Mini Normal 2135 (Endgame)

[CantHateAPuppy]

why is there an ascetic encryptor for the role cop to get a "guilty" on if the role cop is 1 shot

why? makes no sense for that role to be in the game if the rolecop is never going to inspect it because the rolecop will always check one of the millers

[CantHateAPuppy]

Puppy, there are two scum left.

One is between you and Una. One is between Tanner, George and Knightmare.

Stop posting drivel.

why is there an ascetic encryptor for the role cop to get a "guilty" on if the role cop is 1 shot

why? makes no sense for that role to be in the game if the rolecop is never going to inspect it because the rolecop will always check one of the millers

answer me this question

[PranaDevil]

Why were there two millers?

Its wifom right now.

[UnaBombaH]

both scum bussing just doesn't make sense, if that were the case popo didn't need to bother with his cc at all

This is speaking with the knowledge of what actually ended up happening.
Consider it from a scum-perspective, and yet again, potentially without day-chat to help with the communication.
Both remaining scum really might've ended up bussing for multiple reasons.
Considering the fact that your slot is the one that has had replacements galore, and there's a can of worms about potential reasons.
People not agreeing on actions / each others' gambits / bussing vs derailing wagons etc etc.

Add it all to the fact that people simply don't play an optimized version of the game very often, if ever.
I guess we'll find out the reasonings for each individual nightkill at the endgame, but even those choices don't seem all very logical to me.
But that's all just guessing until the game's over.

[UnaBombaH]

no, no no no no no

i am overthinking this, there are two scum and popo did not bus his scummate with a tracker guilty

Well, in a way, popopos claim makes the MOST sense in a world where Persivul is scum too.
It would've just required the town to have any other PRs for the setup to even seemingly make any sense, but since we don't have any, there's no reason to discuss that alternate reality anymore.

[UnaBombaH]

how can persi believe this if he is going to role cop the second miller that night?

I've gone down that route already.
My favorite bet for scum yesterday was "both I guess", which made it so difficult for me to decide.
I already ISO'd both of the slots extensively yesterday, and had those same strokes of paranoia.

But you are a day late and a dollar short already.
Persivul isn't going to be lynched in this game, ever, based on setup spec. alone.
If Persivul is scum and someone tells me after the game that I'm stupid for thinking it'd be unfair for town to have two Millers, a red herring -quasi-Miller role and an IC and nothing else....well....
Guess I'm stupid then.
But I know this would likely be my last Normal game on site as well.
My latest Normal Game already was a shitshow in terms of modding, roles and rules.
I play this queue above anything else because I'd like to think these are supposed to be closed setups with room for fakeclaiming, but a definite guideline for balance and roles as well.

[GeorgeBailey]

why is there an ascetic encryptor for the role cop to get a "guilty" on if the role cop is 1 shot

why? makes no sense for that role to be in the game if the rolecop is never going to inspect it because the rolecop will always check one of the millers

Probably for the scum role cop?

[PranaDevil]

Reads on who is scum in each pod
Pod A - Tanner/George/Knightmare
Pod B - Puppy/Una

Puppy:
Main read: Una/Knight
Second read: Una/George

Una:
Main read: Puppy/George

Tanner:
Main read: Puppy/Knightmare

Persi, George and Knightmare still to go.

[Persivul]

u said urself that u were partly reading prana as scum because he rolled scum a lot and u were worried about that.

No, I didn't. That's a misrep.

[Persivul]

It's been all game Puppy. So it's very easy for scum to coast on through. Persivul has his blinkers on, hes right, nobody else matters, planning for a worst case scenario doesn't matter, and if he fucks up "oh well, just a game, lol".

He ruins the game for everyone else with that attitude. Why should I give a toss about any game I'm in with Persi when I know he won't put actual effort in, because "it's just a game".

People play this to win. Persi clearly isn't interested in winning or losing, thus plays anti-town.

Any game with a player like that in is a shit game. He doesn't care if anyone else wants to play the game properly, merely that he does what he wants.

Prana, I'm one vote. If I'm not putting any effort in, it should be pretty easy for you to convince people of your reads and get them to vote with you. Why aren't you able to do that?

Also, I'm one of three votes on you. Why aren't you personally insulting the other two, as you are with me?

