mini 2140: partition (this is over)

[Adorable]

I'm always a null read or I would be a scum lean since I'm not an active member. I get the feeling scum looked up my completed games and they put me on Group 1 and plan on lynching Group 2 or Group 3 on day 1 and on day 2 they would put me in a group that would get lynched. I also think whoever are scum in this game are trying way too hard to look towny and it is Group 1 who is getting town read alot.

I don't like Adorable's entrance either

This post looks like shade throwing and you didn't elaborate on why you didn't like my entrance and this is the kind of post I normally scum read when I don't see a player elaborate.

I think 2 scum are in Group 1 and that's why I'm voting there.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm always a null read or I would be a scum lean since I'm not an active member. I get the feeling scum looked up my completed games and they put me on Group 1 and plan on lynching Group 2 or Group 3 on day 1 and on day 2 they would put me in a group that would get lynched. I also think whoever are scum in this game are trying way too hard to look towny and it is Group 1 who is getting town read alot.

I don't like Adorable's entrance either

This post looks like shade throwing and you didn't elaborate on why you didn't like my entrance and this is the kind of post I normally scum read when I don't see a player elaborate.

I think 2 scum are in Group 1 and that's why I'm voting there.

Somebody gets it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Albert B. Rampage]

it's 95% odds there's 2-3 scum in group 1. I ain't scumhunting. Scum are stupid to divide the town this way.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I admit it’s likely there’s 2-3 scum in group 1 but wouldn’t you want to confirm your theory with reads on players in group 1?

[Hoctac]

I'm always a null read or I would be a scum lean since I'm not an active member. I get the feeling scum looked up my completed games and they put me on Group 1 and plan on lynching Group 2 or Group 3 on day 1 and on day 2 they would put me in a group that would get lynched. I also think whoever are scum in this game are trying way too hard to look towny and it is Group 1 who is getting town read alot.

I don't like Adorable's entrance either

This post looks like shade throwing and you didn't elaborate on why you didn't like my entrance and this is the kind of post I normally scum read when I don't see a player elaborate.

I think 2 scum are in Group 1 and that's why I'm voting there.

Puff, why do you think scum would include you with them in group 1 if you think they've researched you and seen you as a null/scumlean most of the time, rather than put you in group 2/3, so that those could get lynched more easily today?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I'm always a null read or I would be a scum lean since I'm not an active member. I get the feeling scum looked up my completed games and they put me on Group 1 and plan on lynching Group 2 or Group 3 on day 1 and on day 2 they would put me in a group that would get lynched. I also think whoever are scum in this game are trying way too hard to look towny and it is Group 1 who is getting town read alot.

I don't like Adorable's entrance either

This post looks like shade throwing and you didn't elaborate on why you didn't like my entrance and this is the kind of post I normally scum read when I don't see a player elaborate.

I think 2 scum are in Group 1 and that's why I'm voting there.

I don’t think you’re that hard to read nor do I think you’re lynchbait simply be being less active

Your entrance pinged me because all you did was ask some questions about the setup and offered no other content. What little analysis you offered in your first posts didn’t make sense - you conjectured there would be 1 scum in each group based on the previous run of this game, but the partitions in the previous game were completely different. I don’t believe you would come up with such bad analysis as town.

Who are the two scum?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I also think whoever are scum in this game are trying way too hard to look towny and it is Group 1 who is getting town read alot.

Ngl I have a hard time believing you actually think this

[Adorable]

I'm always a null read or I would be a scum lean since I'm not an active member. I get the feeling scum looked up my completed games and they put me on Group 1 and plan on lynching Group 2 or Group 3 on day 1 and on day 2 they would put me in a group that would get lynched. I also think whoever are scum in this game are trying way too hard to look towny and it is Group 1 who is getting town read alot.

I don't like Adorable's entrance either

This post looks like shade throwing and you didn't elaborate on why you didn't like my entrance and this is the kind of post I normally scum read when I don't see a player elaborate.

I think 2 scum are in Group 1 and that's why I'm voting there.

Puff, why do you think scum would include you with them in group 1 if you think they've researched you and seen you as a null/scumlean most of the time, rather than put you in group 2/3, so that those could get lynched more easily today?

The players in Group 3 are scummy and I was also going to vote there yesterday and then I started to think scum must have looked up the players completed games which makes me think the players on Group 3 get scum read more often than me.

