mini 2140: partition (this is over)

[clidd]

"

Scum in 1-1-1 would specifically want groups 1 > 3 > 2 to be lynched in that order.

"

Why ?

Lynching group 1 would instantly win scum the game

I guess the difference between groups 2 and 3 aren't

that

big, but group 3 would mean eliminating an extra townie compared to group 2.

"

Forget the specific partition for a second, I've noticed that you've basically explained away scum!Albert in every configuration and it doesn't make sense to me. For instance, in the case where the groups are 2-1-0, you say this configuration is too risky for scum in group 2 because group 3 players don't seem "weak verbally." The players in group 3 aren't any stronger/townier than the players in group 2. In fact, I would say the players in group 3 are probably the least known players in the list and have already been attracting a lot of scrutiny

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Do you consider Albert to be a verbally strong player ?

I haven't played with him, but based on what I've seen so far, I think he's lynchbaity than the players in group 3 if that's what you mean. He has proposed that we lynch group 1 and at least two people are townreading him for it

Ok, thanks.

[clidd]

a haiku about clidd

clidd, the detective
he takes a sip of his tea
it’s quite delicious

im not sure if the last line is cheating or not

That's beautiful. Change "his tea" to "coffee" and it'd be perfect (clidd's a huge fan).

VOTE: Group 2

You have earned my vote.

I had a flash back from Hectic with a sheep on Doctor Drew's vote months ago.

[clidd]

Do you have any completed scumgames dsjstr?

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?t=81962
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=82403

Another proof.

[Ame]

^Scum theatre

[Albert B. Rampage]

Lynching group 1 would instantly win scum the game

Madness. You are scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

all 3 scum are in group 1 and will fight tooth and nail to avoid instantly losing.

[clidd]

Hang on a minute, I just realised why there's probably 2 or 3 scum in group 1. Everyone (as far as I'm aware) in group 1 are good at looking like town and don't get lynched very often.

In group 3, Mohab has said he gets scumread a lot. Doro is usually scumread (even though he's obvtown), and enomis I have a feeling is made of the same cut, given how he's entered strangely with this whole demotivated thing. Should metacheck him.

clidd doesn't really get lynched however. And Albert is a wildcard I guess, but definitely wouldn't call him lynchbait. BUT, they are exactly the sort of players that would have the confidence to put themselves in a smaller group and pull that off as scum. In fact, I think scum have done their homework and have put them both in group 2 so that we fall into the trap of thinking that.

Conclusion: Either, there's 2 scum in G1 with 1 being in G2. Or they're all in G1.

This narrative has no cohesion, in my opinion. Scum!Clidd would have placed himself in the larger group, for valuing his life more expressively than all the others in the mafia. Group 2 was probably shaped to make my elimination from the game possible, while group 3 is a bottomless wifom pit.

[clidd]

^Scum theatre

I haven't seen you provide an argumentative particle to your vote. I'm not townreading your debauchery.

[clidd]

YES HOCTAC ILY!! (*≧∀≦*)

I am in total agreement with that assessment

Hum.

[clidd]

all 3 scum are in group 1 and will fight tooth and nail to avoid instantly losing.

I found the progression in the last pages strange, especially after the post 299. I still have a higher scumread on group 3, but I believe scenario (3)(0)(0) is possible, although my reads point to either (2)(0)(1) or (1)(0)(2).

[Albert B. Rampage]

1-0-2 makes zero sense.

[Albert B. Rampage]

its 2-0-1 or 3-0-0.

[Hoctac]

Hoc, who haven't you played with or "read up on?" on your main account. Ongoing games are irrelevant to this question.

Pregame, I did research on everyone but Daenerys and Dragons, enomis, and Mohab.

This is my main account. Would be a little silly to have an alt not even a month into the site!

[Hoctac]

YES HOCTAC ILY!! (*≧∀≦*)

I am in total agreement with that assessment

Let's nuke ourselves together...

I'm going to gather my reads on everyone in Group 1 first actually.

UNVOTE: Group 2(?)

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I start to wonder why did mafia put 8 players in group 1, 2 players in group 2, and 3 players in group 3. It takes 7 to hammer and there's no way group 1 will get hammered by the other groups for not having enough players. Mafia want to avoid getting lynched which will be more likely there is definitely scum in group 1.

VOTE: Group 1

How many scum do you think are in group 1 and why?

Do you have any reads

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I think Adorable is scum

But I’m still not endorsing a lynch on group 1

[Raya36]

I think Adorable is scum

But I’m still not endorsing a lynch on group 1

What makes you think Adorable is scum?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I think Adorable is scum

But I’m still not endorsing a lynch on group 1

What makes you think Adorable is scum?

Just read her ISO

It doesn’t have anything besides bad justification for voting group 1 (yes there’s almost certainly scum in group 1 but the real question is how many?) and an OMGUS on MT that was reachy and unjustified

I think she’d be doing a lot more as town

[Daenerys and Dragons]

@ABR, are you townreading clidd and why?

- Daenerys

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Lynching group 1 would instantly win scum the game

Madness. You are scum.

The context for what I said was,

“If scum put 1 scum into each group, then lynching group 1 would be an instant win for scum.”

Why is this a scummy thing to say?

all 3 scum are in group 1 and will fight tooth and nail to avoid instantly losing.

You can’t instantly lose as town if all 3 scum are in group 1, no matter which group you lynch

Conversely you can instantly lose as town if you lynch group 1 and the partitions are 1-1-1

[Albert B. Rampage]

You can’t instantly lose as town if all 3 scum are in group 1, no matter which group you lynch

You're not reading what I'm writing!

SCUM INSTANTLY LOSES IF WE LYNCH GROUP 1

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I misread that mb

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Who’s scum in group 1?

[Albert B. Rampage]

1/1/1 is absolutely terrible for scum. Not being in group 1 is terrible. Being in group 2 is terrible. That dont leave many choices!!!

[Albert B. Rampage]

Who’s scum in group 1?

Who fucking cares?