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[popopopopopopo]

im rereading the game, on page 33. i will have content tonight

[Zantetsu]

VT.

if u r a vt why do u ever say

Your fake attempts to out a PR are noted though.

1. To WIFOM Scum
2. To eat a NK
3. To generate discussion and clearing myself if something like ^ comes up.

I thought your entrance was seeming pretty towny but I don't like the above. You posted 2190 very shortly after entering the game. How could you conclude that any of (1), (2), or (3) are the best strategies for your slot without knowing anything about game state.

(1), (2), and (3) sound made up. If you are town I advise you to just be honest.

[Churros]

Everyone town reads [Zantetsu, Churros, Alch] now right?

Saudade has a notable history of bussing his partners, and scum has a notable meta of opening the game by town reading the most consensus correct town reads. Saudade opened his game content posts with an early town read on Nero. I feel given context, they are probably not partners. If you do agree with this, you need to believe there's exactly at least 2 scum here:

[Fire, Quick, Popop, Norwe]

Who feels the most like a team?

I guess that's a good initial question for us to begin to solve this for real.

I would like thoughts on this. I feel it's a good starter to "how to solve this game".

We're very incoherent at the moment and everyone has erractic reads.

I feel we need a initial clause and to try progressing on it rather than always leashing on a target with quick wagons.

[Nero Cain]

Okay, will reevalutate the game during NP.

for a guy that wanted to eat night kill this post doesn't exactly scream that

[Quick]

VT.

if u r a vt why do u ever say

Your fake attempts to out a PR are noted though.

1. To WIFOM Scum
2. To eat a NK
3. To generate discussion and clearing myself if something like ^ comes up.

I thought your entrance was seeming pretty towny but I don't like the above. You posted 2190 very shortly after entering the game. How could you conclude that any of (1), (2), or (3) are the best strategies for your slot without knowing anything about game state.

(1), (2), and (3) sound made up. If you are town I advise you to just be honest.

Let me ask you a question.....

Do you normally expect to have to claim as soon as you enter the thead? Because I don't. I expect people to ask me to claim and stuff for reactions and not really anything having to do with actually getting me to claim.

Where is my faulty reasoning here?

[Quick]

Okay, will reevalutate the game during NP.

for a guy that wanted to eat night kill this post doesn't exactly scream that

By all means, implicate yourself by pushing me, Nero.

[Churros]

I don't feel anyone other than Alchemist probably has their heads in the right mindset to lynch scum today.

I feel if we lynch mafia that way, it's more because we got lucky with momentum than it's because our teamwork worked it out. That's not a great way to try to win the next two days when we're very close to LyLo with claimed PRs.

We need an initial clause, and I would like to begin it by proposing, [Zantetsu, Alch, Churros] are town, and [Nero, Saudade] aren't likely partners, therefore there's 2 scum in [Quick, Fire, Popop, Norwe] at the very least.

Do you agree? If not, why?

[Zantetsu]

Everyone town reads [Zantetsu, Churros, Alch] now right?

Saudade has a notable history of bussing his partners, and scum has a notable meta of opening the game by town reading the most consensus correct town reads. Saudade opened his game content posts with an early town read on Nero. I feel given context, they are probably not partners. If you do agree with this, you need to believe there's exactly at least 2 scum here:

[Fire, Quick, Popop, Norwe]

Who feels the most like a team?

I guess that's a good initial question for us to begin to solve this for real.

Churros you are beautiful. I need to learn how to analyze game state like you.

Anyway, my gut feel is { Popop, Norwe }. If you look at his voting history (via GeorgeBailey ISO, which admittedly may miss some in-between vote count action), it looks like he mostly joins counterwagons once there is a wagon against him, except for:

- Coming back to vote me, probably to seem 'consistent' with his early scum read of me
- Voting Norwegian, which I think was likely distancing that was abandoned when the more attractive Peter lynch became available.

[Zantetsu]

Sorry I wasn't clear in my previous post, I meant if you look at Popop's voting history (which I had already been doing since I was analyzing popop again).

[Nero Cain]

I've already been pushing your slot Quick and in theory, ppl pushing someone else who is town does not make a scum. That's super surface lvl thinking and fake.

[Quick]

I've already been pushing your slot Quick and in theory, ppl pushing someone else who is town does not make a scum. That's super surface lvl thinking and fake.

My slot should be Null for inactivity.

[Zantetsu]

VT.

if u r a vt why do u ever say

Your fake attempts to out a PR are noted though.

1. To WIFOM Scum
2. To eat a NK
3. To generate discussion and clearing myself if something like ^ comes up.

I thought your entrance was seeming pretty towny but I don't like the above. You posted 2190 very shortly after entering the game. How could you conclude that any of (1), (2), or (3) are the best strategies for your slot without knowing anything about game state.

(1), (2), and (3) sound made up. If you are town I advise you to just be honest.

Let me ask you a question.....

Do you normally expect to have to claim as soon as you enter the thead? Because I don't. I expect people to ask me to claim and stuff for reactions and not really anything having to do with actually getting me to claim.

Where is my faulty reasoning here?

Not expecting to have to claim is exactly why now saying that you had three reasons for your post seems made up. You wouldn't have had time to think of all of that, especially given that some of those things only make sense if you know something about game state already.

Maybe you didn't have those three reasons all ready to go and you said what you said because you felt pressure and didn't understand why so you just reacted. If you had said that, it would have sounded more honest.

