Mini Normal 2132 [Game Over]

[LuckyLuciano]

The way I understand it, Wake and I are mech town. That makes the lynch pool {MT, Clidd, Profii, Bob, Adorable}. MT I think is town based on meta. Nobody seems to think you are scum. If I'm right on MT, and everyone else is right on you, then mafia is in {Profii, Bob, Adorable} and with 1 mislynch remaining we cannot lose.

[clidd]

The way I understand it, Wake and I are mech town. That makes the lynch pool {MT, Clidd, Profii, Bob, Adorable}. MT I think is town based on meta. Nobody seems to think you are scum. If I'm right on MT, and everyone else is right on you, then mafia is in {Profii, Bob, Adorable} and with 1 mislynch remaining we cannot lose.

It seems like a utopian solution, but I am following your reasoning. What do you think about that, Wake ?

[Wake1]

Eh, bullshit.

None of us, including me, are mechanically cleared.

Very rarely does mechanics 100% clear anyone.

[LuckyLuciano]

So why does the mafia have a 1x jailkeeper?

[Morning Tweet]

This mechanical stuff is becoming a drag to read through

let's say Lucky-dave is scum. Who is the most likely partner? I'd like to pose this question to those advocating for Lucky's lynch specifically.

And for Lucky, who would you pick to lynch first out of {Bob, Profii, Adorable}?

[LuckyLuciano]

Adorable.

[Adorable]

I'm being setup for a mislynch. That Hectic kill makes no sense since that would just put 3 vt claims setup as lynch meaning 2 scums basically outed themselves by killing a vt claim. If I was scum I would have killed a pr and not kill a vt claim.

[bob3141]

it's probable that either A.) bob is scum with lucky or B.) adorable is scum with profii.

what do you think of the possibility both scum is in the VTs, clidd? If so, i think that makes bob town

So it's either pr + vt or it's bob + profii. I find it interesting bob and profii are not interacting with each other and bob votes me instead of profii.

What is your read o proffi. You ahve been refusing to give one at all. All of this day.

Do you scum read him, do you town read him. And why

[bob3141]

I'm being setup for a mislynch. That Hectic kill makes no sense since that would just put 3 vt claims setup as lynch meaning 2 scums basically outed themselves by killing a vt claim. If I was scum I would have killed a pr and not kill a vt claim.

WINOF much?

You couldnt kill dave bacause of wake. Or you were afraid to take the guilty.

You cant kill tweet as that confirms all the pr claims.

You cant kill wake as agin if you kill him it confirms the other 2.

In other words your only hope was to get a pr lynched.

You have avoid dealing with teh fact that mechanically tweet, luck and dave are town.

for any of them to be scum town would need an extra pr.


You couldnt lynch hectic as he is roundly town read. And his vote would work agains you.

His poe was adora, profii and bob.

[bob3141]

to all

we have

lucky babysitter
wake watcher
tweet neighz.
rolecop
assetic
neighz enabler

vs

known

one shot informed jailkeeper

[bob3141]

one jailkeeper is informed. Thus there is somethign scum needed to know.

two

town has 4 night visits over 4 pr

[bob3141]

normal balance is

3.5 town pr v 0.5 pr

so thats 3 pr plus one gated vs one gated scum pr

one shot can be counted as 0.25

as a full pr wil likely get at most 4 shots off. If that. As a game at most normaly has 5 nights.

[bob3141]

so if the neigbourizer is scum.

That leaves 3 pr

rolecop
watcher
babysitter.

vs

neigbourizer and one shot jail keep.

For that to be balanced town would need more power.

[bob3141]

As ascetic works against town more than scum.

Town has 4 roles that can fail in a given night.

scum normaly has no more than one gated pr role or a few heavily gated pr.

a townie
at random n1 has 1/11 chance of ability failing

n2 - 1/9

n3 - 1/7

on average 1-1.5 night actions for town will fail.
So assetic weakens town more than scum

[bob3141]

added to the fact an assetic is not strong claim to make

Prety much acts as if one town pr was slightly gated in the game

so gamma for balance could be counted as -1/4 town pr

[bob3141]

cake again was for town a negative role.

neighbourizer without enabler (slightly different odds dependign if scum or town is lynched)

day 1 1/13 of being lycnhed - 1/9 being night killed
day 2 1/11 and 1/7-1/8

at worse something like 40-45% chance of neigbourizer not living to day 3. based on random odds.

neighbouizer with enabler

2/13 and 2/9 day one
2/11 and 2/-2/8 day two.

odds are somethign like 80% town would eith lose its neigbourizer or its pr would be disabled

So enabler reduces number of times that the neighbourizer can increase the neighbourhood. Thus acts in the end as if neighbourizer had some sort of xshot gating

[bob3141]

so enabler either -1/4 or -1/2 to a weak role.


so 4pr and something like -1/2 pr from enabler and assetic

[Wake1]

You know, I wanted setup speculation earlier, but now I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed by it.

