Mini 2133: XP Mafia II (Game Over)

[Albert B. Rampage]

I do agree with the rest and Raven's case though

The rest of the case is equally bullshit.

Of course I will take NK15's arguments into account because he could be town, even if he's part of my POE.

[Alisae]

What has Raya said no to?
Important question

[Titus]

What has Raya said no to?
Important question

Lynching me and you as far as I recall.

[Alisae]

What has Raya said no to?
Important question

Lynching me and you as far as I recall.

she was open to lynching me earlier

[Titus]

What has Raya said no to?
Important question

Lynching me and you as far as I recall.

she was open to lynching me earlier

Why not just ask Raya for her PoE then? Why put this question with such negative spin?

[Ame]

Raya could you unvote for a bit?

[Ame]

ABR isn't scum:

That being said:

VOTE: Disable Strongman

HURT: Pine

Pine looks like the weirdest choice in this gamestate… why would you vote there?

-Farkran

Cmon pine made very informative 7 posts, he voted spring in one of them. That makes him obvious scum. *irony*
~ker

[Ame]

^This is really bad.

No, it`s not. Don`t disable lurkers.

More NK town.

[Titus]

ABR isn't scum:

That being said:

VOTE: Disable Strongman

HURT: Pine

Pine looks like the weirdest choice in this gamestate… why would you vote there?

-Farkran

Cmon pine made very informative 7 posts, he voted spring in one of them. That makes him obvious scum. *irony*
~ker

I'm not sure how you get ABR isn't scum from those two posts but I am willing to listen.

[Ame]

On the Kerset side, it's a similar TMI read to how Kerset read Spring as Jester. On the Farkran side, he likes to be right and he wouldn't town read a scum buddy.
Additionally, the way Pine claimed was town. And again—for some reason, people seem to be ignoring this—alchemist and teacher are not mechanically both on the scum team.

The points Raven has brought up are not satisfactory as they are simply indicators of ABR's personality, not his alignment. The "contradiction" that NK brought up as his reason to vote was not a contradiction. ABR fully explained the discrepancy in his and Pine's claim.

[Ame]

I think I know who it is, I am just verifying before posting my case. In the meantime, I ask that you unvote.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I think I know who it is, I am just verifying before posting my case. In the meantime, I ask that you unvote.

I'm around and I'll sheep you before deadline.

[Albert B. Rampage]

5 hours 18 minutes left, plenty of time. I'll be around to avoid no lynch. I will not vote for myself no matter what.

[Raven Branwen]

2949 is one of my 3 scumreads placing a naked vote on me. You have less than 24 hours to determine a lynch that is not on conftown, you better get to it quickly.

That is precisely the point. Why do you have both me and NK15 in your PoE? Do you understand why that makes no logical sense?

[Raven Branwen]

ABR isn't scum:

That being said:

VOTE: Disable Strongman

HURT: Pine

Pine looks like the weirdest choice in this gamestate… why would you vote there?

-Farkran

Cmon pine made very informative 7 posts, he voted spring in one of them. That makes him obvious scum. *irony*
~ker

How are you getting that from these posts? Your NK15 case made sense but unless I’m missing something, none of these posts disprove my case in the slightest.

And my case precisely is why it makes no logical sense for him to have both me and NK15 in his PoE. Please explain the townie thought process behind that, because I can’t see it.

[Ame]

It does make logical sense.

[Pink Ball]

@Titus you said that if NK15's wagon got more traction you would vote there, right? 'Cause I'm still voting him

[Raven Branwen]

@NK

1. Why did you not state you forgot to train earlier?
2. How did you forget to train?
3. If you are low on XP why are you not voting for Pokerus?
4.

Why are you ignoring that SpringRaven has been spewed town by kerset

5. Where do you believe Raya was acting defensively and based on the examples you give, how do you think she should have reacted to them?
6. What is your read on GinnieSoulEnergy and MomoSae?

Also if you're low on XP why didn't you ask me for XP when I offered at the start of the day?

I don`t need you to give me xp next night. I can train. Then I have 4xp and can upgrade.

This post was the main reason I voted NK15. This would be an extremely odd post for scum to make given the mechanics. I only voted NK15 because of PoE but didn’t really feel confident on it. I actually do think ABR is scum and nothing he has posted today has changed my mind. His entire argument seems to consist of Titus is bad at mafia, not why he’s town and he hasn’t explained why he has both NK15 and me in his PoE nor made any credible attempt to debunk my case. @Ame’s defense of ABR unlike NK15, makes absolutely no sense to me. At best that’s NAI.

Unless/until he provides a credible reason for why he thinks it makes logical sense to have both me and NK15 in his PoE, my vote is staying.

[Pink Ball]

Sure Raven, but I was talking with Titus, because Ame thinks ABR is town

[Titus]

@Titus you said that if NK15's wagon got more traction you would vote there, right? 'Cause I'm still voting him

Yes but ABR is L minus 1

[Pink Ball]

Is he?? I thought he was max L-2

[Ame]

NK is also town. It's neither of them. It's also not PB.

[Pink Ball]

We have 4 hours and 13 minutes

[Ame]

Please unvote while I write up the case.

[Titus]

Is he?? I thought he was max L-2

Four votes is L minus 1 I believe.