[PranaDevil]

prana, if you want to hear it, sure - there's a chance in my mind that you flip green. An issue I have with you and can't resolve is that you just seem to roll scum all the time. An old white flag game is all I found that you were in for a significant amount of time. I mean, yeah, maybe you haven't played town enough to know not to be a tunneling, misrepping, AtE little shit. Nothing's sure to town.

No, it wasn't a misrep.

[PranaDevil]

And the difference is, other players are at least looking at others, are actually considering what happens when I flip town, and have done so the rest of the game.

You have admitted you don't take it seriously, and can't be fucked to put any effort in beyond "thats my top read, I don't care beyond that".

That ALONE should be enough for D1 policy lynched going forwards. Because if you are town, you are a danger to it (like now), and if you're scum, then it's a good hit.

[Persivul]

Yes, it's a misrep. Your tunneling, misrepping, and AtE are all scummy. I went to read town games of yours to see if you play that way as town. You don't have enough town games for me to get a town baseline on you.

[Persivul]

And the difference is, other players are at least looking at others, are actually considering what happens when I flip town, and have done so the rest of the game.

So you think the first two votes on you are acceptable?

[Persivul]

You actually didn't. It's a secret alts game, you were supposed to PM the mod.

Well, back to mini normals!

Not sure what the secret alt thing is about - seems like most people on this site are playing secret alts most of the time anyway...

[PranaDevil]

I'm not even saying yours is "unacceptable" for fucks sake.

I'm asking you to look tomorrow, because you die tonight. So to give advice for where you believe town should look ON ME FLIPPING GREEN.

Una/Puppy like you've said multiple times ONLY works if I'm scum.

So when I flip green, town need as much information as possible.

So who is most scummy, to you, out of Knightmare, George and Tanner?

Answer me (and town) that one question.

[Tanner]

You actually didn't. It's a secret alts game, you were supposed to PM the mod.

Well, back to mini normals!

Not sure what the secret alt thing is about - seems like most people on this site are playing secret alts most of the time anyway...

[Persivul]

That ALONE should be enough for D1 policy lynched going forwards.

Yabut you're blacklisting me, so you won't be there to tell them!

[Persivul]

I'm not even saying yours is "unacceptable" for fucks sake.

Seems that way. You say I'm not doing anything positive. Just tunneling.

I'm asking you to look tomorrow, because you die tonight. So to give advice for where you believe town should look ON ME FLIPPING GREEN.

You have no respect for my game, to the extent you think I should be policy lynhjced D1 in every game I play...yet you want me to give town advice?

Una/Puppy like you've said multiple times ONLY works if I'm scum.

And I think you're scum.

So when I flip green, town need as much information as possible.

So who is most scummy, to you, out of Knightmare, George and Tanner?

Answer me (and town)

that one question.

Bolded is where you or puppy would say this is a scum slip, if I said that.

[Persivul]

You actually didn't. It's a secret alts game, you were supposed to PM the mod.

Well, back to mini normals!

Not sure what the secret alt thing is about - seems like most people on this site are playing secret alts most of the time anyway...

Yeah you're a good player, so Iv'e been wondering who your main/other alts are in order to play more with you, but I don't pry.

[PranaDevil]

Knightmare, and George.

Pod A: Tanner, George and Knightmare
Pod B: Una, Puppy

Pick your scummiest in each pod please.

[Persivul]

Tanner, consider:

popo laid the groundwork for the fake result on me early on D3. This indicates that scum chose me N2.

They could have chosen ANYONE for that move.

The easiest choice would have been the riabi (now puppy) slot. That would likely have gone through.

Choosing me had a negative - if successful, my flip would confirm mavs. Not that big a deal, but still negative relative to every other choice.

Yet, they chose me. Why?

I was heavily pushing prana D2.

[UnaBombaH]

^^Also the added benefit of getting BOTH you and mavs out in one move.

[Knightmare491]

How many days do we have? We're going to lynch between PD, Una and Puppy then we can try to eliminate pairs and lynch accordingly.

See above. George and tanner don't like prana/puppy, so IMO the lynch order is prana-una-puppy.

cool

[Persivul]

How many days do we have? We're going to lynch between PD, Una and Puppy then we can try to eliminate pairs and lynch accordingly.

See above. George and tanner don't like prana/puppy, so IMO the lynch order is prana-una-puppy.

cool

Personally I've gone back to prana-puppy-una, but the main thing is prana for today.