Maybe you're already being honest, I don't know, I'm just explaining my position to you because you asked for an explanation.

[Nero Cain]

My slot should be Null for inactivity.

said every lurker scum ever.

[Churros]

Great, now I engage Zantetsu in that, and it would be amazing if everyone chimes in and give non-condensing/not over-confident answers, and we discuss like civilized people that don't need to be passive-aggressive all the time.

That's how we can try to win this game because it's a particularly confusing one and is totally not in the right track at the moment, if it ever was since D1.

Popop, I wasn't truly frustated with you and I wronged as much as you in my treatment in respect of your slot. I'm not here to talk about how people should play, that one was my fault. Let's stop being overconfident on reads or phrases we say though. It's confusing to read it otherwise.

[popopopopopopo]

im up to 40, feel like im close to a solve

[Quick]

VT.

if u r a vt why do u ever say

Your fake attempts to out a PR are noted though.

1. To WIFOM Scum
2. To eat a NK
3. To generate discussion and clearing myself if something like ^ comes up.

I thought your entrance was seeming pretty towny but I don't like the above. You posted 2190 very shortly after entering the game. How could you conclude that any of (1), (2), or (3) are the best strategies for your slot without knowing anything about game state.

(1), (2), and (3) sound made up. If you are town I advise you to just be honest.

Let me ask you a question.....

Do you normally expect to have to claim as soon as you enter the thead? Because I don't. I expect people to ask me to claim and stuff for reactions and not really anything having to do with actually getting me to claim.

Where is my faulty reasoning here?

Not expecting to have to claim is exactly why now saying that you had three reasons for your post seems made up. You wouldn't have had time to think of all of that, especially given that some of those things only make sense if you know something about game state already.

Maybe you didn't have those three reasons all ready to go and you said what you said because you felt pressure and didn't understand why so you just reacted. If you had said that, it would have sounded more honest.

Maybe you're already being honest, I don't know, I'm just explaining my position to you because you asked for an explanation.

I refer you to point 3.

[Nero Cain]

I also tried to read Fire right away to show Town!Me.

Why would that be AI at all?

[Churros]

Everyone town reads [Zantetsu, Churros, Alch] now right?

Saudade has a notable history of bussing his partners, and scum has a notable meta of opening the game by town reading the most consensus correct town reads. Saudade opened his game content posts with an early town read on Nero. I feel given context, they are probably not partners. If you do agree with this, you need to believe there's exactly at least 2 scum here:

[Fire, Quick, Popop, Norwe]

Who feels the most like a team?

I guess that's a good initial question for us to begin to solve this for real.

Churros you are beautiful. I need to learn how to analyze game state like you.

Anyway, my gut feel is { Popop, Norwe }. If you look at his voting history (via GeorgeBailey ISO, which admittedly may miss some in-between vote count action), it looks like he mostly joins counterwagons once there is a wagon against him, except for:

- Coming back to vote me, probably to seem 'consistent' with his early scum read of me
- Voting Norwegian, which I think was likely distancing that was abandoned when the more attractive Peter lynch became available.

[Popop, Norwe] does feel plausible yes.

Not what I necessarily would believe at the moment, but I could see it being the case.

I need to handcheck Norwe's progression on popop though, I feel it's a bit weird if they are buddies and Norwe strongly prefered so much popop to Peter. Norwe had a considerably stance about not wanting to join Peter when Popop wagon dismantled, I feel if they were buddies, Norwe would be less against Peter wagon, but I can be wrong.

On another hand, it's curious that Norwe voted Fire after Popop's wagon dismantled, and didn't engage a lot the wagons until hammering Jake by the end.

[Quick]

I also tried to read Fire right away to show Town!Me.

Why would that be AI at all?

1. Generate discussion
2. Show I'm ready to play ball

[Zantetsu]

I refer you to point 3.

I refer you to points 1 and 2.

[Quick]

I refer you to point 3.

I refer you to points 1 and 2.

LOL, I have no idea what you are saying rn. Didn't we already decided this line of questioning is pointless?

[Churros]

Quick posted some content but more inquiries on him when he doesn't know about the game yet feel a bit pointless.

Quick, I would rather have you focusing on catching up about the game than discussing this line of questioning.

[Nero Cain]

Because Nero doesn't really Unvote much as Town from what I have seen, but I haven't ever actually seen Nero as Scum I don't think. Just seems inefficient for Nero to not have a vote on someone. So I am just looking at surface level stuff to get into the game and

trying to Town tell

.

i am p sure I never unvoted. The bolded is sus b/c town don't need to try to town tell, they just are.

[Quick]

Because Nero doesn't really Unvote much as Town from what I have seen, but I haven't ever actually seen Nero as Scum I don't think. Just seems inefficient for Nero to not have a vote on someone. So I am just looking at surface level stuff to get into the game and

trying to Town tell

.

i am p sure I never unvoted. The bolded is sus b/c town don't need to try to town tell, they just are.

Look at the latest VC where it says you had Unvoted. Then I talked about the vote itself saying it looked bizarre.

You are not going to "catch" me because I am Town, Nero.

[Churros]

Come back with reads and we can discuss more meaningful things and see if there's an agenda to your play Quick.

Lots of what you're posting seems noise and redudant at the moment.

If you keep posting this, people will simply keep egging you.

If you're town what I said is the best course of action.

If you're mafia I would like to give you a run for the money rather than to endlessly egg you here.