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d1 final vote count
group 1 (7):Daenerys and Dragons, Adorable, Kanna, enomis, Ame, Morning Tweet, Hoctac
group 2 (1):Mohab500
group 3 (3):Cat Scratch Fever, clidd, Raya36
not voting (2):dsjstr, Albert B. Rampage
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enomis has been killed. they were town.
Vote count 2.0
not voting (4):Albert B. Rampage, clidd, dsjstr, Mohab500
with 4 alive, it takes 3 to select a group. day 2 starts now and ends may 31st at 01:20 central US time; in (expired on 2020-05-31 01:20:00)
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Okay, let's look at what we know and attempt to find answers to what we don't. Let me begin.
1) We know that mafia checked the previous game with 1/1/1 distribution from Ame's post. They chose to do a 2/1/0 or a 2/0/1 distribution so they had alynchbait option where no scum dies. The question is, was that group 2 or group 3?
Of course, we know my theory:Spoiler:
2) We know the last scum NK'd enomis from group 3. Why? Well first, let's look at scum-Ame's early day 1 posts.
In post 28, Ame wrote:I looked a bit through the first game. Scum also placed one in each group.I think this opening comes from one of the numbers-oriented players.
Who do you know that is numbers-oriented? How about clidd?
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Here's the theory: If Group 3 was lynchbait, and town didn't go for it, clidd had to kill enomis because he was the only one from group 3 who sheeped me to vote group 1. Lynching group 1 was bad for scum, so clidd hopes to frame the remaining group 3 who were off-wagon to win the game on Day 2.
3) We know scum didn't want to get group 1 lynched, as evidenced by Ame's posts:
So why does Ame change her mind and vote group 1 at the end of the day? Most likely because the final scum said "I got this" and she put her faith in that player's math. Again, who's the numbers guy in the scum team? We know it's not Ame, and we know it's not Raya, so by elimination it has to be the third scum.In post 517, Ame wrote:But I think going the route of minimizing casualties is better for our chances of winning, particularly because we can get more days and scumhunting out of it and will have flips to work off of. Whereas going G1 we are essentially gambling without prior knowledge of who is on the scum team and how they think. Going one of the other groups actually gives us evidence of how they think and we can work from there. Right now we are just random guessing and going in circles.
When we look at Raya's post, who is playing a more straightforward mafia game, she's trying to set up group 3 for a lynch as well:
In post 615, Raya36 wrote:
Isn't that kinda a good thing?In post 613, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Group 3 is for in-betweeners afraid of taking risks but still want to hit at least 1 scum maybe.
4) We know that if we mislynch group 3 today, it's instant-lose. So let's compare me and clidd.In post 624, Raya36 wrote:
This is a good point. Because of this I'll consider group 1 but first I need to actually find 2 or 3 people on it I actually think are scum and so far I'm mostly only seeing scummy players in group 3.In post 617, Albert B. Rampage wrote:The fact that no one from group 2 or 3 has hammered group 1 pretty much confirms my theory of minimal scum in groups 2-3.
He says it's ignorant to want to lynch group 1 but I'm town. What are the main differences between us?In post 456, clidd wrote:''@Clidd, do you have a read on Albert outside of partition composition?''If you want, I can go into details, but basically it is because of the way he is playing. The aggressiveness he showed in defending the idea that group 1 is strategically feasible to be lynched seems to me an ignorant behavior that I see coming from an interpersonal trait characteristic of his profile, where he is probably frustrated/irritated by the gamestate, which makes sense within the scenario in which Town!Albert demonstrates emotional levels that would not make much sense in the Scum!Albert mentality, where he would be aware that his reasoning is fraudulent. In other words, it is my interpretation of the slot to distinguish that his expressions/reactions are within a natural spectrum of conduct, very different from what I feel about Ame, for example (which is forced).
A) I wanted to lynch group 1 from the start, which Raya and Ame didn't want.
B) I was on the final lynch of group 1, and clidd is not.
C) I wanted to avoid casting suspicion on clidd, so I could break the game in the final day and win. clidd wanted to avoid casting suspicion on me, so that group 3 gets lynched day 1, and that I would side with him on day 2.
5) We know that clidd heavily buddied me from day 1.
In post 675, clidd wrote:surprisedIn post 216, clidd wrote:Do you consider Albert to be a verbally strong player ?In post 670, clidd wrote:You are deliberately trolling or are scum, I am still waiting for the explanation of my push and the sudden change of posture on post 542.
6) We know that clidd was setting up group 3 as the day 2 lynch.
In post 677, clidd wrote:From my pov is: Mohab>Enomis>Dsj to scum out of group 1.In post 676, clidd wrote:If I am wrong and we won, I will be extremely surprised to have bad reads about group 3.
Especially considering that I expressed a scumread on Mohab yesterday and was scumhunting in group 3 without ever publicly suspecting clidd. Clidd has been mirroring this and suspecting Mohab since day 1 as well. All his actions make sense coming into today with his evaluation of me thus far.In post 212, clidd wrote:
I can understand your reasoning, but I believe that you are underestimating group 3. The pressure, in my opinion, would be in the lynch of group 2, considering the attempts to push during the day, and they only eased when I was able to participate more actively in the game, this clearly does not seem normal to me.In post 204, Morning Tweet wrote:If i were setting up these groups, it would seem really obvious to me as scum that Group #3 is going to receive the most lynch pressure.
