Mini 2133: XP Mafia II (Game Over)


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Post Post #2850 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2020 2:35 pm

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In post 2833, Pink Ball wrote:@Raya Not really, 'cause my buddy was dying during that day 'cause I was hard bussing him. Barding Ame would be a neat strategy to try to pocket him as that's something I would've been doing during the entire game.

I was waiting for Ame to get paranoid about me, I thought that this day ended without him getting at least a little paranoid about me, he could be a happy scum that I'm following every step he has been doing. But I'm pretty sure he's town and following him has been the correct choice from my perspective.
In post 2841, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 2838, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 2833, Pink Ball wrote:@Raya Not really, 'cause my buddy was dying during that day 'cause I was hard bussing him. Barding Ame would be a neat strategy to try to pocket him as that's something I would've been doing during the entire game.

I was waiting for Ame to get paranoid about me, I thought that this day ended without him getting at least a little paranoid about me, he could be a happy scum that I'm following every step he has been doing. But I'm pretty sure he's town and following him has been the correct choice from my perspective.
He hardclaimed to vig Farkset without a CC. In what universe, could he ever possibly be scum here? This post worries me. Ame is mechtown.
Yes, that's why I'm pretty sure he's town! It's more like "where's Ame's town mentality towards me" other than what his alignment is
These posts are concerning. Ame is mech confirmed IC. There is no “pretty sure” about it. Only way Ame isn’t mech confirmed town, if if someone else CCs to have vigged Farkset. Unless you’re literally doing just that, there is 0 room for doubt.
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Post Post #2851 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2020 2:37 pm

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In post 2846, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 2657, Alisae wrote:I really don't actually think Hectic flips scum tho I think if he's actually scum he just takes the L here.
Repping out so you don't have an L on your record is sinning and I want to believe that Hectic isn't a sinner.

UNVOTE:
Ali was the first one to dismantle Hectic wagon. I was already off of it but it would be a very strange thing for scum!Ali to do. @Titus, if things between you and ABR ever bordered on toxic, do you think that could explain it? If ABR wasn’t in this game, I probably would be agreeing with you on that.
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Post Post #2852 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2020 3:04 pm

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In post 813, Not Known 15 wrote:
In post 767, Ame wrote:So I've been thinking about this and I think it's best I claim. When I die, I become a treestump and the lynch mechanic activates. I've been trying to play in a way so as to draw the night kill, but with two claims now and seeing as FOC's, in particular, suggests a strong PR, I think that's probably not happening. So I'm claiming now to suggest that perhaps vig can aim for me tonight? I think there may be another way to activate the mechanic also because it says it will activate when I die
unless
it's already activated.
Are you insane? Do you want scum to auto - win by roleblocking you without end?

Do NOT join the quest, at least.
I’m starting to wonder if NK15 is just really bad town deathtunelled on me.

@mod, any chance of us getting an extension here?
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Post Post #2853 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2020 3:05 pm

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In post 2844, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 2841, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 2838, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 2833, Pink Ball wrote:@Raya Not really, 'cause my buddy was dying during that day 'cause I was hard bussing him. Barding Ame would be a neat strategy to try to pocket him as that's something I would've been doing during the entire game.

I was waiting for Ame to get paranoid about me, I thought that this day ended without him getting at least a little paranoid about me, he could be a happy scum that I'm following every step he has been doing. But I'm pretty sure he's town and following him has been the correct choice from my perspective.
He hardclaimed to vig Farkset without a CC. In what universe, could he ever possibly be scum here? This post worries me. Ame is mechtown.
Yes, that's why I'm pretty sure he's town! It's more like "where's Ame's town mentality towards me" other than what his alignment is
How is it even possible that he isn’t? How else could Farkset have died? Only way he’s scum is if someone else CC’d him, which no one did, so mech confirmed town.
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Post Post #2854 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2020 3:05 pm

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VOTE: capture
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Post Post #2855 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2020 3:06 pm

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In post 2849, Ame wrote:
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Role Name: Town Bard
Abilities and Cost: twice during the game I may target a player and at the beginning of the next night, that player may use an additional action. Costs 1 XP to do that. My upgraded role is that I get one more shot, and I get barded myself
Actions during each phase: Trained first night, barded Ame and trained second night
Anything else relevant: No.

XP
Starting XP (from your role PM): 1
XP at the end of D1: 1
XP at the end of Quest 1: 1
XP at the end of N1: 2
XP at the end of D2: 1
XP at the end of N2: 1
Current XP: 1

XP needed to upgrade: 2
Have you upgraded (yes/no): Yes
If yes, during which phase: Night 2

Summary: started with 1 XP, got one more from training N1, got one more from FoC's dying, I upgraded during D2 so back to 1 XP, barded Ame which leaves me with 0 XP, but since I got barded myself I could train and I got 1 XP and that's where I am now so I can bard again tonight and train again and so and so until I'm out of shots. Game will probably end before my shots so I think I played the role as was intended.
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Nevermind, you just mistyped your N1 XP. It should be 3 instead of 2, correct?
Technically I ended N1 with 2 and began D2 with 3
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Post Post #2856 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2020 3:07 pm

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In post 2850, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 2833, Pink Ball wrote:@Raya Not really, 'cause my buddy was dying during that day 'cause I was hard bussing him. Barding Ame would be a neat strategy to try to pocket him as that's something I would've been doing during the entire game.

