Mini Normal 2141: The World of Tomorrow [Game over!]

[Quick]

And you have not escaped the leash Nauci. RN I have thee Scum team as NPOM, R2R and yourself.

Lol is this supposed to intimidate me or something

No, it's meant to emphasize who the Scum team is.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Don't worry Nauci the more Quick fires at you it just makes you look more towny.

[Quick]

Quick likes to use the throw crap on the wall and see what sticks theory.

Please just post a cat picture if you are going to do this.

[Nauci]

VOTE: nauci

Mindless comments.

This should be worth looking at.

You know, it still really rubs me the wrong way that he said that when A: one of my comments long before that was the first serious read post in the game, and B: his posts right after that were mindless fluff

[Blair]

I still like my votato case, but we have some time and I want to try something else on for a moment

VOTE: ready2rock

[Quick]

Can we just end the day already? I am pretty sure we have this won at this point.

Peter is free to throw down the hammer.

[Nauci]

Anyone could be faking anything. It's called gut feeling.

For reference.

This is technically a misrepresentation

His read on me is one of the few times he gave a reason (in the posts just before that he says it's because I was worried about being biased about Blair and he thought that was more likely to come from town? Idk I'm mobile posting so I'm not checking for exact quotes.) He only says it's gut feeling when asked why when it could be faked, and I think he meant gut feeling in the way that any of us can only really make any of our reads because of gut feeling?

I think it was way too minor a thing to give a fairly strong read for and that it was potentially lazing pocketing to get me off of his back, but that doesn't make it accurate to say he only gave "gut feeling" as the basis at that point

[Quick]

Anyone could be faking anything. It's called gut feeling.

For reference.

This is technically a misrepresentation

His read on me is one of the few times he gave a reason (in the posts just before that he says it's because I was worried about being biased about Blair and he thought that was more likely to come from town? Idk I'm mobile posting so I'm not checking for exact quotes.) He only says it's gut feeling when asked why when it could be faked, and I think he meant gut feeling in the way that any of us can only really make any of our reads because of gut feeling?

I think it was way too minor a thing to give a fairly strong read for and that it was potentially lazing pocketing to get me off of his back, but that doesn't make it accurate to say he only gave "gut feeling" as the basis at that point

:eyebrows:

[Nauci]

TMIing

?

[Quick]

TMIing

?

So glad you understand me so well.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Quick is getting to the point where his tunneling is anti-town. I'm not saying he's scum because he appears invested, but he's still not actually helping find scum if he gets town mislynched. I would hope actual town could see that I and most likely Nauci are town.

[Nauci]

If you look at Nauci's reads list, that is a complete tell of the Buddy attempt given Nauci knows I like to be different/unpredictable/unique, which I do like to be those things. Plush she admits she had meta dived me so she has every reason to budy me with a TMI read on me.

[votato]

yeah quicks style is shit, but in this instance there is a larger case. none of you are doing anything to address the case. you are trying to form counterwagons or engage in ad hominem.

[mavsfan41]

but now you say that votato is lean town, which means by your own logic that NPOM has to be scum, right? (see bolded.) so why are you torn on r2r/NPOM, isn't NPOM already looking scum to you just from votato/NPOM? Your process makes it look like Nauci is scummy for trying to have it both ways, but you look just as uncertain here

Actually he's saying that there cannot be 2 scum within votato/NPOM, but doesn't eliminate the possibility that there are 2 town there, so there's not a hole in his logic (just his premises).

In 696 I do bring up the fact that it’s possible r2r/NPOM are both town. You can go further with that and reasonably imply that since I’ve claimed I believe votato to be town and it’s possible that r2r/NPOM is TvT, I have considered that votato/NPOM are both town.

I think votato is town.

You decided votato is town back in 298/337 and have predicated many of your reads and the logic behind them on this. Is there further reason since 337 that you continue to TR votato?

So, idk how many times I’ve read and reread the Atarashi section over and over, which then becomes puppy vs votato and I think puppy’s initial push about votato’s one sample size meta game about Atarashi’s wall vs no wall and jumpy-ness developed into an overly aggressive scum read/push for what the premise was, which imo, was a tunnel due to a small sample size meta. This just felt TvT to me. And in 337 I do mention how votato’s response to Puppy’s jab I feel is more town than NPOM’s response of not responding. In fact, NPOM’s next post after that was his scum list. Atarashi mentions his case about NPOM to Blair who is TR’ing both Atarashi and NPOM. I think votato has been pretty consistent in his reads and development.

