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Post Post #3425 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2020 12:09 pm

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In post 3423, Titus wrote:
In post 3421, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 3416, Titus wrote:ABR, what would it take for you to finally listen to us on NK15 if you're town?
If you write a decent case that isn't "my VCA"
Define what would make a "decent case". I am not going to put in the work to case someone if you're just going to plug your ears and claim to be a better player.
If you use quotes as evidence and explanations about motivations
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Post Post #3426 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2020 12:10 pm

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In post 3420, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Raven, does PB deserve all the credit for knightmares lynch?
In post 1758, Pink Ball wrote:Well I didn't want to say it back on D1 because I wasn't willing to make a 1v1 against mastina but...
In post 622, mastina wrote:
In post 361, Farkset wrote:@Pine, i think you are the authority here when talking about mastina, is that AI for her?
Actually.
The authority for reading me this game would probably be Pink Ball.
mastina said this because she knows I know what scum!mastina does different from town!mastina, and I was giving her time to start doing what town!mastina does, but she never did and she left the game before she could do it, so yes, it's very likely we're dealing with a scum!mastina slot. I haven't read anything coming from Knight, but I'm willing to get rid of that slot rather than Raya.
Before I said this, Raya was the main wagon of that day, and Raven immediately voted after I said that, making Knight the next viable wagon, tying both wagons.
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Post Post #3427 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2020 12:11 pm

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In post 3424, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 3419, Albert B. Rampage wrote:That's convincing, but what does barding do?

Whats your upgraded abilities?
Barding is giving my target the chance to perform twice during the next night: they can use their ability and train at the same time, for example. The upgrade gives me the chance to perform twice when I bard someone too. Takes me 1XP to bard, so I've trained twice when barded Ame and Raya, I think that's what how my role was supposed to be played. And of course, try not to bard scum 'cause I give them the chance to perform a kill and train at the same time.
Which nights did you bard/train?
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Post Post #3428 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2020 12:11 pm

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and why did you do it?
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Post Post #3429 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2020 12:13 pm

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In post 3426, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 3420, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Raven, does PB deserve all the credit for knightmares lynch?
In post 1758, Pink Ball wrote:Well I didn't want to say it back on D1 because I wasn't willing to make a 1v1 against mastina but...
In post 622, mastina wrote:
In post 361, Farkset wrote:@Pine, i think you are the authority here when talking about mastina, is that AI for her?
Actually.
The authority for reading me this game would probably be Pink Ball.
mastina said this because she knows I know what scum!mastina does different from town!mastina, and I was giving her time to start doing what town!mastina does, but she never did and she left the game before she could do it, so yes, it's very likely we're dealing with a scum!mastina slot. I haven't read anything coming from Knight, but I'm willing to get rid of that slot rather than Raya.
Before I said this, Raya was the main wagon of that day, and Raven immediately voted after I said that, making Knight the next viable wagon, tying both wagons.
What were you waiting on mastina to do?
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Post Post #3430 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2020 12:14 pm

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In post 3427, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 3424, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 3419, Albert B. Rampage wrote:That's convincing, but what does barding do?

Whats your upgraded abilities?
Barding is giving my target the chance to perform twice during the next night: they can use their ability and train at the same time, for example. The upgrade gives me the chance to perform twice when I bard someone too. Takes me 1XP to bard, so I've trained twice when barded Ame and Raya, I think that's what how my role was supposed to be played. And of course, try not to bard scum 'cause I give them the chance to perform a kill and train at the same time.
Which nights did you bard/train?
Night 2 and 3, I upgraded during D2.
In post 3428, Albert B. Rampage wrote:and why did you do it?
Because Ame was conftown and I thought he would treestump twice during the next night. You can see my disappointment at the start of the next day when everyone was alive. And Raya because it was part of the plan, and that plan would make Raya conftown if he remained alive. Problem is that we lynched our protective role.
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Post Post #3431 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2020 12:16 pm

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In post 3430, Pink Ball wrote:Night 2 and 3, I upgraded during D2.
Can you list your actions per night?
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Post Post #3432 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2020 12:17 pm

