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[Quick]

Big burrito from chipotle with extra of the hottest salsa they have. I am full and that was good.

[midwaybear]

and da puppy
Quick is null town so far. Quick's style is sorta unreadable, and I don't think I can really read him based off of tone or contribution. I feel like he posts generally the same stuff as scum and town. Overall, his thoughts read pretty natural and I can follow what he is thinking(most of the time). Thus, null town read.
Puppy is townlean. Puppy's early game was pretty solid. I like the way puppy pushed other people, and I don't get what the big deal about 710 was. Progression seems fine as well. The thing that is off about puppy was puppy's catchup and how puppy basically ignored the whole thread. I believe puppy answered the question, so it's fine. puppy is a good boy
TR on Dunnstral. This was a gut TR, and I just like his overall quality of posts so far.

@votato if you think that is my scum meta, then what is my town meta? I feel like you would say something similar to your scum argument. Just stop.

[VP Baltar]

More or less where I am with flips and subtracting myself...

Hellbooks
VP, R2R
Puppy, votato, Dunn
mav

Where's midway on this list?

(And definitely burrito jealous)

[votato]

and da puppy
Quick is null town so far. Quick's style is sorta unreadable, and I don't think I can really read him based off of tone or contribution. I feel like he posts generally the same stuff as scum and town. Overall, his thoughts read pretty natural and I can follow what he is thinking(most of the time). Thus, null town read.
Puppy is townlean. Puppy's early game was pretty solid. I like the way puppy pushed other people, and I don't get what the big deal about 710 was. Progression seems fine as well. The thing that is off about puppy was puppy's catchup and how puppy basically ignored the whole thread. I believe puppy answered the question, so it's fine. puppy is a good boy
TR on Dunnstral. This was a gut TR, and I just like his overall quality of posts so far.

@votato if you think that is my scum meta, then what is my town meta? I feel like you would say something similar to your scum argument. Just stop.

your town meta is to hard tunnel and vocally not contribute. as town you are very loud as well as useless. and you still havent explained a single one of your scum reads.

[Quick]

More or less where I am with flips and subtracting myself...

Hellbooks
VP, R2R
Puppy, votato, Dunn
mav

Where's midway on this list?

(And definitely burrito jealous)

Based on the time I made that list, midway was unreadable according to what I use. It was intentional to keep them off the list.

[midwaybear]

your town meta is to hard tunnel and vocally not contribute. as town you are very loud as well as useless. and you still havent explained a single one of your scum reads.

ok so if my town meta is basically my scum meta, then do you really think I am scum?

[midwaybear]

Based on the time I made that list, midway was unreadable according to what I use. It was intentional to keep them off the list.

How do you determine your reads again? I am intrigued because I recall that you do something different than most players.

[Quick]

Based on the time I made that list, midway was unreadable according to what I use. It was intentional to keep them off the list.

How do you determine your reads again? I am intrigued because I recall that you do something different than most players.

PoE and accounting for # of posts.

[votato]

your town meta is to hard tunnel and vocally not contribute. as town you are very loud as well as useless. and you still havent explained a single one of your scum reads.

ok so if my town meta is basically my scum meta, then do you really think I am scum?

theyre very different. as scum you lurk and dont post much. as town you are really loud and spam the thread with bad posts. in this game you have been lurky, aka scummy

[Quick]

Based on the time I made that list, midway was unreadable according to what I use. It was intentional to keep them off the list.

How do you determine your reads again? I am intrigued because I recall that you do something different than most players.

PoE and accounting for # of posts.

Midway rn...

[midwaybear]

your town meta is to hard tunnel and vocally not contribute. as town you are very loud as well as useless. and you still havent explained a single one of your scum reads.

ok so if my town meta is basically my scum meta, then do you really think I am scum?

theyre very different. as scum you lurk and dont post much. as town you are really loud and spam the thread with bad posts. in this game you have been lurky, aka scummy

do you want me to spam?? I'm trying to do that less and start giving better posts

[Quick]

your town meta is to hard tunnel and vocally not contribute. as town you are very loud as well as useless. and you still havent explained a single one of your scum reads.

ok so if my town meta is basically my scum meta, then do you really think I am scum?

theyre very different. as scum you lurk and dont post much. as town you are really loud and spam the thread with bad posts. in this game you have been lurky, aka scummy

do you want me to spam?? I'm trying to do that less and start giving better posts

I thought you could tone read me well. What happened to that? Am I suddenly "hard to read"? why?

[midwaybear]

the stuff you quoted is entirely unrelated btw. Yes, I recall saying that somewhere, but I think I was being too cocky in myself when I said that. TBH, you are hard to read especially if you are actually doing the thing where you play as town even when you are scum. I was only able to toneread you that once because you were under pressure. TBH there hasn't really been much pressure on you this game(which isn't necessarily a bad thing), but I feel like pressure is how I can read you and it hasn't been there.

[Dunnstral]

God damnit. Votato, did you see my vote in pedit when you posted.

Yours is actually Scummier because of self hammer.

Votato is saying he did not see VP's post; doesn't that make Votato's vote just as bad?

