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Post Post #3025 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 7:14 am

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I have a pretty strong preference for Bingle over Drixx.
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Post Post #3026 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 7:17 am

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i share this preference
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Post Post #3027 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 7:19 am

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In post 3025, Eddie Cane wrote:I have a pretty strong preference for Bingle over Drixx.
In post 3026, Morning Tweet wrote:i share this preference
I see no evidence.
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Post Post #3028 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 7:19 am

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VOTE: Bingle

I'll be around to do more in a little bit. I think this is the best lynch given the preferences of MT/EC as my strongest town reads, and iDanyboy's ISO being so bad. Bingle has tried his best to town up the slot but his play is mostly focused on mechanics and not especially hard for scum to fake
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Post Post #3029 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 7:21 am

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In post 3023, Eddie Cane wrote:I think the way Bingle is playing makes him not with Dave or Drixx, not theatery.
Dave gives us more information.
If Dave flips Town then we vote Bingle.
Simple.
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Post Post #3030 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 7:22 am

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In post 3028, GuiltyLion wrote:VOTE: Bingle

I'll be around to do more in a little bit. I think this is the best lynch given the preferences of MT/EC as my strongest town reads, and iDanyboy's ISO being so bad. Bingle has tried his best to town up the slot but his play is mostly focused on mechanics and not especially hard for scum to fake
Wait a minute. Based on what evidence?
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Post Post #3031 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 7:23 am

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In post 2957, Bingle wrote:Dave's reaction of "crumb PR as hard as possible while keeping his actual particulars vague" is not likely to be town imo, because the crumbs make him just as likely to eat a nightkill (trap) as the actual claim would, but keeping the claim vague as shit lets him tailor it further if he lives.

It's also bullshit that he's going to immediately be the nightkill target off of a (I have a 1/the playerlist chance of hitting scum!) when he's a likely lynch and scum is almost at the endgame. Frankly, an investigative that can only hit the godfather would be a nonissue to a 4 person scumteam at this point.
this is important

I think the frustration is genuine and they're good points on why dave's claim isn't especially valuable

but I'm not sure why this makes dave scum

and I think the chance of town!Dave getting a cop off on Ircher slot is more valuable to solving than town!Bingle getting a cop off on Drixx or a townread player in the hood
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Post Post #3032 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 7:24 am

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In post 3030, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 3028, GuiltyLion wrote:VOTE: Bingle

I'll be around to do more in a little bit. I think this is the best lynch given the preferences of MT/EC as my strongest town reads, and iDanyboy's ISO being so bad. Bingle has tried his best to town up the slot but his play is mostly focused on mechanics and not especially hard for scum to fake
Wait a minute. Based on what evidence?
evidence for what? I've laid out why I've scumread danyBoy the entire game. Only reason I was open to giving that slot some room was the claim and where my town bloc wanted to go. I've said this constantly throughout today, nothing has changed
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Post Post #3033 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 7:31 am

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I also have this weird train of thought where like

let's say we let both/either of them live

if Bingle then claims a guilty on someone tomorrow, like Drixx or EC or whoever, I'm not gonna be sold on that. As long as Bingle's alignment is unknown, I don't inherently trust his results regardless, which makes the claim kinda useless. A Bingle townflip would go further towards making me wanna Lynch Drixx than a claimed guilty would

whereas if Dave claims a Godfather hit, I'm much more inclined to believe and sheep on that
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Post Post #3034 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 7:38 am

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also just had a further thought on the "as scum with Jigsaw!gamma, iDanyboy would not claim an inno on his Jigsaw buddy"

it's true that you want your godfather partner to be investigated by the actual town cop, but what if Jigsaw flips first instead? Then it lends plausibility/credence to the inno result, making the claim more believable while not actually having to generate an inno on anybody else in the game
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Post Post #3035 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 7:43 am

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In post 3027, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 3025, Eddie Cane wrote:I have a pretty strong preference for Bingle over Drixx.
In post 3026, Morning Tweet wrote:i share this preference
I see no evidence.
What does 'evidence' mean?
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Post Post #3036 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 7:46 am

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In post 3029, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 3023, Eddie Cane wrote:I think the way Bingle is playing makes him not with Dave or Drixx, not theatery.
Dave gives us more information.
If Dave flips Town then we vote Bingle.
Simple.
Flipping scum gives us more information.
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Post Post #3037 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 7:50 am

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no new evidence has been introduced since idanny claimed and got replaced.