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In post 3429, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 3426, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 3420, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Raven, does PB deserve all the credit for knightmares lynch?
In post 1758, Pink Ball wrote:Well I didn't want to say it back on D1 because I wasn't willing to make a 1v1 against mastina but...
In post 622, mastina wrote:
In post 361, Farkset wrote:@Pine, i think you are the authority here when talking about mastina, is that AI for her?
Actually.
The authority for reading me this game would probably be Pink Ball.
mastina said this because she knows I know what scum!mastina does different from town!mastina, and I was giving her time to start doing what town!mastina does, but she never did and she left the game before she could do it, so yes, it's very likely we're dealing with a scum!mastina slot. I haven't read anything coming from Knight, but I'm willing to get rid of that slot rather than Raya.
Before I said this, Raya was the main wagon of that day, and Raven immediately voted after I said that, making Knight the next viable wagon, tying both wagons.
What were you waiting on mastina to do?
Either scumhunting or overly reacting at someone scumreading her. Two easy and recognizable traits from town!mastina. But she never started scumhunting, she just was here, talking about anything else rather than her own reads. Never got the chance to react to her wagon 'cause she already repped out at that point, but the other missing town traits was good enough.
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Post Post #3433 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2020 12:17 pm

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i dont think ames ability is reactive. Maybe you are scum and wanted Ame to vig town twice? Its certainly possible. Did you start with 1 xp? Why didnt you use it n1?
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Post Post #3434 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2020 12:19 pm

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what kind of shit scum doesnt at least pretend to scumhunt? This sounds so contrived.
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Post Post #3435 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2020 12:19 pm

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In post 3431, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 3430, Pink Ball wrote:Night 2 and 3, I upgraded during D2.
Can you list your actions per night?
Night 1, trained. Started D2 with 3 XP (I started with 1, 1 from training and 1 from FoC's death). I upgraded immediately and barded Ame, leaving me with 0 XP (upgrade took 2, barding took 1), but since I upgraded I could train during the night too. So started D3 with 1 XP, barded Raya, 0 XP, trained, 1 XP. And here I am once again asking for your financial support.
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Post Post #3436 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2020 12:24 pm

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In post 3433, Albert B. Rampage wrote:i dont think ames ability is reactive. Maybe you are scum and wanted Ame to vig town twice? Its certainly possible. Did you start with 1 xp? Why didnt you use it n1?
Yeah of course it's possible. I haven't said I'm town for barding Ame from that perspective, I think it's NAI. Unless Ame's reads at that point of the game were so wrong that I felt confident enough to think he would vig wrongly twice. I don't remember how his reads looked at that point of the game. I know he vigged right once, 1 out of 1 at that point.

I didn't bard during N1 because I had no strong townreads and barding scum, as I said earlier, would've been really bad 'cause I could give them the chance to use their roles and shoot at the same time, or train and shoot.
In post 3434, Albert B. Rampage wrote:what kind of shit scum doesnt at least pretend to scumhunt? This sounds so contrived.
The kind of player who has a good enough reputation as scum that they don't need to effort too much at the begining of the game. Like Flavor Leaf. There's paranoia, sure, but paranoia tends to help scum rather than lynch them.
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Post Post #3437 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2020 12:25 pm

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mastina dayvigged me in the very first post of a game as scum because she knows I'm good at reading her. She got out of that situation because of paranoia.
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Post Post #3438 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2020 12:29 pm

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What was the plan yesterday with Reya can you explain to me again please?
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Post Post #3439 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2020 12:33 pm

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Raya would give XP to both Ame and TSE. Raven would voyeur any pf those two, since she get XP if she voyeurs someone who is targeted.
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Post Post #3440 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2020 1:36 pm

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how am I performing a kill with 0 XP?
also my upgrade allows me to become the leader of any quest
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Post Post #3441 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2020 1:36 pm

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this can be proven
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Post Post #3442 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2020 1:43 pm

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VOTE: yes
no reason not to vote for this i suppose
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Post Post #3443 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2020 1:46 pm

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Titus what happened to your slot on night 1?
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Post Post #3444 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2020 1:49 pm

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I’ll look at the Vote wagons Day 1 and Day 2 later to see if I can find anything.
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Post Post #3445 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2020 2:04 pm

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oh btw why did you guys lynch creature btw
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Post Post #3446 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2020 2:05 pm

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did ame just powerlynch our protective role
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Post Post #3447 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2020 2:05 pm

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oh my god she actually did
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Post Post #3448 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2020 2:07 pm

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is ame the person to use a vig to shoot their own scumbuddy to enable a lynch mechanic
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Post Post #3449 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2020 2:07 pm

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the idea is so absurd but deciding to powerlynch the protective is just so baaaaad
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