[Adorable]

I'm always a null read or I would be a scum lean since I'm not an active member. I get the feeling scum looked up my completed games and they put me on Group 1 and plan on lynching Group 2 or Group 3 on day 1 and on day 2 they would put me in a group that would get lynched. I also think whoever are scum in this game are trying way too hard to look towny and it is Group 1 who is getting town read alot.

I don't like Adorable's entrance either

This post looks like shade throwing and you didn't elaborate on why you didn't like my entrance and this is the kind of post I normally scum read when I don't see a player elaborate.

I think 2 scum are in Group 1 and that's why I'm voting there.

I don’t think you’re that hard to read nor do I think you’re lynchbait simply be being less active

Your entrance pinged me because all you did was ask some questions about the setup and offered no other content. What little analysis you offered in your first posts didn’t make sense - you conjectured there would be 1 scum in each group based on the previous run of this game, but the partitions in the previous game were completely different. I don’t believe you would come up with such bad analysis as town.

Who are the two scum?

You also admitted you think there are 2 scum in Group 1 but you don't want to vote there. The two scum in Group 1 look like to me they are the ones who want to vote in Group 2 or Group 3. You are a player I have been leaning scum on. So you think I'm scum who wants to vote myself off on day 1? What kind of logic is this?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I admit it’s likely there’s 2-3 scum in group 1 but wouldn’t you want to confirm your theory with reads on players in group 1?

No I don't care. The odds of being correct is lower than the odds of falsely accusing someone who will think I'm scum because I guessed wrong.

[Hoctac]

The players in Group 3 are scummy and I was also going to vote there yesterday and then I started to think scum must have looked up the players completed games which makes me think the players on Group 3 get scum read more often than me.

So why not put you in Group 2 if they really don't want Group 1 lynched?

[Hoctac]

Also, I need a PageTop but that's miles away. Help a Hoctac out.

[Raya36]

As promised time to dive into some Clidd analysis.

I thought his entrance was ok. He didn't waste time and came in right away with a new idea. I don't think what he said holds much weight and I don't think I'd ever use that as reasoning for a read but I think it's a good thought nonetheless. I think what I like most about it is instead of coming in and speculating the basic partition set-up like most of everyone else he's instead offered a new view which is still kind of related to mechanics but is also on the verge of scumhunting. Also if scum were trying to use this to push people who posted early game I'd expect them to actually go somewhere with it but he doesn't.

Now for his analysis post. I thought it was a good summary and organized things neatly for town to figure out what was most likely which is good. There's not much else I can say about it than that besides his logic seems sound and he seems to have good intentions. I will admit I'm not very strong mechanically so I did get a little lost in the discussion about this post.

This sporadic behavior by Ame does not seem natural to me. I don't know to what extent she still has some paranoia for my slot, or if she is acting in bad faith with this push.

I agree with this point. I haven't played much with Ame before but her posting seems a bit fluffy as well. Although I haven't looked too much into it yet since I don't plan on going for group 1 and she has content as well as the fluff.

I know I said I had a hunch that group 3 had 2 scum in it, but I am actually having a hunchier hunch about group 2 being all scum, so let's vote group 2, shall we?

I feel that your comments on posts 56, 57 and 138 were a more fluid progression. This change in posture did not seem to me to be within the investigative instance of before, which gives me the impression that it is a forced inference.

I find it odd that he shades someone suggesting voting for his group instead of discussing the suggestion directly. It makes me inclined to believe that he's trying to take away credibility. That said, if he thinks Albert is town and he's town this makes perfect sense.

I think his reads are fine. I don't completely agree with everything but his reasoning is good.

@Clidd, do you have a read on Albert outside of partition composition?



Overall I'm not convinced Clidd is scum and I still think that Albert is town. I really think scum would tone down their push for group 1 a little bit if they were pushing an agenda. For Clidd everything seems to come from the point of view of town in a group of 2 who reads their other group member as town.

I know I said I didn't want to make decisions based on the partitions but I think group 3 is the better choice still and partly because it has 1 more player than group 2. I don't think Albert is scum and I'm also leaning towards Clidd being town. Group 3 seems to have players that are more widely scumread and I think the chances of getting at least 1 scum in there are much higher than in group 2. I think group 2 is all town based on my reads and the partitions are 2-0-1, 1-0-2, or 3-0-0.

