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Post Post #2000 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 1:25 pm

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UNVOTE:

I'm having a bit of difficulty seeing that team as the solve but at the same time I'm having some difficulty undestanding D1/N1 if Nero/Popop is town.

I feel at least one of them needs to be scum or...it may be the weirdest night kill I've ever seen?
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Post Post #2001 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 1:26 pm

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #2002 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 1:26 pm

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Darn I always do that.

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Post Post #2003 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 1:27 pm

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In post 1998, Zantetsu wrote:
In post 1996, Nero Cain wrote:y r u voting me Zan?
I'm sheeping Churros because I think his brain is 10x as large as mine.
ur trusting a dude who is going back in forth every page.
he is more indecisive and prone to making rash decisions than me rn and thats saying something.

But yeah 10x larger brain
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #2004 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 1:27 pm

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I probably should consider Fire/Norwe more throughly.
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Post Post #2005 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 1:28 pm

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You might call the Elements kill ... BRAZEN.
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Post Post #2006 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 1:28 pm

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Nero, I name u town leader today.

Overthrow the Churros Monarchy and bring forth a new empire under your leadership
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Post Post #2007 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 1:28 pm

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In post 2005, Zantetsu wrote:You might call the Elements kill ... BRAZEN.
i like brazen
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Post Post #2008 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 1:30 pm

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In post 2003, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1998, Zantetsu wrote:
In post 1996, Nero Cain wrote:y r u voting me Zan?
I'm sheeping Churros because I think his brain is 10x as large as mine.
ur trusting a dude who is going back in forth every page.
You're saying I shouldn't trust Churros?
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Post Post #2009 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 1:31 pm

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In post 2008, Zantetsu wrote:
In post 2003, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1998, Zantetsu wrote:
In post 1996, Nero Cain wrote:y r u voting me Zan?
I'm sheeping Churros because I think his brain is 10x as large as mine.
ur trusting a dude who is going back in forth every page.
You're saying I shouldn't trust Churros?
shhh im just sowing dissent like u said a page ago.
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #2010 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 1:39 pm

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i mean we should just be lynching in profii and popop
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Post Post #2011 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 1:44 pm

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Popop/Nero doesn't...feel like scum necessarily.

Popop is easier to believe to be scum than Nero in face value.

However, who is scum anyway if both are town? It would mean everyone town reads were correct but scum decided to kill NO ONE. wtf man...

If both Popop/Nero are town, and Zantetsu/Alch/Luna are town, it means:

-> We had in D1 ultra good solves, we had 4 correct consensus town reads more or less (Churros, Alch, Luna, Nero) + add Zantetsu to it maybe (he wasn't that town read on d1) , and I was hard defending one of their top mislynches Popop, if he was town. But...they decided to kill Elems instead of any of the vocal players?

What the hell...?

We literally would have more or less scum in our collective lynch pool in D1 and they would have let us alone to nightkill a vigilante crumb at best.

They...can't be town right? That's not a reasonable universe.

they can't be...

I refuse to believe in that level of wifom...

Out of respect for everyone meta on Nero and because Nero ISO is arguably better than Popop, I'm gonna do this.

VOTE: Popop
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Post Post #2012 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 1:56 pm

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In post 1147, popopopopopopo wrote:
In post 1141, Nero Cain wrote:but alch is right, its irrelevant rn but hey pop gotta try something to get pressure off of him.
YOU HAVENT MADE A SINGLE GOOD POINT AGAINST ME ALL GAME. YOU HAVE BEEN TUNNELING ME SINCE PAGE 8, WHEN YOU VOTED, BUT MAYBE EVEN BEFORE (131). THERE HAS BEEN A SHIT TON OF GAME. A SHIT TON OF WAGONS. 2 FLIPS. I HAVE MADE A SHIT TON OF POSTS SINCE THEN. AND YOURE STILL TUNNELING ME OVER NOTHING. IF YOU'RE TOWN YOU NEED TO GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS AND TAKE A STEP BACK. MAYBE THE DUDE YOU'VE BEEN TUNNELING SINCE PAGE 8
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SCUM?
In post 1148, popopopopopopo wrote:LIKE MAYBE U DIDNT FIND SCUM ON PAGE 8??? HOLY SHIT. 10+ YEARS OF EXPERIENCE THIS MAN HAS.
In post 1245, popopopopopopo wrote:ok i've reread the day and im willing to admit the entire scumteam isnt voting me right now.
In post 1246, popopopopopopo wrote:because they couldnt be that dumb? idk actually. nero is kinda null-town to me now if im completely honest. his insane tunneling at this point feels like possible town.