[Nauci]

I rarely if ever properly address cases on me. I respond to direct inquiries and I poke at holes in logic but I am confident that when I am town I obvtown sooner or later

Also my scum game is pitiful and lurky and awkward and I wish I could assert otherwise

[Blair]

I would hope actual town could see that I and most likely Nauci are town.

actual town could see that I

actual town could see

that I

[Nauci]

so do u think mav suspects u for bad reasons or misguided ones? there's a difference

I'm not sure whether there are bad reasons, I just know that the thing about quoting the modpost is obviously wrong but not sure if sincerely or not. This is one of the slots I planned to re-read and evaluate once it had more content close to the end of the day.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Quick decides that someone is scummy by some random method and then makes up reasons in his head that noone else understands.

[mavsfan41]

so do u think mav suspects u for bad reasons or misguided ones? there's a difference

I'm not sure whether there are bad reasons, I just know that the thing about quoting the modpost is obviously wrong but not sure if sincerely or not. This is one of the slots I planned to re-read and evaluate once it had more content close to the end of the day.

Not gonna lie, in 222, I didn’t know what you meant with “OP” so I now understand that bit and how you addressed it at the time.

As far as me bringing that up, that was in response to you asking if there was day talk. Which I thought was weird cause you had posted the actual mod post covering this. That made your question about day talk so much more LAMIST.

Now that was compounded because of VP Baltar’s 382 which is awkwardly obvious LAMIST. That was weird at the time but I was like whateves, I’ll let this one go (but did influence my case against him later) and your question to the mod was the second instance of someone acting blatantly LAMIST, so I decided to push that one. Maybe not so much as it coming from you but more so it being the second LAMIST post in a short time frame.

[Nauci]

I think I'm town reading Quick. He's always a very active poster but I swear when he's scum he frequently posts about how he's definitely town in a way that feels self conscious. The way he keeps posting about being null-read and liking, plus even saying that if he were scum he would find scum, that makes me think he's actually town? Also I'm skimming one of his scum games and he is shockingly coherent in it lol

Pedit: Mavs that's a totally reasonable confusion, ty for clearing that up. I spend too much time on Reddit and assume everyone knows what Original Post means

[CantHateAPuppy]

If you look at Nauci's reads list, that is a complete tell of the Buddy attempt given Nauci knows I like to be different/unpredictable/unique, which I do like to be those things. Plush she admits she had meta dived me so she has every reason to budy me with a TMI read on me.

is budding inherently scum? kind of agreeing with the point that u are just going on gut and justifying urself later:

yeah quicks style is shit, but in this instance there is a larger case. none of you are doing anything to address the case. you are trying to form counterwagons or engage in ad hominem.

except, OK, what is the "larger case" here? i am not really sure what u mean here, except if i squint it looks like u're complaining about an town being unproductive while u are being... unproductive

so do u think mav suspects u for bad reasons or misguided ones? there's a difference

I'm not sure whether there are bad reasons

, I just know that the thing about quoting the modpost is obviously wrong but not sure if sincerely or not. This is one of the slots I planned to re-read and evaluate once it had more content close to the end of the day.

can u elaborate on this? hope i'm not just asking u the same questions over and over again, but i'm trying to develop a read on u here and not finding anything to sink my teeth into. are u saying there are no bad reasons, or u're just not sure what to make of mav yet?

[Blair]

Puppy! Be a good boy and fetch Blair your read on Gamma!

[CantHateAPuppy]

Puppy! Be a good boy and fetch Blair your read on Gamma!

hard null. i keep waiting for him to appear with more content and he hasn't. if i could strap one poster into the clockwork orange brainwash chair and force them to watch the whole thread, it'd be him

[Nauci]

engage in ad hominem

Wait hold up I did what now

[VP Baltar]

Oh hey everyone, did someone say brainwashing? I have 7 pages to read. TIME FOR A SCRUBBING