lange nonal 227 OHHH!!!! OHHH!!!!! ITS OVER OHHHHHH!!!! OHHH

[Hoctac]

jus here fore teh hammre

[Hoctac]

RQS Questions
1. Are you scum?
2. What are some of your recent games?
3. What is your favorite role?

1. Nope
2. Newbie 1997
3. Cop

1. in real life? yes. in this game? sadly no
2. I just came back from a year long hiatus from any mafia but I have one game offsite completed here since my break
3. Any spicy/flavoured roles.

wait, hang on

you even said "sadly no" here. why?

[Hoctac]

RQS Questions
1. Are you scum?
2. What are some of your recent games?
3. What is your favorite role?

1. Nope
2. Newbie 1997
3. Cop

1. in real life? yes. in this game? sadly no
2. I just came back from a year long hiatus from any mafia but I have one game offsite completed here since my break
3. Any spicy/flavoured roles.

Procrastinating from my schoolwork AMA

are you scum?

Regrettably not : (

Procrastinating from my schoolwork AMA

are you scum?

Regrettably not : (

do you like the scum? why?

I dont like the scum because umm they are very mean and quite likely have intent to eventually kill me, as a member of the town.

nooo meaning i do you like playing scum?

OH LMAO no I hate it. it stresses me out and I feel trapped :/

we should lynch manatee here

once? ok maybe i can buy his explanation. but twice? i dunno m8

[Hoctac]

quicklynch plan still intact, move over to manatee though

Alber is scum protecting his buddy easy gaem

[Nahdia]

catchin up. bless yall for not spamming up a storm.

@farside to respond as to my scumread: initially just gut? but the post i called out i can put into more specifics. word starts getting run up. midwaybear puts out a tenative defense on him (in retrospect i actually don't hate mid's post as much as i did on first reading. i honestly dont know what i was seeing there lol). word immediately turns around and declares a townread on the guy that defends him. feels like a person more concerned with how people are reading him rather than actually scumhunting.

oh my god i disagree with everyone in this game about how theyre reading this! the manatee wagon is bad! contradictions like that arent a scum tell, why would that be scummy? madonna wagon is also bad, 191 is fine and their vote is literally an RVS vote to run someone up. that's how RVS works.

an actual scummy player gets run up and then two bonkers counterwagons appear. wild.

popopopopopo is also a good vote btw. would accept that as alternative to word.

[Nahdia]

Only hit page 6 as of now, lamest thing I have seen thus far is the question @mod about post restriction roles being a thing. If they exist in a normal game, are they alignment indicative? Doubtful, unless you want to go way off base and assume out of several post restriction roles, some are town, some are scum, and that is now your voting pool. Like, that is wild.

was gonna say norway leans town but then they started going off word to go for farside for duuuuuummmbb reasons. i want to believe.

hoctac how confident do u feel on manatee?

[farside22]

Only hit page 6 as of now, lamest thing I have seen thus far is the question @mod about post restriction roles being a thing. If they exist in a normal game, are they alignment indicative? Doubtful, unless you want to go way off base and assume out of several post restriction roles, some are town, some are scum, and that is now your voting pool. Like, that is wild.

was gonna say norway leans town but then they started going off word to go for farside for duuuuuummmbb reasons. i want to believe.

hoctac how confident do u feel on manatee?

I like norways push. I found bob way more scummier for his push. Those questions he asked were awful.

[popopopopopopo]

madonna wagon is also bad, 191 is fine and their vote is literally an RVS vote to run someone up. that's how RVS works.

No vote count update since the initial? I will not be RVS voting, it seems, since by the time I catch up reading, I am going to have opinions.

Samsies, po7x.

[Hoctac]

oh my god i disagree with everyone in this game about how theyre reading this! the manatee wagon is bad! contradictions like that arent a scum tell, why would that be scummy?

hmm i don't know

i do think it's scum-indicative to pretend like you wish you'd rolled scum as scum though, when in reality you don't like it at all

[popopopopopopo]

Heya, it has been ages since I have played, have not looked at the the votes yet so give me a moment before making a crap RVS vote that is not an accidental hammer. Good work getting to page 8.