I was waiting for Ame to get paranoid about me, I thought that this day ended without him getting at least a little paranoid about me, he could be a happy scum that I'm following every step he has been doing. But I'm pretty sure he's town and following him has been the correct choice from my perspective.
In post 2841, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 2838, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 2833, Pink Ball wrote:@Raya Not really, 'cause my buddy was dying during that day 'cause I was hard bussing him. Barding Ame would be a neat strategy to try to pocket him as that's something I would've been doing during the entire game.

I was waiting for Ame to get paranoid about me, I thought that this day ended without him getting at least a little paranoid about me, he could be a happy scum that I'm following every step he has been doing. But I'm pretty sure he's town and following him has been the correct choice from my perspective.
He hardclaimed to vig Farkset without a CC. In what universe, could he ever possibly be scum here? This post worries me. Ame is mechtown.
Yes, that's why I'm pretty sure he's town! It's more like "where's Ame's town mentality towards me" other than what his alignment is
These posts are concerning. Ame is mech confirmed IC. There is no “pretty sure” about it. Only way Ame isn’t mech confirmed town, if if someone else CCs to have vigged Farkset. Unless you’re literally doing just that, there is 0 room for doubt.
Yes Raven, I'm saying there's 0 room for doubt, you're saying the same what I'm saying
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Post Post #2857 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2020 3:09 pm

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In post 2856, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 2850, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 2833, Pink Ball wrote:@Raya Not really, 'cause my buddy was dying during that day 'cause I was hard bussing him. Barding Ame would be a neat strategy to try to pocket him as that's something I would've been doing during the entire game.

I was waiting for Ame to get paranoid about me, I thought that this day ended without him getting at least a little paranoid about me, he could be a happy scum that I'm following every step he has been doing. But I'm pretty sure he's town and following him has been the correct choice from my perspective.
In post 2841, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 2838, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 2833, Pink Ball wrote:@Raya Not really, 'cause my buddy was dying during that day 'cause I was hard bussing him. Barding Ame would be a neat strategy to try to pocket him as that's something I would've been doing during the entire game.

I was waiting for Ame to get paranoid about me, I thought that this day ended without him getting at least a little paranoid about me, he could be a happy scum that I'm following every step he has been doing. But I'm pretty sure he's town and following him has been the correct choice from my perspective.
He hardclaimed to vig Farkset without a CC. In what universe, could he ever possibly be scum here? This post worries me. Ame is mechtown.
Yes, that's why I'm pretty sure he's town! It's more like "where's Ame's town mentality towards me" other than what his alignment is
These posts are concerning. Ame is mech confirmed IC. There is no “pretty sure” about it. Only way Ame isn’t mech confirmed town, if if someone else CCs to have vigged Farkset. Unless you’re literally doing just that, there is 0 room for doubt.
Yes Raven, I'm saying there's 0 room for doubt, you're saying the same what I'm saying


Who do you think is the last scum? Knightmare491 was so easy.
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Post Post #2858 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2020 3:13 pm

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In post 767, Ame wrote:So I've been thinking about this and I think it's best I claim. When I die, I become a treestump and the lynch mechanic activates. I've been trying to play in a way so as to draw the night kill, but with two claims now and seeing as FOC's, in particular, suggests a strong PR, I think that's probably not happening. So I'm claiming now to suggest that perhaps vig can aim for me tonight? I think there may be another way to activate the mechanic also because it says it will activate when I die
unless
it's already activated.
So, I’m not following this. Isn’t the lynch mechanic already activated?
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Post Post #2859 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2020 3:16 pm

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In post 1260, Professor Moriarty wrote:
Flight of the Conchords has died. They were...

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Town LordWelcome, Flight of the Conchords, to Mini 2133: XP Mafia II. Your role is
Town Lord.
Your role costs
4 XP
to upgrade.

You have the following abilities:
  • You start with 2 XP, instead of the default 1.
  • Whenever a Public Mechanic is put into play that costs XP to use, you will gain 1 XP.
  • When you die, each living player will gain 1 XP.
You win when all mafia members are dead and at least one town member remains alive.

Farkset has been treestumped. They are dead, but may continue to post in the thread and in any alignment-confirmed PT's. They were...

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Mafia WatcherWelcome, Farkset, to Mini 2133: XP Mafia II. Your role is
Mafia Watcher.
Your role costs
4 XP
to upgrade.

[REDACTED]

Each night, you may target another player. You will learn the names of all other players who targeted your target with an action that night. For each player that you see visiting your target, you will gain 1 XP.

You win when the mafia control 50% of all living players or nothing can prevent this from occurring.