Why js Dirxx town? He's done jack all game long.
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Post Post #3038 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 8:14 am

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I think I've been very clear I don't town read Drixx. I think Bingle slot is more likely to flip mafia, so that is where I'm voting. Jingle's insistence to lynch in the hood while also professing a town read on me makes it unlikely he'd be with Drixx or Dave, because the lynch in the hood always lands on one of those two if it isn't him. Although as I'm typing it, he is a better player than either of them, so I guess its
possible
he'd just rather get the cred off a scum lynch and try to endgame. Shrug. I don't think I'm changing my mind on Jingle being the most likely mafia at this point.
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Post Post #3039 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 8:27 am

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In post 3036, Eddie Cane wrote:
In post 3029, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 3023, Eddie Cane wrote:I think the way Bingle is playing makes him not with Dave or Drixx, not theatery.
Dave gives us more information.
If Dave flips Town then we vote Bingle.
Simple.
Flipping scum gives us more information.
Dave Flipping Scum gives us hella information.
If Bingle flips Town we accomplish nothing.
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Post Post #3040 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 8:29 am

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Guys there’s 4 Mafia left so Mafia can easily be leading the game.
Therefore we vote Dave.
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Post Post #3041 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 8:29 am

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Actually wait
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Post Post #3042 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 8:33 am

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In post 3039, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 3036, Eddie Cane wrote:
In post 3029, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 3023, Eddie Cane wrote:I think the way Bingle is playing makes him not with Dave or Drixx, not theatery.
Dave gives us more information.
If Dave flips Town then we vote Bingle.
Simple.
Flipping scum gives us more information.
Dave Flipping Scum gives us hella information.
If Bingle flips Town we accomplish nothing.
i hella need you to explain this
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Post Post #3043 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 8:38 am

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Assuming mafia is in neither Dave nor Bingle then scum is probably desperately trying to control for a mislynch.
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Post Post #3044 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 8:38 am

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I actually think that the better approach here is to go for the one trying to control the wagons.
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Post Post #3045 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 8:39 am

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Wow would you look at that it’s you.

VOTE: Eddie
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Post Post #3046 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 8:44 am

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In post 3042, Eddie Cane wrote:
In post 3039, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 3036, Eddie Cane wrote:
In post 3029, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 3023, Eddie Cane wrote:I think the way Bingle is playing makes him not with Dave or Drixx, not theatery.
Dave gives us more information.
If Dave flips Town then we vote Bingle.
Simple.
Flipping scum gives us more information.
Dave Flipping Scum gives us hella information.
If Bingle flips Town we accomplish nothing.
i hella need you to explain this
I felt like Dave being Town makes Bingle Scum
Bingle being Town doesn’t make Dave Scum.
However that isn’t directly the case.
While sure Dave Town (-) Bingle Scum 75%
Bingle Town (-) Dave Scum 45%
It’s actually just more probable scum are controlling wagons and haven’t been a top wagon.
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Post Post #3047 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 8:47 am

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The team should be something like:
Eddie, Albert, Morning Tweet, Battle Mage

With BBMolla and FireBringer leftover as possibilities.
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Post Post #3048 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 8:50 am

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In post 3046, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:I felt like Dave being Town makes Bingle Scum
Dave Town -> Bingle scum
In post 3046, TrueSoulEnergy wrote: Bingle being Town doesn’t make Dave Scum.
Bingle town -> Dave town or scum

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Post Post #3049 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 8:53 am

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In post 3048, Eddie Cane wrote:
In post 3046, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:I felt like Dave being Town makes Bingle Scum
Dave Town -> Bingle scum
In post 3046, TrueSoulEnergy wrote: Bingle being Town doesn’t make Dave Scum.
Bingle town -> Dave town or scum

:thinking:
I explained myself there and corrected it.
Pointing it out like that isn’t Town indicative.
As you aren’t even questioning my vote on you.
It’s like you seem to only care to small details to prove a point to something that isn’t there.
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