Micro 940: A Normal Blitz II - Game Over

[humaneatingmonkey]

describe the change that you're making

[HoldenGolden]

Simply put: Aggression.

Both in the last blitz and the newbie for example I correctly pinned scum down for the right reasons (You and 3b respectively game wise) but end up not following through pushing them because I'm cautious or get side track.

[humaneatingmonkey]

yes you seem more accusatory and it's pinging me

[humaneatingmonkey]

you're scum, aren't you?

[humaneatingmonkey]

HG how do you feel when i tell you that im not townreading you

Relieved. Would hate to find out you were scum trying to buddy me again.

Nice curious George joke btw

Shiki is HEM town?

what's the purpose of asking shiki if you think im not scum buddying you?

[humaneatingmonkey]

why are you relieved that im scum trying to buddy you instead of scum trying to shade you

[HoldenGolden]

George and Datnsi, what do you think about my proposed Neighbor gambit?

Pedit: that's a pretty big accusation monkey. But I admire your balls. Sadly I didnt roll scum.
Ppedit: oh I thought that was an obvious joke since you said we are using Shiki as our meta dictionary. I have my own read on you which is a townlean.
Pppedit: Because I have trouble picking up on it I am being buddy case in point the newbie where it took me till day 3 to even suspect it?

[HoldenGolden]

why are you relieved that im scum trying to buddy you instead of scum trying to shade you

Wait. Do you read 195 as a scum lean accusation?

[Datisi]

George and Datnsi, what do you think about my proposed Neighbor gambit?

not much? my current ~best bet~ is also that they're neighbors, but if i recall correctly they've been given one last chance to confirm if they're masons or not, so i'm kinda waiting on that.

[humaneatingmonkey]

I read 195 as faking paranoia over me.

[humaneatingmonkey]

VOTE: HoldenGolden I think this is scum

[HoldenGolden]

I read 195 as faking paranoia over me.

How is that faking paranoia? Because I bring up an if statement where you are scum directly referencing our last game?

Saying someone isnt buddy =/= saying someone is shading. I dont understand that gap in logic.

[HoldenGolden]

UNVOTE: HEM

I forgot my vote was there

[HoldenGolden]

George and Datnsi, what do you think about my proposed Neighbor gambit?

not much? my current ~best bet~ is also that they're neighbors, but if i recall correctly they've been given one last chance to confirm if they're masons or not, so i'm kinda waiting on that.

It's more do you agree that hoctacs posting makes sense if it is some sort of reaction test.

I see holes in logic for if they are Mason/neighbors/ or scum

[humaneatingmonkey]

Hmm

[Datisi]

It's more do you agree that hoctacs posting makes sense if it is some sort of reaction test.

i agree, but i have no clue what he's trying to accomplish.

[humaneatingmonkey]

You said you're relieved as if you've decided I'm town just because I'm scumread you, as if you were suspicious that I'm scum, but that's the flimsiest reason to decide I'm town there.

But you said I'm a townlean. Why am I a townlean?

[humaneatingmonkey]

I'm not phrasing this properly and this is because I'm alt-tabbing during work.

[HoldenGolden]

You said you're relieved as if you've decided I'm town just because I'm scumread you, as if you were suspicious that I'm scum, but that's the flimsiest reason to decide I'm town there.

But you said I'm a townlean. Why am I a townlean?

That post had nothing to do with my read on you. It's literally me saying that I'm glad I'm not getting buddyed since you daid you arent town reading me. Ahich only can happen if you were scum.

The short story on the town lean; I think there is a couple of spots where you could of exploited posts to suit a mafia agenda (George's confusion for example) and have done pro-town moves like the issuing of the refusal to accept backpedals from Hoctac/ulmatal rather than opening the door for later confusion

[Hiraki]

This doesn't sound like a town line of logic and it feels rather forced given the prior posts before it.

What sounds like town line of logic here? Why did it feel forced?

I don't understand how townie thinking equates to "how does X see me" which your post implicates.

It indicates that you are playing objectively and are not so much concerned with how you are perceived.

It indicates the opposite.

I think a fair amount of pressure is good on Hiraki, though, because lurking is disadvantageous to the town.

This is scummy.

meta garbage pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrttttttttttttttttt

I think Hiraki is currently a good place for pressure. I do not have any strong reads yet.

So pressure them?

Ohhhh so good Holden. I want you to take it a step further though.

Are you prosing that the lack of townping by hoctac on Madoka is associated? If so, how?

Perhaps. Something to keep in mind for the future rather than now. It just seems very weird and random and definitely a bad attempt at shade.

I don't think Holden is different. Just a little lighter which is nice.

UNVOTE: HEM

I forgot my vote was there

Yuck.

[Hiraki]

I do not understand the point of reading into the masons/neighbor/scumteam claim. This game will not be won over role speculation.

[humaneatingmonkey]

It's kinda important, man. Otherwise, how are you gonna sort Hoctac and Umlaut?

[humaneatingmonkey]

I don't understand how townie thinking equates to "how does X see me" which your post implicates.

it's not "how does X see me". i think you're not understanding what i meant. i didn't want to talk about the mason claim because it would be talked about and their reaction would confirm the role. Meanwhile, GeorgeBailey swooped in and tried to confirm the mason claims — which is against the town win alignment because you're outing your masons.

[humaneatingmonkey]

UNVOTE:

meh. HG's "changing of playstyle" completely explains the weirdness in his approach and i really don't think it's insincere.

[humaneatingmonkey]

you better not be fucking with me, donkey