cordinating votes on him. That whole interaction just doesn't make sense.

pointing out of a plan to distance?

Later I will take a look at votecounts and stuff but I think if we look at votecounts we should be able to find a 2nd one

"town effort"

also in general we have a lot more room to mislynch now so thats the good news

LAMIST

I think I'm more confident about votata right now

VOTE: votato

what the fuck you’d expect me to do?

[Alisae]

ABR, Alisae, votato all looks red to me right now. Although I'm wrong about at least one.

what the fuck

[Alisae]

Why am I red

[humaneatingmonkey]

i'll save that for later because i want to focus on abr.

[Deimos27]

Cycle Men was lynched. He was a

Mafia Goon

.

Hellz
to the Yeez
I feel validated

I'm relatively convinced Crayons is town now. Norwegian might just be town too.
AMA

[Deimos27]

Because I haven't seen anything Ali do to be vote-worthy, and I still read her town.

I'm pretty sure Alisae's 1128 is scum-indicative, and that's what ABR picked up on.

literally how

Let me walk you through it.
The town motivation you list for town!Alisae for voting a townread is that you get info on the accuracy of your reads.
You gain the exact same info from lynching a scumread. The player either flips the way you thought or they don't.
Lynching your townreads is playing against town win con.

The motivation for scum!Alisae was there regardless of Clemency's alignment.
If he's town, you want to lock in the mislynch.
If he's scum, by the time he's L-1 at this stage it's likely he's getting lynched anyway and you want to get the towncred.

[Deimos27]

VOTE: ABR L-2
I'm agreed that this slot is the first priority for pressure at this point.

@ABR, if you were so convinced that Clemency was town, why didn't you state why and try to convince someone to swing Elements? You had potential influence there considering how many players have expressed respect for you.

[humaneatingmonkey]

I'm also curious why Firebringer and Isis bussed and not Alisae.