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[PenguinPower]

*urge to tunnel rises*

[Clover Ebi]

Didn't have a choice. I'm Compulsive

[PenguinPower]

Why did you leave that out?

[PenguinPower]

Like- you said, “ I made everyone strongman” and not “I had to make everyone strongman”

[HoldenGolden]

2nd off, I don't really see the scum!Mastina read.

Rereading Day 1, despite her lack of presence in the thread, she backed herself into a really tight corner regarding Votato. While its not out of the question scum could of start bussing Votato day 1 sensing the pressure brought by slots like me, Mastina's stance highly limited any chance for Votato to survive both in her ability to support counter wagons and also fundamentally undermining the fake claim. Furthermore, when comparing the claim progression compared to other's who relied heavily on the claim to get a read off (for example, birds early to mid day 1 read) it doesn't explain the thought process in detail enough to provide wiggle room out of the read. Later posts such as citing Votato as the scum on PP doubt train also doubled down on this.

Since April has confirmed the presence of a RB (most likely scum), that also reassures me of town!mastina. According to April's plan and Gambit, Mastina was to be shot and cleaned by it. Considering this, I don't think scum would be willing to try and lose 2 members before EoD day 2 and would of rbed April out of safety. Now, this is assuming that scum doesn't have other ways to mitigate or heal KP, but it was a high risk situation given what we know so far about the suppose scum RB to not RB April

[HoldenGolden]

*Urge to lynch Holden rises.*

Oh if you know why I shot bingle I am sure this would become serious lol

I'm gonna claim part of my role.

I made everyone strongman night 1.
I also am the one who gave the set up information n2.

I doubt Votato and Holden target the same player as scum together.

Well that would explain some things. I need to look at something real quick

[HoldenGolden]

Wait but he was 2 shot bp right? That still doesn't add up.

Alright, fine:

They say Dunnstral is town.

~Cosmic

What kind of message was it? The same kind of the mod confirmed one or was it something else?

I'm not gonna take that as mod confirmation, but it probably means we shouldn't lynch Dunnstral today regardless.

Ok I know this is hypocritical given what I just revealed about Bingle, but are you telling me you also faked being clueless about everything as a way to bait out KP's? If so, how does that help your read's given what they actually do?

[HoldenGolden]

Oh @Chemist

I want some from of a Readlist. Your posts for this day phase has been 4 with only two directed to the vote. The only explanation you have given for it is doubting the claim. So go further, why do you think April's claim is fake as well as giving me the read list.

[HoldenGolden]

I don't really see a good path forwards here tbh
Most of the game is directly opposed to my reads and I don't have any confidence in the people who will probably end up leading it

And?

If they are scum like you imply in the end of the last sentence, then they are going to end up going after you as well. You keep saying you may/are going to write a write up for your farside scumread, or any significant write up on anybody. I don't feel you are genuinely trying to get your lynches and rather are complaining about it to people like PP to hide through this day phase.

Sell the farside/dunn case to me, or if you believe in chemist now, sell it.

[HoldenGolden]

"You keep saying you may/are going to write a write up for your farside scumread. So write one up, or any significant write up on anybody you want lynched."

[Clover Ebi]

Wait but he was 2 shot bp right? That still doesn't add up.

Alright, fine:

They say Dunnstral is town.

~Cosmic

What kind of message was it? The same kind of the mod confirmed one or was it something else?

I'm not gonna take that as mod confirmation, but it probably means we shouldn't lynch Dunnstral today regardless.

Ok I know this is hypocritical given what I just revealed about Bingle, but are you telling me you also faked being clueless about everything as a way to bait out KP's? If so, how does that help your read's given what they actually do?

I had nothing to do with the 2nd part. The first part wasn't me trying to bait out kps because to my knowledge scum shot Bin. I had no idea about you

[Clover Ebi]

Like- you said, “ I made everyone strongman” and not “I had to make everyone strongman”

Well, I had options but out of my options, I picked that one first. But yes it is compulsive that at one point I had to make everyone strongman.

[Clover Ebi]

I figured n1 was best given April and Votato were trying to confirm something and I didn't want either of them to claim blocked.

