Mini 2133: XP Mafia II (Game Over)

[Raven Branwen]

He's saying the gift mechanic was randomized. Pine could choose between three different mechanics, but didn't and so Gifting was randomly chosen.

He's not saying that using Gift was randomized.

Yes, I get that now. I lost 1 potential XP due to spring being captured but at least she was actually playing the game. I honestly don’t know why Pine keeps signing up for games, he is unable to make a good faith effort in playing.

[Raven Branwen]

He's saying the gift mechanic was randomized. Pine could choose between three different mechanics, but didn't and so Gifting was randomly chosen.

He's not saying that using Gift was randomized.

Yes, I get that now. I lost 1 potential XP due to spring being captured but at least she was actually playing the game. I honestly don’t know why Pine keeps signing up for games, he is unable to make a good faith effort in playing.

I would be at 4 now otherwise but I’d be really annoyed if it occurred due to spring failing to submit an NA.

[Raven Branwen]

It's 12 am here so goodnight, if I get lynched then like I said one scum between ginngie/LC and one between Pine/momo/raya I think.

ginngie and Pine, likely town from this. LC slot has been supertown from the getgo.

[Raven Branwen]

@Ginngie you're hilarious, you're saying that you're aware of your apparent scum meta and you wouldn't play against it?

Ginggie stop fucking around

Irony laughed, then died laughing

@Pine can you explain your Ginny townread? I don't see any content in their iso.

I trust mastina accurately identified town Ginnie regardless of mastina's alignment.

Explain?

He not realizing that Knight was the mastina replacement, town reading mastina, yet scum reading Knight for his vote in the quest also came off as super genuine

It was a mistake, I agree it felt genuine. Why is it AI?

Your conclusion on Ginngie's mistake is stupid, it's like you have a read and you are trying to fit it into that(conf bias).

well this has never happened ever in the history of mafia so we dont have to worry about that

seeing how observant you are, it wouldn't surprise me if you missed it.

TSE/ginngie doesn’t sound like a Knight buddy.

[Alisae]

Ali, if you were scum this game what could I use to identify you?

if I was scum I have a better understanding of the games mechanics

[Ame]

Alright, let's do it. I'm sorry Raya..

VOTE: Raya

[Ame]

I guess I could take another Bard, PinkB. Unless anyone else has a use for it. Or you can save it. Either way.

[Raven Branwen]

Ginngie has done nothing but sheep their crew so far lol.

I'm sheeping a big enough group so they can't all be scum and my slot can do pro-town things while I'm currently busy in life not able to focus.

(Ginngie is town by the way. Thought y'all should know. <3)

hey ya'll im town so just shout my name and i'll read it and respond.

Is okay, Ginngie, I be vouching for you being town as of now.

Do you really want to hurt me?
Do you really want to make me cry?

(I really shouldn't townread PB since he's not out of his scumrange but I really realllllllly want to right now so fuckit I'll call him town too.)

TSE/ginngie and PB spewed town by this.

[Raven Branwen]

Please elaborate on the bolded as well. I'm not discounting the possibility to be wrong on springlullaby, but your level of confidence seems misplaced and i'd like to understand why this is the case.

Because of spring's conviction, more or less--she's so sure that she's right about her plan being the correct one, in a way that I don't think comes from scum.

Oh , Mastina spewed spring town as well.

[Ame]

VOTE: Hectic

Actually.

I'm sorry this is just too similar to your scum play.

[Raven Branwen]

I didn't like this. He was asked four times in total I think. "Not an interesting question" is a bad excuse when people ask questions generally to improve their reads. I consider avoiding questions anti-town at best.

Ask me dumb questions, then you're gonna get ignored, kid.

I'm available to vote Farkan.

Didn't want to discuss reads today but since Jemaine already started.
I do scumread Farkset. Quite hard.
That slot needs to be lynched at the first opportunity.
The scum motivation coming from them is really obvious to me.

- Bret

It’s obvious why FotC was the NK and they correctly nailed two scum and were vehemently opposed to capture.

[Ame]

Raya, out of interest, is English your first language?

No, I just find the way you word certain things quite unique. It's hard to articulate.

I always thought of Hectic as town but I was also very suspicious of the slot because nothing was strongly town to me but that changed.

Could you elaborate how you were very suspicious of me while always thinking of me as town?

Like what was this even about even.

[Ame]

Yes Hectic just die. There's no solve intent behind him at all. He's just saying things.

[Ame]

Oof

must

not just

I'm not that aggressive!

[Ame]

From the very beginning you were just asking things to ask

[Raven Branwen]

I need 2 xp btw, kthanks.

This was on D2, so why tf are NK and ABR sr that?

[Ame]

No real follow up

[Ame]

Raven, have we played together? Also why are you so defensive of your slot being scum read!?

[Raven Branwen]

I actually have a really strange reason for townreading springlullaby though lol. I didn't want to explain it earlier because it's kinda really stupid but here:

QUEST PLEDGE LIST DAY 1

Confirmed:

springlullaby
Pink Ball
Hectic

Waiting (lame or scum):

mastina
Raya36
Pine
Ginngie
Lady Chloe
momo
Flight of the Conchords
Not Known 15
Farkset
Ame

Leader:

springlullaby

In this pledge list, springlullaby put me after Pink Ball for people who have pledged, though I had confirmed to pledge before Pink Ball had. This isn't a big deal and doesn't really mean anything right now.

QUEST PLEDGE LIST DAY 1

Confirmed:

springlullaby
Hectic
Pink Ball
Pine
Raya36

Waiting (lame or scum):

mastina
Ginngie
Lady Chloe
momo
Flight of the Conchords
Not Known 15
Farkset
Ame

Leader:

springlullaby

But then in the next list, she's swapped me and Pink Ball around. Considering the fact she very likely copied the previous list and edited it to make this one, it means swapping us around was a consious choice, and might suggest she put me below Pink Ball in the first as petty/spite thing, which would indicate her actually disliking me/my posts rather than it being an act.
Then she swapped us around after reevaluating or wanting the list to actually be in order.

Do you not like this post @Ame?

[Ame]

From the very beginning you were just asking things to ask

Like this:

I would honestly consider anyone pushing for neighborizer to be scummy. It gains almost no useful and dependable information for town to use and also is a great way for scum to pocket and gain town trust.

Who do you think of the current people voting neighbouriser are scummy for it?

There was so much contradiction in Raya's response but you never followed up on it.

And you never questioned your Farkran read at

all

, even after my case.

This was all before Fark was shot and Knight was lynched, so the idea of the game being won as the reason for your lack of motivation doesn't gel.

[Not Known 15]

I need 2 xp btw, kthanks.

This was on D2, so why tf are NK and ABR sr that?

Because it means that you need 4 xp. But with needing 4 xp the "I made a mistake I don`t need just 1 xp" is even less credible....

[Ame]

Do you not like this post @Ame?

Actually thank you for pointing this out. I overlooked how unreasonable this is. The assumptions he is making here are not reasonable.

[Ame]

NK, Raven. Ali. Will you join me on Hectic?

[Ame]

Actually thank you for pointing this out. I overlooked how unreasonable this is. The assumptions he is making here are not reasonable.

Like it's kind of the same thing Fark was doing with that whole thing. Making a post simply to show how contemplative he was being.

[Ame]

I need 2 xp btw, kthanks.

This was on D2, so why tf are NK and ABR sr that?

Because it means that you need 4 xp. But with needing 4 xp the "I made a mistake I don`t need just 1 xp" is even less credible....

Voeyer + Leader = 2. Maybe she forgot she couldn't train as well and that's what she was banking on to get 3 and then realized she couldn't.