In post 2793, davesaz wrote:I see something that looks like a fake claim from someone I have thought was scum.
The meme if it even is one (not something I'm qualified to judge) is something I flat out don't recognize or care about.
People who want to screw with things for lols shouldn't play mafia
. Though we do need enough warm bodies to actually fill games.
Okay. I have a fair judgment for what could be construed as a meme. Some objective indicators are <how implausible is the claim itself> and <how does it fit with the context>.
The former is pretty obviously fake.
The latter - it fits with the entire discussion about doing 0% wagon analysis, and people saying earlier that they would treat the wagon as all town.
These "memes" are harmless. Hoctac's not exclusively been playing in memes. Memeing seems like more of a cultural thing, and unless you can make a case that a majority of players would indeed take such a thing seriously (versus you being alone in not recognizing such a meme) I think it's baseless to say people who post these shouldn't play Mafia. If it only impacts your personal solving... there are people to point such instances out.
Do you think that is a scum-motivated fake claim designed to get town to "trust" that the wagon is mechanically all-innocent? You're taking some very surface level illegitimate reasoning to justify your vote on a slot you suspect, and doubling down on it. This the best solving you can do?