[Chemist1422]

LOL who is misty?

hi

[Chemist1422]

Oh @Chemist

I want some from of a Readlist. Your posts for this day phase has been 4 with only two directed to the vote. The only explanation you have given for it is doubting the claim. So go further, why do you think April's claim is fake as well as giving me the read list.

okay hold on

it’s like midnight for me and I’ve barely processed any of the thread but here

{Chemist}
{PP, mastina, Dunnstral}
{Conspire, farside22, Holden}
{jjh, Birds, Clover}
{April}

this feels...pretty alright?
ask me if you want any specifics I’ll probably respond in the morning

[April Ludgate]

If Mastina is town, I could see a chemist/Clover.

Or chemist/Birds

[April Ludgate]

The only thing that gives me some pause with Chemist is that I’ve pretty much confirmed my role yet he still is pushing it.

[April Ludgate]

Which could be a pride thing in a Chemist/Mastina pairing.

If there’s another, they’re probably under the radar.

[April Ludgate]

Also, Farside is nearly conf town for me.

[April Ludgate]

Also, Chemist puts Mastina high on town read, and then puts Jjh low.

That’s a political readslist.

[mastina]

@Jjh - Votato goes rogue and doesn’t listen to partner Mastina in regards to playstyle or claiming, how would ScumMastina act about that?

Damage control in "okay, votato, so you messed up by doing that, but we can maybe salvage the situation if you do x y z", and trying to coach votato into the optimal spot given his fuckup in ignoring me.

Not bussing the slot outright and writing it off as a loss.

I never write scum slots off as being lost unless they have a guilty result on them...and even then, sometimes not then, if I think the guilty can be outplayed/fought/etc.

In fact jjh actually has a good example of this.
Because the scenario you described?

It actually did happen in a scumgame of mine!
I instructed NicoRobin in what to claim--she did not follow my instructions.

jjh can attest that I did the opposite of bussing her that game.

[mastina]

I’m obnoxious and beautiful, but I’m not scum. And Mastina’s lack of any other reads besides strong town on JJH and Scum pushing me is a scum positioning tool.

I mean I admit other than you I am lacking in the department of scumreads but I am quite content with the number of townreads I have given the number of players in the game.

jjh, Dunnstral, farside, Conspire, and PenguinPower are definitely town, with Clover and Holden as possible town.

Given those townreads on 5(+me)+2/11 players, leaving only three players in the poe pool? Don't really need scumreads, do I? The poe pool is itself scumreads enough.

(I believe the three remaining are {April, Chemist, Bird}, right?)

[Clover Ebi]

The more I see Mastina post the more I wanna vote in Bird/Chem but if I'm wrong it'll bite me in the bum. I should probably read their ISOs and come to a better answer.

UNVOTE:

[Dunnstral]

Oh @Chemist

I want some from of a Readlist. Your posts for this day phase has been 4 with only two directed to the vote. The only explanation you have given for it is doubting the claim. So go further, why do you think April's claim is fake as well as giving me the read list.

okay hold on

it’s like midnight for me and I’ve barely processed any of the thread but here

{Chemist}
{PP, mastina, Dunnstral}
{Conspire, farside22, Holden}
{jjh, Birds, Clover}
{April}

this feels...pretty alright?
ask me if you want any specifics I’ll probably respond in the morning

I’m obnoxious and beautiful, but I’m not scum. And Mastina’s lack of any other reads besides strong town on JJH and Scum pushing me is a scum positioning tool.

I mean I admit other than you I am lacking in the department of scumreads but I am quite content with the number of townreads I have given the number of players in the game.

jjh, Dunnstral, farside, Conspire, and PenguinPower are definitely town, with Clover and Holden as possible town.

Given those townreads on 5(+me)+2/11 players, leaving only three players in the poe pool? Don't really need scumreads, do I? The poe pool is itself scumreads enough.

(I believe the three remaining are {April, Chemist, Bird}, right?)

I have PP, farside22, Holden, April as town right now

Clover Ebi is probably town as well

Mastina and Chemist and Bird IDK

Conspire kind of scummy

Jjh scummy

[Clover Ebi]

Hey look me and Dunnstral have the same townreads! Can you try and get me your read on Chemist and Bird? I'm pretty sure they have scum in them.