It's got an extra player over group #2, so in theory, town would think they get higher chances of hitting scum in there. This is subjective, but they didn't put any of the players that i know are good at seeming towny in there (like Cat, Ame, clidd, Kanna). Someone in group 3 admitted they usually get scumread.
And now, indeed, the majority of the game seems to be having suspicions towards group #3. Even all three group #3 members seem to suspect group #3, lmao
i do lean town on Mohab and Enomis as well. Dsjr i dont have an explicit read on yet but i havent found him scummy per se
At this point, im feeling there's 2-3 scum in group one and 0-1 scum outside
I feel like group #2 has a better chance of hitting scum, and if there is no scum outside group #1, it limits our losses a bit as well
7) Finally, I would say that clidd has been acting like he knows too much.
He knows what he's doing. He sees where the game needs to go for him to win. There isn't any doubt or second thoughts in his play.In post 668, clidd wrote:I agree about the game state indicating 2 scums on group 1, but I highly doubt that they are 3 because of the reads that I have on group 3. It would be an insult to my analysis ability to say that group 3 is entirely town, so my solve at the moment is 2-0-1.
Now that I've laid out my case, you should feel confident in the fact that I am one of the top scumhunters on this site. I just completed another game where I nailed all of the scum and accurately predicted their strategy on day 2. Rest assured that it's normal for me to see the matrix. I'm not trying to bamboozle you. Even if I were, lynching clidd does not end the game if he's town. Lynching dsjstr or Mohab will.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.- Albert B. Rampage
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EBWOP about clidd buddying me, the quote didn't work, so here it is:
There you have it, guys. I want to be the one to hammer clidd.In post 675, clidd wrote:
I'm not surprised, my reads already pointed out that you were town long before.In post 654, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I am now confirmed town or the only scum in groups 2 and 3 and I just put both my scumbuddies at L-1 twiceGuard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.- clidd
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Yeah, exactly. Killing me leaves clidd as the only player from group 2, and group 3 who he has been scumreading all of day 1 can easily OMGUS / gang up on him.In post 736, Mohab500 wrote:Wouldn't that be too obvious/implicit?Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.- clidd
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"Lynching group 1 was bad for scum, so clidd hopes to frame the remaining group 3 who were off-wagon to win the game on Day 2."
It makes no sense. Group 3 was the most scummy group among the three groups and I worked on the hypothesis that there would be at least one scum among them throughout the day. If Scum!Clidd really wanted to frame the group, it would make more sense to have kept Enomis alive, as there would be 3 push options. Off-wagon doesn't mean anything.- Albert B. Rampage
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Mohab and dsjstr are obviously fucking town, look at these posts. We know for a fact that there's only 1 scum in groups 2 and 3 combined, and both of these guys are trying to self-lynch lol.In post 86, dsjstr wrote:I was also thinking of voting for group 3 tbh
Group 1 is too risky and if there is 1 member in group 2 then even without reads it would be a 50/50 we get them the next day.
This game is solved.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.- dsjstr
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Looking at the VC the only person who actually voted for group 1 was enomis. Something that stuck out to me other than the fact that none of us lynched the mafia was the fact that Ame lynched herself.@AlbertNow before I continue I want to understand what was the purpose of your performance with Adorable?- Albert B. Rampage
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Excuse me?In post 740, dsjstr wrote:Looking at the VC the only person who actually voted for group 1 was enomis.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.- Albert B. Rampage
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?In post 737, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
Yeah, exactly. Killing me leaves clidd as the only player from group 2, and group 3 who he has been scumreading all of day 1 can easily OMGUS / gang up on him.In post 736, Mohab500 wrote:Wouldn't that be too obvious/implicit?- Albert B. Rampage
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What performance? What the fuck are you talking about? Make some sense!In post 740, dsjstr wrote:@Albert Now before I continue I want to understand what was the purpose of your performance with Adorable?Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.- dsjstr
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That's why I'm trying to get a better understanding of what happened in between VC's.In post 742, Albert B. Rampage wrote:You know group 1 wouldn't be lynched if it wasn't for me, right?- clidd
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I think you played it wrong here. I had you as a strong TR, so there was a greater chance that you would convince me that Mohab / Dsj were scums than trying to force this narrative.In post 739, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
Mohab and dsjstr are obviously fucking town, look at these posts. We know for a fact that there's only 1 scum in groups 2 and 3 combined, and both of these guys are trying to self-lynch lol.In post 86, dsjstr wrote:I was also thinking of voting for group 3 tbh
Group 1 is too risky and if there is 1 member in group 2 then even without reads it would be a 50/50 we get them the next day.
This game is solved.- Albert B. Rampage
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If you mean MorningTweet and not Adorable, since I was death tunneling group 1, people thought I might be the chief conspirator of a 1-1-1 scum partition and trying to win in 1 fell swoop by lynching group 1. MT put group 1 at L-1 for me to hammer so that I could prove I didn't hammer, which would make me instantly win if I were scum with another buddy outside group 1.In post 740, dsjstr wrote:@Albert Now before I continue I want to understand what was the purpose of your performance with Adorable?Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.- clidd
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Ok, ok.In post 742, Albert B. Rampage wrote:You know group 1 wouldn't be lynched if it wasn't for me, right?- clidd
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Now this theater makes sense ^In post 632, Albert B. Rampage wrote:MT since we're married now let's do a quick exercise to confirm me as town.
Vote group 1. I'll make a post. Then unvote. I will prove I didn't hammer. - clidd
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