[Raya36]

I'm safe to vote there now too

VOTE: Group 3

[Raya36]

I think Adorable is scum

But I’m still not endorsing a lynch on group 1

What makes you think Adorable is scum?

Just read her ISO

It doesn’t have anything besides bad justification for voting group 1 (yes there’s almost certainly scum in group 1 but the real question is how many?) and an OMGUS on MT that was reachy and unjustified

I think she’d be doing a lot more as town

Do you have any particular thoughts on their opening post?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

You also admitted you think there are 2 scum in Group 1 but you don't want to vote there. The two scum in Group 1 look like to me they are the ones who want to vote in Group 2 or Group 3. You are a player I have been leaning scum on. So you think I'm scum who wants to vote myself off on day 1? What kind of logic is this?

I don't have two active scumreads on people in group 1. I think it's rash to vote there without having at least two strong scumreads in group 1 on the offchance scum did actually only put 1 scum in that group.

I'm entertaining the idea that scum put scum!you and only you into group 1, and that's why you want to vote yourself. Who is your other scumread?

Why are you still leaning scum on me? Do you disagree with my analysis on your entrance posts?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Do you have any particular thoughts on their opening post?

I answered this in response to Adorable

What's your read on them?

[clidd]

I'll be home in 4 hours.

[Hoctac]

Looking forward to it, clidd! I like these little work updates.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I think group 2 is all town based on my reads and the partitions are 2-0-1, 1-0-2, or 3-0-0.

Yes, this is correct. Does everyone agree with these possible compositions?

[Raya36]

Do you have any particular thoughts on their opening post?

I answered this in response to Adorable

What's your read on them?

I feel like scum would know the set-up and they didn't appear to in their opening post.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I think group 2 is all town based on my reads and the partitions are 2-0-1, 1-0-2, or 3-0-0.

Yes, this is correct. Does everyone agree with these possible compositions?

Except that 1-0-2 is FAR TOO RISKY. If we lynch group 2 they lose 2 scum and it's up to 1 scum to fight the whole town with no kills after N1?

Seems improbable. It's 3-0-0 or 2-0-1.

[Raya36]

I think group 2 is all town based on my reads and the partitions are 2-0-1, 1-0-2, or 3-0-0.

Yes, this is correct. Does everyone agree with these possible compositions?

Except that 1-0-2 is FAR TOO RISKY. If we lynch group 2 they lose 2 scum and it's up to 1 scum to fight the whole town with no kills after N1?

Seems improbable. It's 3-0-0 or 2-0-1.

I assume you meant to say if we lynch group 3?
That logic applies to all the possibilities I mentioned. I think 2-0-1 is the least risky for scum but what you said certainly applies to 3-0-0 since the risk isn't even that they only have 1 scum left, they just lose.

[Daenerys and Dragons]

Something about scum!Albert's plan being "enter hard pushing group 1 in hopes of lynching it" doesn't sit right about me. It feels full of agenda and scummy, so I'm leaning town on him.

Like this thought process except for the last bit

I start to wonder why did mafia put 8 players in group 1, 2 players in group 2, and 3 players in group 3. It takes 7 to hammer and there's no way group 1 will get hammered by the other groups for not having enough players. Mafia want to avoid getting lynched which will be more likely there is definitely scum in group 1.

VOTE: Group 1

This thought process is way too simple and therefore probably town

Raya TRing us for my post attacking her irks me. And 320 continues the earlier overt "agreeableness" I saw and dislike.
Can't tell if clidd's talkiness is a smokescreen for scum or not
no idea what to think of dstj either. Could just be lynchbait...
Meanwhile I kinda dislike Mohab calling themselves lynchbait over and over. Reads like a shield.
MT deflecting the "slip" in 251 bothers me as well. Playing it off nonchalantly with the "I don't think you're scum". I don't know if it was necessarily a slip but the reaction bothers me moreso.
It just sucks SRing people in 1. 3 is probably a decent lynch based on raw scumhunting.

I'd say my scumpool rn is (Mohab/enomis/Raya/MT)
I have a lot of nulls. Town people need to be more town!

-dragons

[Mohab500]

I also think whoever are scum in this game are trying way too hard to look towny and it is Group 1 who is getting town read alot.

This feels like scum acting like they're scumhunting tbh, this statement adds little to nothing here: we know scum is trying to act like townt so can you please tell us something more discreet? What do you mean by trying too hard to be towny? And was that last part a jab against Group 1 or are you actually defending Group 1?