No vote count update since the initial? I will not be RVS voting, it seems, since by the time I catch up reading, I am going to have opinions.

Samsies, po7x.

Only hit page 6 as of now, lamest thing I have seen thus far is the question @mod about post restriction roles being a thing. If they exist in a normal game, are they alignment indicative? Doubtful, unless you want to go way off base and assume out of several post restriction roles, some are town, some are scum, and that is now your voting pool. Like, that is wild.

madonna's entrance to the game feels extremely belabored. after all the rigmarole, i was expecting at least a scumread. instead we get this.

It turns out, eight pages of voting has not already put anyone in dire straits. We can fix that.

VOTE: word321

states word's question to the mod was "lame". i agree it was lame, not really scummy tho. if the question is so bad, why link a wiki page to answer it?

word321: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Normal_Game

Under Setup, the red bit about non-normal mechanics.

Less ManateeDude, more word321. I felt we were getting somewhere.

then he says this, seems quite sure of his vote on word, despite not really giving any reason. this is the damning post for me. getting on an early day 1 speedwagon? no problem. defending that speedwagon against another speedwagon for no reason? no no

[Nahdia]

Only hit page 6 as of now, lamest thing I have seen thus far is the question @mod about post restriction roles being a thing. If they exist in a normal game, are they alignment indicative? Doubtful, unless you want to go way off base and assume out of several post restriction roles, some are town, some are scum, and that is now your voting pool. Like, that is wild.

was gonna say norway leans town but then they started going off word to go for farside for duuuuuummmbb reasons. i want to believe.

hoctac how confident do u feel on manatee?

I like norways push. I found bob way more scummier for his push. Those questions he asked were awful.

bad questions yes, scummy questions... kinda sorta not really? i guess i dont like the premise but vibe with the execution. idk

madonna wagon is also bad, 191 is fine and their vote is literally an RVS vote to run someone up. that's how RVS works.

No vote count update since the initial? I will not be RVS voting, it seems, since by the time I catch up reading, I am going to have opinions.

Samsies, po7x.

oh cool i read that backwards.

hey madonna why'd u vote word?

oh my god i disagree with everyone in this game about how theyre reading this! the manatee wagon is bad! contradictions like that arent a scum tell, why would that be scummy?

hmm i don't know

i do think it's scum-indicative to pretend like you wish you'd rolled scum as scum though, when in reality you don't like it at all

oh. huh. that's actually not a bad angle. thought u were just pushing for the surface-level contradiction.

[Madonna]

Four votes for me, all in one go? Oof. I am sure the cases against me are much better than the one's for word321.

I thought madonna's vote was pretty bad. Wanna lynch her?

ok lol, i just checked the ISO and im actually fine with this

vote:madonna

VOTE: Madonna

VOTE: madonna

VOTE: Madonna
oh yeah

[Madonna]

I feel like you guys are going to spend a lot of time fighting about a few posts by me that indicate nothing. The quick answer to everything is: we should focus on somebody, yes, and yes, that can be if you would like, and yes, I think that being the third? wagon suggests that none of you seem to want to anchor your votes much for long.

Why not word321? Why not ManateeDude? I like keeping votes still because you get to draw information from the people not on board with the primary wagon. Is word321/ManateeDude/Madonna so-and-so's scummate? You could find out if you stopped a moment and let that pressure build, even let it get to L-1. Then people drop off, find different scumspects, and things evaporate, and that has even happened here without L-1 wagons, but with less results.

[popopopopopopo]

I feel like you guys are going to spend a lot of time fighting about a few posts by me that indicate nothing. The quick answer to everything is: we should focus on somebody, yes, and yes, that can be if you would like, and yes, I think that being the third? wagon suggests that none of you seem to want to anchor your votes much for long.

