Micro 940: A Normal Blitz II - Game Over

Madoka · Post Post #600 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 5:38 am

Are you partners with Shiki then? Because the way you have interacted with her reminds me of the way you interacted with bugspray.

I am also a VT.

humaneatingmonkey · Post Post #601 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 5:39 am

No I'm not partners with shiki. Tell me about this interaction with bugspray.

Umlaut · Post Post #602 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 5:39 am

This claim looks genuine and there is just no reason for HG to all-in with Datisi like this when I think if scum they could likely win here just by lynching me today and lying low tomorrow. So sure, you're masons.

UNVOTE: Datisi

On the run right now and need to think more, but I'm leaning toward Hiraki by PoE.

Madoka · Post Post #603 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 5:40 am

No, why would that be helpful.

Madoka · Post Post #604 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 5:41 am

We have a mislynch, correct? I say we just lynch Hiraki and if he flips green it is HEM + Shiki.

Datisi · Post Post #605 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 5:41 am

if you think they're scumbuddies it would be helpful no?

humaneatingmonkey · Post Post #606 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 5:43 am

Well, you mentioned it and now you're trying to get me lynched by pushing it.

Umlaut > Hiraki, then you can lynch me.

Madoka · Post Post #607 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 5:43 am

I am speaking from his perspective. Why on earth would he desire to waste time on something he knows not to be true.

HoldenGolden · Post Post #608 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 5:43 am

In post 594, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
In post 590, HoldenGolden wrote:Hoctac's idea was that it would confirm mafia believed the neighbor claim and so the other neighbor was town, but I did point out at some point in the day that if he were scum he could just kill me and use that same argument to "clear" himself if people bought it, so I don"t necessarily expect to be treated as clear. But I know this means Mafia at least thought the claims were likely to be true.
This just doesn't make sense to accept as town!Umlaut but makes so much sense as scum!Umlaut.

There is a way I can understand town!Umlaut, but I need time to work it through to the point of articulation of it

humaneatingmonkey · Post Post #609 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 5:44 am

So I can know if you're full of shit

Datisi · Post Post #610 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 5:44 am

maybe to get you untunnled for once? dunno if that ever happened though.

Madoka · Post Post #611 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 5:44 am

Uh huh.

HoldenGolden · Post Post #612 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 5:46 am

In post 611, Madoka wrote:Uh huh.

Show me then.

My perspective has no qualms with the comparison of bugs/HEM vs what you say you are seeing here between shiki/Hem if there is a good rational behind it

Datisi · Post Post #613 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 5:46 am

madoka, i'm still not conviced your pushes yesterday were in good faith. if you want support on shiki/hem, you're gonna have to sell it.

humaneatingmonkey · Post Post #614 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 5:48 am

In post 608, HoldenGolden wrote:There is a way I can understand town!Umlaut, but I need time to work it through to the point of articulation of it

I need this

Madoka · Post Post #615 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 5:48 am

No, I am not going to spend time trying to explain vibe. The way he talks about Shiki reminds me of the way he talked about bugspray. Read it yourself or lynch me.

@datisi, I have no idea if it is Shiki + HEM until I see Hiraki's flip. This conversation is fruitless because it is speculation based on no evidence other than PoE.

Madoka · Post Post #616 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 5:49 am

PoE which we do not yet have.

Datisi · Post Post #617 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 5:50 am

your poe yesterday was [datisi, george, hiraki]. one flipped green, the other is a mason. who's hiraki's partner then?

humaneatingmonkey · Post Post #618 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 5:50 am

shiki, is Madoka scum?

Madoka · Post Post #619 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 5:50 am

I do not know.

humaneatingmonkey · Post Post #620 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 5:50 am

Maybe it's Umlaut + Madoka

humaneatingmonkey · Post Post #621 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 5:51 am

It's either Umlaut + Hiraki or Umlaut + Madoka

Madoka · Post Post #622 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 5:52 am

I am not changing my vote and I do not think there is anything more to discuss unless there is another PR claim, so I am leaving now.

HoldenGolden · Post Post #623 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 6:00 am

In post 615, Madoka wrote:No, I am not going to spend time trying to explain vibe. The way he talks about Shiki reminds me of the way he talked about bugspray. Read it yourself or lynch me.

@datisi, I have no idea if it is Shiki + HEM until I see Hiraki's flip. This conversation is fruitless because it is speculation based on no evidence other than PoE.

I just read HEMs ISO from Blitz I. I dont see what you saw. HEM made a few callouts to Bugs there, but not nearly as much nor in the same vain as he has done with Shiki here.

Why are you giving us this ultimatum to either accept it or lynch you when both Hiraki and Ulmants wagons have support? You aren't in dying danger of getting lynched, and there is plenty of time left to change peoples views on shiki/HEM if you dont want those two wagons.

We are also not pushing this game into day 3 rush style by lynching X and then auto assuming scum pool is in [Y,Z]. This goes for everybody.

humaneatingmonkey · Post Post #624 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 6:11 am

I just don't see Umlaut not being scum here. His town perspective doesn't make sense to me.