In addition, the following Public Mechanics have been put into play:

[Gift]
During the night, any player may choose to give any amount of XP to another player. The person using this action loses that much XP, and the target gains that much. If the target dies that night, the action fails, but if the user dies, it succeeds.

[Lynch]
All players may vote to lynch another player using VOTE: Player or
Vote: Player
. Once a majority is reached, the day ends and that player dies.
Oh nm, I obviously misunderstood.
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Post Post #2860 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2020 3:30 pm

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wrote:Setup Specific Rules:
I. XP
Each player in this game will have a certain amount of XP. XP can be gained by some night actions, and can be spent to power abilities. Each player starts with 1 XP unless otherwise specified, and players can never have less than 0 XP. Players are always aware of how much XP they have.
It is public knowledge that the Mafia's factional kill costs 1 XP to carry out
. The Mafia member making the kill may spend an additional 1 XP (for a total of 2) to make the kill a strongman kill, meaning it cannot be stopped by anything except for a commuter.

II. Training
Each player, by default, is allowed to Train during the night. This takes the place of another action and cannot be used alongside any action.
When a player Trains, they gain 1 XP. This is an action and can be blocked or seen with Follower, but it is not considered a visit and therefore cannot be seen by Tracker, Motion Detector, Voyeur, or Watcher.
@Ame, I cannot confirm training according to this.
In post 1804, Knightmare491 wrote:It's 12 am here so goodnight, if I get lynched then like I said one scum between ginngie/LC and one between Pine/momo/raya I think.
In post 1806, Knightmare491 wrote:1 xp, started with 0
In post 1808, Knightmare491 wrote:
I want to upgrade tho : P

trained, didn't get xp
ABR is probably spewed town from this. This is why I think Knight did the kill.

But I think N2 no kill is most likely a result of scum not having XP and only training prevents scum from killing. They can upgrade and kill at the same time, only town cannot do both, if I’m understanding this correctly.
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Post Post #2861 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2020 3:40 pm

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Post Post #2862 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2020 3:41 pm

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In post 2819, Ame wrote:@Alisae, why self hammer?
i didn't hammer yet but im willing to tbh
securing a lynch is good and we have the mislynch to use
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Post Post #2863 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2020 3:43 pm

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titus
if I was scum I just concede here
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Post Post #2864 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2020 3:43 pm

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this isn't a game I can win, and its not a win I would want to put the time or energy into
I would rather just go next
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Post Post #2865 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2020 3:47 pm

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also im not exactly in the most amazing deepwolf position to turn this game into a win
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Post Post #2866 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2020 3:48 pm

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Why self hammer yesterday I mean? Also if you're willing to do so today, is that the same as conceding?
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Post Post #2867 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2020 3:51 pm

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oh
because deadline
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Post Post #2868 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2020 3:51 pm

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also no because conceding means the game is over like
now
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Post Post #2869 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2020 3:58 pm

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tho also sometimes as scum I'm delusional and I think I can squeeze out wins when in reality I just can't.
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Post Post #2870 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2020 5:08 pm

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I have no clue who is the last scum and can probably find town reasons for everyone but I have to base it on the fact that NK15 looks like he is sorting less than everyone else. While other slots are going back and forth and questioning their reads, he continues to remain deathtunelled. I would honestly expect town!NK15 to be having at least some slight doubts here but haven’t seen any so far. And he still has only given one townread so far, which of course is Ame.

VOTE: NK15
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Post Post #2871 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2020 5:56 pm

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Post Post #2872 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2020 10:12 pm

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Not Lynch Pile

Raven is town
Raya is playing really townie today
Titus town- If Hectic replaced out there as scum, I'd be livid.
PineARB town mechanically - teach and alchemist probably not on same team
NK is town. wouldn't have defended mastina

Could be Convinced

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Lynch Pile

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Post Post #2873 (ISO) » Fri May 15, 2020 10:20 pm

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I don't see it. It literally has to be PB. I'll do a meta dive on him tomorrow.
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Post Post #2874 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 1:17 am

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In post 2872, Ame wrote:
Not Lynch Pile

Raven is town
Raya is playing really townie today
Titus town- If Hectic replaced out there as scum, I'd be livid.
PineARB town mechanically - teach and alchemist probably not on same team
NK is town. wouldn't have defended mastina

Could be Convinced

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It's time to take another look at Ginnie/TSE
In post 2555, Creature wrote:I'm not willing to lynch Alisae, Raya, Raven, Ame

Might be missing someone
This is a post I’m very certain I’ve never seen scum!Creature make + LC was clearly not a Mastina buddy. As for PB, why did bus Knight? He was in no danger of being lynched. Ali is largely responsible for dismantling Hectic wagon.

Only thing that makes me doubt NK scum, is he plays like that as town as well but he’s still not sorting and has no tr other than you on D3. I think Ginnie definitely did derp in Quest but did she do that as town or scum? Also Titus has caught two scum with her VCA, so I don’t think we should arbitrarily discount it.
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