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Post Post #450 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 7:16 am

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In post 416, humaneatingmonkey wrote:How about me Hiraki? What did you get out of our 1-on-1?
I disagree with Hiraki's point, that Town shouldn't care about how they are perceived. Town should care about scumhunting AND avoiding a mislynch. If you are town, you should care about not getting lynched yourself.

The problem arises when you ONLY care about staying alive. I don't get that sense from HEM's posts at all.
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Post Post #451 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 7:21 am

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In post 448, Umlaut wrote:Hiraki, the way HEM is saying his post should be interpreted is the way I interpreted it in the first place and really the only one that makes sense. Since you think he's attempting to change the meaning, can you say what you find implausible about the "new" meaning he presents?
Because that route already happened before that post and we are still debating if masons are real.
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In post 416, humaneatingmonkey wrote:How about me Hiraki? What did you get out of our 1-on-1?
I disagree with Hiraki's point, that Town shouldn't care about how they are perceived. Town should care about scumhunting AND avoiding a mislynch. If you are town, you should care about not getting lynched yourself.

The problem arises when you ONLY care about staying alive. I don't get that sense from HEM's posts at all.
Not only is this wrong, it's also irrational in method and logic.
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Post Post #452 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 7:27 am

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i want to ask where is george wrong but i don't want to further derail this game into useless theory talk what do i do
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Post Post #453 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 7:29 am

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In post 418, humaneatingmonkey wrote:I'm still considering if it's an honest mistake that he misread my post.
In post 449, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Yeah I think Hiraki flips scum here.
Monkey what made you go from "maybe benefit of the doubt" to "This is scum"?
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Post Post #454 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 7:30 am

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In post 418, humaneatingmonkey wrote:So now my head is: Is this town!Hiraki too proud to own up to his mistake or is this scum!Hiraki failing to get momentum on his manufactured push?
I think this is scum!Hiraki failing to get momentum on his manufactured push
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Post Post #455 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 7:35 am

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I'm struggling to believe more and more that you actually think that, Hiraki.
In post 417, Hoctac wrote:Let us know your updated read on Madoka after her recent catchup post, George, as well as your reasons for scumleaning the monkey.
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Post Post #456 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 7:40 am

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In post 414, Hiraki wrote:Datisi (slight SR but I am with whoever said it's not worth trying to figure out if "masons" are masons on D1)
Why'd you think Datisi was one of the mason claims, Hiraki?
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Post Post #457 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 7:44 am

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sorry sorry. I really like the post by post catch up, while I don't think I understand her push on Datisi, (the paragraph rhymed and i liked it but i don't get it) it doesn't sound forceful in a way where scum needs a target to push to seem like they're doing something.

I think that post towntells for her due to the effort put into scumhunting.

I think i'm down to choosing between Monkey and Hiraki right now. I don't think this is bussing so one has to be scum or town.

I'm wary of the Hiraki wagon right now because it got really high really fast, and it was started by one of my scumreads.
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Post Post #458 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 7:48 am

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In post 450, GeorgeBailey wrote:The problem arises when you ONLY care about staying alive. I don't get that sense from HEM's posts at all.
Why do you scumread monkey though? The post above seemed to indicate otherwise.
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Post Post #459 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 8:07 am

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Because I think the 1v1 was TvS, they seem to both scumread each other strongly.

HEM is urking me because of his earlier HG push, which felt like he strongly thought HG was town and then changed his mind rather quickly.
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Post Post #460 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 8:13 am

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TvTs exist where two people scumread/tunnel each other and are both town plenty of times. What gives you a feeling this isn't one of those instances?
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Post Post #461 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 8:24 am

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Huh, TvT fights, from my personal experience, usually revolve around stupid pedantics on definitions or non-trivial issues that only Town would care about. Then usually someone's feeling get hurt, or someone rages.
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Post Post #462 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 8:30 am

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In post 459, GeorgeBailey wrote:Because I think the 1v1 was TvS, they seem to both scumread each other strongly.

HEM is urking me because of his earlier HG push, which felt like he strongly thought HG was town and then changed his mind rather quickly.
Huh?
In post 193, humaneatingmonkey wrote:HG how do you feel when i tell you that im not townreading you
Literally the entire push was due to my response to him NOT townreading me and over both the change in playstyle and the confusion of my town lean on him which had not explaintion prior to it.

