Newbie 2004: Trash Panada Hour. Redux! GAME OVER

[Formerfish]

I dont look at day 1 reads as who could be scum with who.

I read people as scummy and then try to get the scummiest among them lynched, and will work my way through my list from most wanted dead to a compromise eventually if needed.

I think that they have acted scummy in their own rights, and brass is where my focus is now with ironcat being replaced.

[lilith2013]

You just said that you pivoted away from ironcat to find his partner though

[Formerfish]

You just said that you pivoted away from ironcat to find his partner though

Right, because there are 2 people who are scum, and now since that slot is being replaced i am looking for the other person who I think could be scum.

Brass has shown an inconsistency in his posting and seemingly forgot about his Gib sr when he explained why copy was doing the same stuff as gib.

Do you want to talk about anything relevant or keep pushing things that dont mean anything?

[lilith2013]

In your posts to brass you seem to imply that brass and votato are partners, but if that’s the case then ironcat can’t also be scum. I’m trying to understand where you’re coming from with the brass/votato comment if you still think ironcat is scum.

[Formerfish]

What does me answering this do to help you figure out what I am?

I don't think that my hubris is going to prevent me from entertaining the idea that i could be wrong about things, but until im shown evidence that disproves my theories im not apt to change how i think in a whim.

People are doing scummy things and they are being sorted.

Don't get stuck too much on teams right now because thats bullshit soft science on day 1 when we have no flips to work with in making associative reads.

[brassherald]

You just said that you pivoted away from ironcat to find his partner though

Right, because there are 2 people who are scum, and now since that slot is being replaced i am looking for the other person who I think could be scum.

Brass has shown an inconsistency in his posting and seemingly forgot about his Gib sr when he explained why copy was doing the same stuff as gib.

Do you want to talk about anything relevant or keep pushing things that dont mean anything?

I said Kat was scummier at that time. I only have one vote my man

[Elmo TeH AzN]

osuka replaces Iamironcat.

[Formerfish]

You just said that you pivoted away from ironcat to find his partner though

Right, because there are 2 people who are scum, and now since that slot is being replaced i am looking for the other person who I think could be scum.

Brass has shown an inconsistency in his posting and seemingly forgot about his Gib sr when he explained why copy was doing the same stuff as gib.

Do you want to talk about anything relevant or keep pushing things that dont mean anything?

I said Kat was scummier at that time. I only have one vote my man

That doesnt explain how you now have a town lean on Gib.

See. You went from this

"Oh yeah, Gib is scum too... but copy yo."

To having a town lean on Gib.

To you now saying you only have one vote, which is not an explanation of any sort, its a deflection.

[brassherald]

Reads change over time. It's part of playing a game

[osuka]

alright nerds please don't lynch anyone before I have a chance to catch up here

UNVOTE:

[Formerfish]

Reads change over time. It's part of playing a game

Yes, and im asking you to explain the change, because im not seeing it in your iso.

Im seeing you make statements that taken apart dont make sense as a whole.

You are either being obtuse right now or you just dont know how to respond because your scum and dont have a good reason.

[osuka]

@mod: are you opposed to giving us an extra day or two on d1 since we're still missing one replacement (I think) and I need to read through 25 pages?

[Elmo TeH AzN]

@mod: are you opposed to giving us an extra day or two on d1 since we're still missing one replacement (I think) and I need to read through 25 pages?

Right now we need no replacement and I'll give you an extra day. I'm not giving more due to the game stalling out and having to prod half the player list.


If you need to send a pm saying V/LA I won't prod you then as an official one.

[osuka]

@mod: are you opposed to giving us an extra day or two on d1 since we're still missing one replacement (I think) and I need to read through 25 pages?

Right now we need no replacement and I'll give you an extra day. I'm not giving more due to the game stalling out and having to prod half the player list.


If you need to send a pm saying V/LA I won't prod you then as an official one.

no worries I just thought we had another slot empty

[feathers]

Welcome, osuka!

[osuka]

haha theyre already starting to trust me. this should be easy.

shit wrong thread, please ignore

whatever the scum version of lamist is called (lamiss?), this is a textbook example of that

[osuka]

Hola, also had some mafia history in other places. Have never played a mafia game which lasted this long tho. I don't get the vote for Votato so VOTE:

gibus

this is known as the RVS, or Random Vote Stage, where people vote for silly reasons to get the game started, and then we gradually progress to more serious posting as we get a few bandwagons going.

Fine, VOTE: votato

you shouldn't flipflop like that makes you look flaky

VOTE: imironcat

that's very scummy
VOTE: freddiethelady

[osuka]

Aren't we all vanilla townies.. VOTE: feathers

yes... yes we are

[osuka]

Gibus you’re like a ping pong ball with your votes. It’s looking sloppy and thoughtless. At some point I’m going to ask you to justify that. Are you prepared to do that?

Lul I'm trying to get us out of RVS. But by saying this nobody is going to respond to me to avoid being the first proper wagon. Huh.

and your strategy to take the game out of RVS is to vote randomly? brilliant

[osuka]

I’m trying to learn the distinction also. its like throwing darts at a wall. I think the simple answer is that scum will try to be as inconspicuous as possible. Paying close attention to what a person says and how they say can Give you subtle hints. I’m not good at this yet but a healthy dose of skepticism will help you start to weed out leading clues vs gibberish. It’s not rocket surgery but it does take some practice.

obvscum

[osuka]

Mmh, alright. Just a way to prep the game fully with thought contributions before NKs start I suppose.

Well, my current impressions:
I talked about trusting votato earlier, their behavior still holds I think. Giving pro-town advice, calling out disruptive behavior, asking people to justify stances etc.
Freddie too, maybe. Why did Formerfish say to ask you why he voted Brass in the original day 1, by the way, do you know?

Gibus.. is sus. I was reading some guides and games and it seems one of the tells for mafia is changing votes quickly without conviction.. it's almost like he just wants anyone to get lynched and doesn't care who. But then again could just be impatience with rvs (which is also supposed to be mafia behavior?).
Also, Ironcat, Formerfish, and Lilith haven't been posting much recently or just did it to vote bandwagon, and mafia is supposed to want to lurk more iirc to not draw attention? So I guess I'm keeping my vote on Lilith for now even though I initially did it for a silly rvs reason.

gibus does

not

read mafia right now but I'd love to hear your reasons as to why freddie is town

[osuka]

Gibus seems too sloppy to be suspicious but it could be an act.

I’m suspicious that Lilith is a little more experienced then she’s letting on. I’m not sure why she jumped on the gibus wagon either. I’d love to hear an explanation since it could be AI.

lilith has a 2015 join date. She's not exactly new to this

[feathers]

My mind changed on Freddie actually.. that was just an early read. In a more recent post I said he was still a no-read either way for me right now. My mind also changed on Gibus and now I see him as solid town. I really recommend reading through the archive first before asking these specific questions personally, lots of stances changed during the 20+ pages.

[osuka]

My mind changed on Freddie actually.. that was just an early read. In a more recent post I said he was still a no-read either way for me right now. My mind also changed on Gibus and now I see him as solid town. I really recommend reading through the archive first before asking these specific questions personally, lots of stances changed during the 20+ pages.

a no-read is hardly a stance at all. Do you read null or do you not read at all?

[osuka]

hahahah I was thinking to myself, ironcat reads as town before I realized that's my fucking slot

what a day