Why not word321? Why not ManateeDude? I like keeping votes still because you get to draw information from the people not on board with the primary wagon. Is word321/ManateeDude/Madonna so-and-so's scummate? You could find out if you stopped a moment and let that pressure build, even let it get to L-1. Then people drop off, find different scumspects, and things evaporate, and that has even happened here without L-1 wagons, but with less results.

do you have any reads

[ManateeDude]

RQS Questions
1. Are you scum?
2. What are some of your recent games?
3. What is your favorite role?

1. Nope
2. Newbie 1997
3. Cop

1. in real life? yes. in this game? sadly no
2. I just came back from a year long hiatus from any mafia but I have one game offsite completed here since my break
3. Any spicy/flavoured roles.

wait, hang on

you even said "sadly no" here. why?

Same explanation :/ I meant it in a "haha not this time" way

[ManateeDude]

I understand why you read it the way you did but you're definitely overrthinking my intention here. The earlygame questions were met with joking responses and when you asked a serious question I responded accordingly

[Madonna]

do you have any reads

Leaning town on ManateeDude and NorwegianBoyEE, enjoying their style, leaning scum on word321 and Albert B. Rampage, one with the sudden OMGUS turnabout and the other one was in both jumps on word321 and me. I was seriously digging your play prior to my entrance, popopopopopopo, but I guess what worked for you against word321 worked against me, and that is acceptably null.

[gobbledygook]

yeah sure
however, I am a bit cautious. I don't really see anything too out of the blue with word's current posts compared to his standard town meta

This is both "gratuitous" and was umprompted; theres no reason to do this as scum, and constitutes my first somewhat serious tl.

yikers a bad post in reference to a bad post. scumception.

idk bc that's a fucking

wild

post if they're both mafia but i sure do hate them both!

game is strange. normally i feel like im townreading too many people and have to adjust, now i feel like im scumreading too many people. who would like to be part of the townbloc? apply now.

VOTE: word321

Why is that word post bad?
UNVOTE:

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Madonna is town. I’m gonna be sad when she’s dead

[votato]

mmm, i think i like the manatee wagon better than the madonna wagon. VOTE: manatee

[Hoctac]

i will also be sad to see madonner die but only because they have a fantastic name

[stan1ey]

Manatees didn't do anything lol his explanation makes 100% sense, I read it that way the first time

[NorwegianboyEE]

Only hit page 6 as of now, lamest thing I have seen thus far is the question @mod about post restriction roles being a thing. If they exist in a normal game, are they alignment indicative? Doubtful, unless you want to go way off base and assume out of several post restriction roles, some are town, some are scum, and that is now your voting pool. Like, that is wild.

was gonna say norway leans town but then they started going off word to go for farside for duuuuuummmbb reasons. i want to believe.

hoctac how confident do u feel on manatee?

Why is it dumb reasoning? Are you good at reading Farside and do they seem like town to you?

Give me a vote count and i’ll see what i can do. I probably won’t vote Madonna because it’s built up too quickly for me and i don’t agree with the reasoning. As it’s mostly based on ISO when we’re still D1. I can compromise on Word321, as for any other players i don’t know yet. They haven’t stuck out to me.

[stan1ey]

we should lynch manatee here

once? ok maybe i can buy his explanation. but twice? i dunno m8

ur tunneling hard, think about it. if he has done this more than once then its not a slip up and his explanation makes more sense because its how he talks

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m going to go out on a limb here and say it. I didn’t think Words’s wall was all that townie.
A lot of people are saying Word’s post is a town post, but nobody says why. I’m curious if they legitimately like what’s been said or it’s a case of: "Lots of text= town right?".

[NorwegianboyEE]

We had a solid bandwagon on word, and a competing miniwagon with manatee. I think that's sufficient information for day 2, all considered.

I'm just tired of 80 page day 1s where every town role is outted and scum can pick the PRs apart...….every damn time.

Your mindset sucks.