VOTE: George

The number of misrepresentations of HEM push onto me from a number of players is getting ridiculous. Please actually read the interaction before making commentary on it.
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Post Post #463 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 8:30 am

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Side note: Goat transfer was a success. Goat pen I was not. Goat pen II will be a success.
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Post Post #464 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 8:34 am

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In post 457, GeorgeBailey wrote:sorry sorry. I really like the post by post catch up, while I don't think I understand her push on Datisi, (the paragraph rhymed and i liked it but i don't get it) it doesn't sound forceful in a way where scum needs a target to push to seem like they're doing something.

I think that post towntells for her due to the effort put into scumhunting.

I think i'm down to choosing between Monkey and Hiraki right now.
I don't think this is bussing so one has to be scum or town.

I'm wary of the Hiraki wagon right now because it got really high really fast, and it was started by one of my scumreads.
I have a Billy goat to your head. It's ready to baaaaahhh you to hell unless you pick one or the other. Which one do you pick.
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Post Post #465 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 8:40 am

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Hmm, both Hiraki and George have scum equity but I think Hiraki's stubbornness and lack of concern for his appearance might be town-indicative.

VOTE: GeorgeBailey

This is revenge for Fusion.
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Post Post #466 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 8:49 am

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In post 465, Hoctac wrote:This is revenge for Fusion.
Don't give me flashbacks like that
In post 464, HoldenGolden wrote:Which one do you pick.
VOTE: Hiraki
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Post Post #467 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 10:05 am

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In post 456, Hoctac wrote:
In post 414, Hiraki wrote:Datisi (slight SR but I am with whoever said it's not worth trying to figure out if "masons" are masons on D1)
Why'd you think Datisi was one of the mason claims, Hiraki?
Oops. You're right. I got things mixed up in my head.

I am VT btw. (I think I am at or near L-1 but I've counted 3 times and miscounted at least twice on that front) since HEM is not happening today -

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This is L-1.
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Post Post #468 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 11:12 am

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In post 466, GeorgeBailey wrote:
In post 465, Hoctac wrote:This is revenge for Fusion.
Don't give me flashbacks like that
In post 464, HoldenGolden wrote:Which one do you pick.
VOTE: Hiraki
Good. Good.

Now explain it. Why Hiraki over Monkey.
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Post Post #469 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 11:19 am

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In post 465, Hoctac wrote:Hiraki's stubbornness and lack of concern for his appearance might be town-indicative.
What do you think scum!Hiraki would have done?
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Post Post #470 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 11:22 am

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I don't find it hard to believe that scum!Hiraki, while parroting the truism
town don't care
, would project that he, in fact, doesn't care.
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Post Post #471 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 11:33 am

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Good point. Although, I think scum!Hiraki might've at least admitted his mistake and backed off, rather than continue voting for you after it seemed EVERYONE was disagreeing with his interpretation of the original post.
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Post Post #472 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 11:38 am

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What a predicament
In post 468, HoldenGolden wrote:Now explain it. Why Hiraki over Monkey.
Apparently I misrepped HEM's push on you, so I don't really have a reason to suspect him. I said previously that I don't think HEM is LAMIST so that leaves me with Hiraki.
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Post Post #473 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 11:39 am

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In post 462, HoldenGolden wrote:
In post 459, GeorgeBailey wrote:Because I think the 1v1 was TvS, they seem to both scumread each other strongly.

HEM is urking me because of his earlier HG push, which felt like he strongly thought HG was town and then changed his mind rather quickly.
Huh?
In post 193, humaneatingmonkey wrote:HG how do you feel when i tell you that im not townreading you
Literally the entire push was due to my response to him NOT townreading me and over both the change in playstyle and the confusion of my town lean on him which had not explaintion prior to it.

VOTE: George

The number of misrepresentations of HEM push onto me from a number of players is getting ridiculous. Please actually read the interaction before making commentary on it.
In post 465, Hoctac wrote:Hmm, both Hiraki and George have scum equity but I think Hiraki's stubbornness and lack of concern for his appearance might be town-indicative.

VOTE: GeorgeBailey

This is revenge for Fusion.
He backed off and became open to voting someone else since #414. The only thing he didn't do is admit he made a mistake — which, to be fair, I don't think town!Hiraki would do either.
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Post Post #474 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 11:40 am

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I'm not sure why #462 and #465 is quoted, so please ignore.
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