but its mainly the fact that he is voting me with my other huge scumreads. im not that important that the 3 players voting on me are all scum, and nero is the least likely scum to me out of that pool.

maybe im wrong in thinking theres little to no chance of all 3 scum being on me rn.. idk
like...

how can this be scum...

this is just wrong...no

UNVOTE:

I'm off until god enlightens me on who is scum this game.
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Post Post #2013 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 1:58 pm

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I can see that being said to a partner which means Nero/Popop but like...their interactions, more from popop side, are so good.

But Nero individually being scum...idk I'm getting cold feet.

Almost everyone else is town reading him for some reason and some of his posts do pass a town thought process.

I feel something in this game solve is so weird.
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Post Post #2014 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 2:01 pm

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In post 1148, popopopopopopo wrote:LIKE MAYBE U DIDNT FIND SCUM ON PAGE 8??? HOLY SHIT. 10+ YEARS OF EXPERIENCE THIS MAN HAS.
This line.

It feels so mocking

like "10 years of experience and this is the BS you came up with?"

It doesn't feel like caught scum at all...

Add that to:
In post 1147, popopopopopopo wrote:
In post 1141, Nero Cain wrote:but alch is right, its irrelevant rn but hey pop gotta try something to get pressure off of him.
YOU HAVENT MADE A SINGLE GOOD POINT AGAINST ME ALL GAME. YOU HAVE BEEN TUNNELING ME SINCE PAGE 8, WHEN YOU VOTED, BUT MAYBE EVEN BEFORE (131). THERE HAS BEEN A SHIT TON OF GAME. A SHIT TON OF WAGONS. 2 FLIPS. I HAVE MADE A SHIT TON OF POSTS SINCE THEN. AND YOURE STILL TUNNELING ME OVER NOTHING. IF YOU'RE TOWN YOU NEED TO GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS AND TAKE A STEP BACK. MAYBE THE DUDE YOU'VE BEEN TUNNELING SINCE PAGE 8
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SCUM?
It doesn't feel...like scum.

It can be partner theater but not S v T, I feel.
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Post Post #2015 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 2:05 pm

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I feel I may wanna re:read the whole game in the weekend if possible to get some new feels.
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Post Post #2016 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 2:10 pm

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pop is merely discrediting me. And at the time he was "scum reading" me and I had felt like that was scum that knew I was town. I don't know why you think that's a town post at all.
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Post Post #2017 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 2:11 pm

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I'm not saying popop is scum, right now my head is spinning and I don't know exactly whom I scum read but, I disagree with your assessment of popop. When I was caught scum (except in last game where it was due to a fake claim by partner) I acted similarly indignant. I was outraged, very frustrated and flustered. I wrote in all caps.

So I do not agree with you that popop's response was so town.
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Post Post #2018 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 2:13 pm

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I feel like your strength Churros is in analyzing setup and PoE solves. I don't trust your raw read of tone as much.
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Post Post #2019 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 2:17 pm

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Hmm, if you want my mechanical opinion I keep not seeing how the Elems kill could be made if both Nero/Popop are town

We would have way too many town reads right/ too vocal about it for they to chase a crumb that may or may not be real.

I feel that most likely, they weren't too worried about town day play and thought "hey, maybe that's a crumb, let's try to kill it?" because they didn't need to worry too much elsewhere.

The game seems to implicate that one of Popop/Nero/Profi needs to be scum. Especially Popop/Nero. There's no other reasonably way to understand mafia gameplan here if that's not it I think...

Alternatively they made a bunch of really random and hasty decisions which I don't believe a lot...
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Post Post #2020 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 2:18 pm

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That said maybe take it with a grain of salt, I'm not half as good as you assume I'm...
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Post Post #2021 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 2:19 pm

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I'm going mad, I can't see how it's not Popop/Nero but at the same time it's such an eccentric solve
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Post Post #2022 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 2:23 pm

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Is there a good reason Popo/Profi/Norwegian doesn't work as a team?
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Post Post #2023 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 2:42 pm

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nero stop being passive and take charge.

wtf is this.
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Post Post #2024 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 2:51 pm

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...........................................


I'm telling them to lynch POP. Are you even voting pop? Am I voting POP?

I think I am but in case not

VOTE: vote:POP
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