Jigsaw's Revenge - Game Over

[Bingle]

It's the discussion on literally this page. It is an accurate claim.

[Vecna]

I already felt slimy even trying it with bingle

my nemesis, how you doing

[Vecna]

Anyways, I feel even better letting that shit live at least for today, because instead of iDanny the slot is now occupied by Bingle, which is an actual big threat if he is a town copper

[Vecna]

but then again, that replace out was so dodgy

[Eddie Cane]

I've never played with Bingle. Is he polarized?

[Bingle]

You have, Eddie. I'm a public Jingle alt.

[Bingle]

I think our last game together was smith's cop mafia tho, so it's been a while.

[Bingle]

tl;dr

Not great at getting townread as town, but if I last long enough I frequently blow open setups. I'm hit-and-miss as mafia, but when I hit it tends to be spectacular. Vastly more useful mechanically than reads wise, but I'm not awful at late game reads and I'm usually pretty good at listening to people with a better handle of the game than me.

Most of the people in this list have a fairly positive opinion of my play, so Vecna's comment isn't undeserved.

[Bingle]

Give scum the hard choice of whether they wanna let him live for another 2 nights

With the current pace of night kills, unless I'm miscounting tomorrow is lylo if we mislynch today...

Press X to Doubt.

2 myslynches to MYLO is insane balance wise, and a two shot vig died last night, so presumably we have fewer KPN now. I'm not sure why you even say this.

[Bingle]

Any chance I can get access to the consensus reads list and the most recent claims list?

Dave's in the game so the latter exists. I'd be shocked if there weren't reads lists on a 100 page game.

[Morning Tweet]

Scum gets to rig 5 traps tonight, rather than 3, as a result of me surviving

So there's going to be 8 traps in the next two nights

We're currently 10 vs. 4, scum wins if they can kill 6 town. The traps are kinda unreliable but so far have roughly a 2/3 chance to kill? Maybe 1/2 i havent reviewed the exact survival rate

[Eddie Cane]

You have, Eddie. I'm a public Jingle alt.

Oh. Then yes, you're good at mafia. No, you're not very polarized.

Give scum the hard choice of whether they wanna let him live for another 2 nights

With the current pace of night kills, unless I'm miscounting tomorrow is lylo if we mislynch today...

Press X to Doubt.

2 myslynches to MYLO is insane balance wise, and a two shot vig died last night, so presumably we have fewer KPN now. I'm not sure why you even say this.

4v10

Night 1 there was 3 kp. Night 2 there was 2. Scum get 2 additional traps from MT. Lynch to 9, average 2 kills to 7. lynch to 6, average 2 kills to 4, 4:4 game over. It is possible there will be less night kills n4 (1), but its also possible there will be 3 tonight with the extra traps. I don't understand how this concept is complicated.

[Eddie Cane]

Any chance I can get access to the consensus reads list and the most recent claims list?

Dave's in the game so the latter exists. I'd be shocked if there weren't reads lists on a 100 page game.

I posted a reads list 2 or so pages ago, MT did about 5 pages ago. I'm a replace in so mine matters less, and MT is extremely town imo so his reads are a good starting point. MT is a widely town read slot who thinks ABR is very town, and BM is a widely town read slot who thinks ABR is scum, but most other reads are fairly consensus.

[Morning Tweet]

@Bingle

2507 contains my reads, which isn't exactly consensus but a lot of them are close. Heres a more accurate list of consensus reads:

VaultDweller is widely seen as an innocent child, as confirmed by Vecna
BattleMage is very widely thought to be town
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Vecna is typically a town lean for his d1 play and as a combination with his claim
GeorgeBailey-EddieCain I'd say is town lean for most, null for some. George didn't post too much but he feels aligned with town meta. Eddie also seems town
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GuiltyLion and Gamma Emerald are usually null-to-town
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Albert Rampage is probably the most controversially read player in the game and i can't give a consensus read for him. Originally he took on more of a town leader role thru d1-d2, along with Battle Mage. I personally think ABR is more likely to be town, but quite a few players (BM, Gamma, pisskop, someone else) have expressed great concern towards ABR today.
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Pisskop, Davesaz are very much in the null area. Blake could be put here or one tier below
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BBMolla and Drixx received more heat the above nulls. Nothing solidly scummy but are typically expressed closer to scum (i think)
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iDanyboy-Bingle is scumread by every player in the game as far as I know and is only being kept alive due to his claim

[Bingle]

Has anyone described the trap process? Do we know what that involves?

Can someone explain to me why they're wagoning ABR after what looks like a pretty solid not a bus from ABR in a three person hood with momo? That should pretty much make him town, right?

[Bingle]

Oh,

UNVOTE:

[Morning Tweet]

TLDR: ABR didn't really push momo, he more switched off of Hectic to momo after momo came under substantial pressure. ABR says that the wagon on Hectic was a facade to see who would join it, and the plan was to pivot to momo all along (because he figured that momo was the scum in his hood)

BM now finds ABR scummy for 10,000 separate reasons that ill let him explain himself

[Morning Tweet]

Here's how the games work:

After the day ends, some people are immediately grabbed and thrown into private threads. Sometimes by themselves, sometimes they're put into rooms with other players.

They are faced with a choice. In the case of Hectic, Pine, and farside, one of {Pine, farside} had to sacrifice themself to save Hectic, OR let Hectic die.

In the case of my game, I had to choose either to escape the trap but give scum +2 traps the next night OR sacrifice myself.

The games always seem to get people killed. Elsa Jay played a trap night one. He died, so we don't know what happened. But the result of his trap was: "Due to a choice Elsa Jay made, Elsa Jay and Hectic died!". Some traps must have choices that are so deadly that you have to choose to kill yourself and a fellow townie rather than face whatever the other option is.

[Bingle]

Is this more or less accurate? I got this from mod ISO and a single BB post, so... Fleshing out would be appreciated.

Police Hood:

Hectic

Farside22

Bingle

GE

Drixx
VD
Dave
EC

Survivor Hood:

momo

Pine

ABR

FBI Hood:

Pine

No Hood:

A50

BBmolla

Xtoxm

Guilty Lion


Unspecified Hood:

PK
BM
Vecna
MT
FB

Death By Trap:

N1

Pine

->

Farside22

and

Hectic

EJ

->

EJ

; Battle Mage

Hectic

->

EJ

N2

farside22

->

farside22

GL and MT made nothing happen. How?
What was BM's Choice?
Did farside go into the choice she made N1?

[Albert B. Rampage]

BM is in survivors.
Pine is in both survivors and police.

[Bingle]

Oh, BM is in Survivor hood. missed that earlier.

Looking for BM and Pine's reactions to ABR's claim circa 1325 now.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Pine died before he saw my claim and BM thought it was scummy I claimed VT to him and Pine on n1.

[SirCakez]

Ircher replaces Gamma Emerald!

[Ircher]

I am totally not reading 100+ pages. Someone give me a summary/cliff notes.

[Morning Tweet]

We're doing that RN Ircher

Blake-Firebringer and I are members of the FBI hood with Pine.

GL used his character's ability (Jill Tuck) to disable his trap.

I chose to break the glass of the box and escape it

Farside said that Pine chose to sacrifice himself to save Hectic N1. It didnt matter though.