[Dunnstral]

after reading blair's arguments yesterday i really want to go after quick or votato, blair clearly felt pressured yesterday and i'm not sure that was all town pressing her

idk about this argument. If you're referring to the claim that was all quick's doing.

I do see Votato as scummy/scum with Gamma

VOTE: Votato

[Quick]

the stuff you quoted is entirely unrelated btw. Yes, I recall saying that somewhere, but I think I was being too cocky in myself when I said that. TBH, you are hard to read especially if you are actually doing the thing where you play as town even when you are scum. I was only able to toneread you that once because you were under pressure. TBH there hasn't really been much pressure on you this game(which isn't necessarily a bad thing), but I feel like pressure is how I can read you and it hasn't been there.

I think this is bs. What do you think of that?

[Quick]

God damnit. Votato, did you see my vote in pedit when you posted.

Yours is actually Scummier because of self hammer.

Votato is saying he did not see VP's post; doesn't that make Votato's vote just as bad?

votato just seems Town to me... I find it... hypocritical of you to say this though.

[Quick]

after reading blair's arguments yesterday i really want to go after quick or votato, blair clearly felt pressured yesterday and i'm not sure that was all town pressing her

idk about this argument. If you're referring to the claim that was all quick's doing.

I do see Votato as scummy/scum with Gamma

VOTE: Votato

Where?

[Dunnstral]

That is one of the most anti-town posts in this game.

Scum already know if you are Cop. This has been apparent since your push on gamma at like post 1000 or so.

Let it be known that Quick sniffed out a PR and then spent the next 150 posts teasing a claim out of them.

I have a positive investigation on Gammagooey.

It is not a Town/Mafia result, but it is something usually exclusive to Mafia.

I need Gamma to claim so I can check their claim against my result - which I will happily share, but only after Gamma claims (if they know my result, they will know exactly what role to claim).

I'm talking about this

I assumed Puppy meant that Blair feeling pressured was the reason that she claimed, but that was your doing and seems unrelated to pressure on her - do you disagree with that assessment?

[Dunnstral]

God damnit. Votato, did you see my vote in pedit when you posted.

Yours is actually Scummier because of self hammer.

Votato is saying he did not see VP's post; doesn't that make Votato's vote just as bad?

votato just seems Town to me... I find it... hypocritical of you to say this though.

Me being hypocritical doesn't discount my point, does it?

Isn't Votato in your scumread area? How am I supposed to read your reads list?

[Dunnstral]

Probably should be closer to this:

Hellbooks, VP, R2R
Puppy, votato, Dunn
mav

[Quick]

God damnit. Votato, did you see my vote in pedit when you posted.

Yours is actually Scummier because of self hammer.

Votato is saying he did not see VP's post; doesn't that make Votato's vote just as bad?

votato just seems Town to me... I find it... hypocritical of you to say this though.

Me being hypocritical doesn't discount my point, does it?

Isn't Votato in your scumread area? How am I supposed to read your reads list?

Probably should be closer to this:

Hellbooks, VP, R2R
Puppy, votato, Dunn
mav

I guess the best way to read my thought process on VP/votato is that there is Scum in one of them, but not both.

[Quick]

That is one of the most anti-town posts in this game.

Scum already know if you are Cop. This has been apparent since your push on gamma at like post 1000 or so.

Let it be known that Quick sniffed out a PR and then spent the next 150 posts teasing a claim out of them.

I have a positive investigation on Gammagooey.

It is not a Town/Mafia result, but it is something usually exclusive to Mafia.

I need Gamma to claim so I can check their claim against my result - which I will happily share, but only after Gamma claims (if they know my result, they will know exactly what role to claim).

I'm talking about this

I assumed Puppy meant that Blair feeling pressured was the reason that she claimed, but that was your doing and seems unrelated to pressure on her - do you disagree with that assessment?

I think at the time I "outed the cop" (pretty blatantly, I would add) that mafia probably was way ahead of me with that. I literally didn't know Blair was Cop until I mentioned it. Then I literally guessed (which meant to be general and not specific post number) what post it was.

If I get strung up for being right on a guess, I am adding that to my wiki.

[Quick]

That is one of the most anti-town posts in this game.

Scum already know if you are Cop. This has been apparent since your push on gamma at like post 1000 or so.

Let it be known that Quick sniffed out a PR and then spent the next 150 posts teasing a claim out of them.

I have a positive investigation on Gammagooey.

It is not a Town/Mafia result, but it is something usually exclusive to Mafia.

I need Gamma to claim so I can check their claim against my result - which I will happily share, but only after Gamma claims (if they know my result, they will know exactly what role to claim).

I'm talking about this

I assumed Puppy meant that Blair feeling pressured was the reason that she claimed, but that was your doing and seems unrelated to pressure on her - do you disagree with that assessment?

I was asking about your SvS with votato/Gamma, not this other thing because I really don't care about that as I am inno.

[votato]

hmm i think my read on VP was bad. why do you think theres scum in votato/VP quick?

midway, none of your reads refer to posts. you arent engaging with what people are saying. you just say "i think this person is this" without an explanation.