Who here 100% currently refuses to lynch Lucky/dave slot today?

[Wake1]

The way I understand it, Wake and I are mech town.

That makes the lynch pool {MT, Clidd, Profii, Bob, Adorable}. MT I think is town based on meta. Nobody seems to think you are scum. If I'm right on MT, and everyone else is right on you, then mafia is in {Profii, Bob, Adorable} and with 1 mislynch remaining we cannot lose.

I don't see that at all.

Neither of us are confirmed and the more you argue for that point the more I want to break your neck.

[Adorable]

I'm being setup for a mislynch. That Hectic kill makes no sense since that would just put 3 vt claims setup as lynch meaning 2 scums basically outed themselves by killing a vt claim. If I was scum I would have killed a pr and not kill a vt claim.

WINOF much?

You couldnt kill dave bacause of wake. Or you were afraid to take the guilty.

You cant kill tweet as that confirms all the pr claims.

You cant kill wake as agin if you kill him it confirms the other 2.

In other words your only hope was to get a pr lynched.

You have avoid dealing with teh fact that mechanically tweet, luck and dave are town.

for any of them to be scum town would need an extra pr.

You are twisting my words. I never suggested on lynching a pr. Morning and profii came into the thread suspecting a pr is scum, I had all the pr as a town lean last day and when I saw Morning and profii saying a scum is in the pr, I wasn't expecting a scum to be in the pr, also I was told a mini normal setup has 4 town pr and we have seen 3 town pr die and 3 pr are alive. Looks like to me you are taking advantage of my inexperience on the mini normal setup.


You couldnt lynch hectic as he is roundly town read. And his vote would work agains you.

His poe was adora, profii and bob.

[Adorable]

I'm being setup for a mislynch. That Hectic kill makes no sense since that would just put 3 vt claims setup as lynch meaning 2 scums basically outed themselves by killing a vt claim. If I was scum I would have killed a pr and not kill a vt claim.

WINOF much?

You couldnt kill dave bacause of wake. Or you were afraid to take the guilty.

You cant kill tweet as that confirms all the pr claims.

You cant kill wake as agin if you kill him it confirms the other 2.

In other words your only hope was to get a pr lynched.

You have avoid dealing with teh fact that mechanically tweet, luck and dave are town.

for any of them to be scum town would need an extra pr.


You couldnt lynch hectic as he is roundly town read. And his vote would work agains you.

His poe was adora, profii and bob.

You are twisting my words. I never suggested on lynching a pr. Morning and profii came into the thread suspecting a pr is scum, I had all the pr as a town lean last day and when I saw Morning and profii saying a scum is in the pr, I wasn't expecting a scum to be in the pr, also I was told a mini normal setup has 4 town pr and we have seen 3 town pr die and 3 pr are alive. Looks like to me you are taking advantage of my inexperience on the mini normal setup.

[Adorable]

it's probable that either A.) bob is scum with lucky or B.) adorable is scum with profii.

what do you think of the possibility both scum is in the VTs, clidd? If so, i think that makes bob town

So it's either pr + vt or it's bob + profii. I find it interesting bob and profii are not interacting with each other and bob votes me instead of profii.

What is your read o proffi. You ahve been refusing to give one at all. All of this day.

Do you scum read him, do you town read him. And why

I don't like profii's silence in the game and I'm starting to lean scum on him. Both of you have been suspicious.

[Adorable]

bob is unwilling to listen to anything i say. He let's his own setup spec confirm bias him into thinking i must be scum. He gives me several repetitive questions, I do my best to try and answer them (they're a mess), but it's never good enough for him and some of his posts have been really hurting my feelings calling me names.

[LuckyLuciano]

The way I understand it, Wake and I are mech town.

That makes the lynch pool {MT, Clidd, Profii, Bob, Adorable}. MT I think is town based on meta. Nobody seems to think you are scum. If I'm right on MT, and everyone else is right on you, then mafia is in {Profii, Bob, Adorable} and with 1 mislynch remaining we cannot lose.

I don't see that at all.

Neither of us are confirmed and the more you argue for that point the more I want to break your neck.

I mean, if you want to lose that badly...

[clidd]

I don't understand much about what Bob is talking about, but I suppose is NAI that mechanical language.