Newbie 2007: Air [game over!]

[Poyzin]

This feels like a bus.

Could you expand on why you think this is a bus?

Too much effort too early to be a real read. More or less.

This is lame. Town can put in effort early as well. You’re at two strikes.

(This is an empty threat)

Are you and 72 going to lynch me because I caught you?

This feels super defensive. I'm voting for QQ right now and am questioning you because I got an early bad ping, and I'm not liking what I'm seeing from you since. Every comment just feels really sarcastic or antagonistic and not really conducive to game-solving.

VOTE: Quick

You fell for his bait, that’s what he wanted you to do. He’s admitted to fishing for reactions.

[Quick]

I don;t normally like playing as scum.

But you do this game, amirite?

Why no response to this? You can joke with GB because you have history with him but you can't with me? Okay... Nice tryharding Scum...

[Poyzin]

To elaborate, #113 felt less defensive from my perspective and more testy, like “bet you aren’t going to vote me”. I don’t think it’s townie not a productive mindset, which is why Quick is still a null read for me, but I’m pretty sure this was his plan all along. I’m only saying this because I’m townreading you for now and have been the person that I’ve agreed with the most, so I’m just letting you know how I see it.

[Quick]

This feels like a bus.

Could you expand on why you think this is a bus?

Too much effort too early to be a real read. More or less.

This is lame. Town can put in effort early as well. You’re at two strikes.

(This is an empty threat)

Are you and 72 going to lynch me because I caught you?

This feels super defensive. I'm voting for QQ right now and am questioning you because I got an early bad ping, and I'm not liking what I'm seeing from you since. Every comment just feels really sarcastic or antagonistic and not really conducive to game-solving.

VOTE: Quick

You fell for his bait, that’s what he wanted you to do. He’s admitted to fishing for reactions.

Defensiveness is NAI. Plus, I wasn't being defensive. See, you can lynch me... I knew you could do it! congrats!

[Poyzin]

I don;t normally like playing as scum.

But you do this game, amirite?

Why no response to this? You can joke with GB because you have history with him but you can't with me? Okay... Nice tryharding Scum...

I also wouldn’t answer such an obviously loaded question from you, but we can hear what 72 has to say.

[Quick]

To elaborate, #113 felt less defensive from my perspective and more testy, like “bet you aren’t going to vote me”. I don’t think it’s townie not a productive mindset, which is why Quick is still a null read for me, but I’m pretty sure this was his plan all along. I’m only saying this because I’m townreading you for now and have been the person that I’ve agreed with the most, so I’m just letting you know how I see it.

How about no? How about you check my Scum games to see how I play as Scum? I am strategic as Scum and I get lynched a LOT as Scum, but my record as Scum is actually BETTER than my Town record. My wiki is right THERE check it if you doubt me.

[72offsuit]

I don;t normally like playing as scum.

But you do this game, amirite?

Why no response to this? You can joke with GB because you have history with him but you can't with me? Okay... Nice tryharding Scum...

To be totally honest, I find your posts antagonistic and a bit grating. If its intentional and an attempt at getting an alignment read, then so be it, but my point still stands. So no, not really predisposed to bantering with yourself.

[Quick]

I don;t normally like playing as scum.

But you do this game, amirite?

Why no response to this? You can joke with GB because you have history with him but you can't with me? Okay... Nice tryharding Scum...

I also wouldn’t answer such an obviously loaded question from you, but we can hear what 72 has to say.

You two both SUCK at missing details which is REALLY convenient. I said you didn't mention the word

tryharding

yet you are still pushing me? Please, this game is done already...

[Quick]

I don;t normally like playing as scum.

But you do this game, amirite?

Why no response to this? You can joke with GB because you have history with him but you can't with me? Okay... Nice tryharding Scum...

To be totally honest, I find your posts antagonistic and a bit grating. If its intentional and an attempt at getting an alignment read, then so be it, but my point still stands. So no, not really predisposed to bantering with yourself.

TBH, I think you are adding "To be totally honest" to be coy...

[72offsuit]

To elaborate, #113 felt less defensive from my perspective and more testy, like “bet you aren’t going to vote me”. I don’t think it’s townie not a productive mindset, which is why Quick is still a null read for me, but I’m pretty sure this was his plan all along. I’m only saying this because I’m townreading you for now and have been the person that I’ve agreed with the most, so I’m just letting you know how I see it.

How about no? How about you check my Scum games to see how I play as Scum? I am strategic as Scum and I get lynched a LOT as Scum, but my record as Scum is actually BETTER than my Town record. My wiki is right THERE check it if you doubt me.

This sounds like you are saying you are an average scum player, and a below-average town player - that you put people offside, and get lynched which is Negative Expected Value regardless of your alignment.

[Poyzin]

I don’t think it’s townie not a productive mindset, which is why Quick is still a null read for me, but I’m pretty sure this was his plan all along.

Another EBWOP aaaaaa (that’s 4 now? I’m going to add some new content here at least)

I don’t think Quick’s play here is townie by any stretch of the imagination -‘d I don’t view it to be a productive mindset. However, I think it’s a load of wine and I’m content to let Quick go off with whatever he wants to try, which is why Quick is still a null read for me. I’m pretty sure this was his plan all along.

[NotAJumbleOfNumbers]

UNVOTE: because out of RVS

As a lesser but still impactful point, I also disagree with the town points awarded to Quick. For one, giving town points is in no way townie in and of itself, and there were already problems with Quick’s hasty rationale. However, GB giving town points to Quick after a total of 1 game-related post by Quick is already enough to raise alarm bells. I feel comfortable moving my vote out of RVS and towards someone who has a good chance of flipping scum.

I promise to follow Poe's law from now on.

That was a cheeky comment lmao. I was waiting for someone to continue the chain. I agree that Quick's.....

Quick

(sorry) assumption that active = Townie is too early.

But I don't think that usually comes from scum. Scum usually Null reads everyone so they can slide by without any resistance. And then "Null-scum" their partner in case they get lynched.

^this. There isnt much scum motivation to breezing into a thread, giving a quick townread, and disappearing. It felt careless/uncalculated. Thats why its a town ping.

I don't know about you, but there's a lot of motivation for doing that for me. It:
- doesn't take much effort
- shows that you have an opinion

At what point do you think we left RVS?

Around post 24, give or take a few. That's when the conversation started becoming serious.

[Quick]

To elaborate, #113 felt less defensive from my perspective and more testy, like “bet you aren’t going to vote me”. I don’t think it’s townie not a productive mindset, which is why Quick is still a null read for me, but I’m pretty sure this was his plan all along. I’m only saying this because I’m townreading you for now and have been the person that I’ve agreed with the most, so I’m just letting you know how I see it.

How about no? How about you check my Scum games to see how I play as Scum? I am strategic as Scum and I get lynched a LOT as Scum, but my record as Scum is actually BETTER than my Town record. My wiki is right THERE check it if you doubt me.

This sounds like you are saying you are an average scum player, and a below-average town player - that you put people offside, and get lynched which is Negative Expected Value regardless of your alignment.

IDGAF what it sounds like... How about you actually check instead? How does that sound to you?

[Quick]

Another EBWOP aaaaaa (that’s 4 now?

Probably because you are nervous.

[Poyzin]

To elaborate, #113 felt less defensive from my perspective and more testy, like “bet you aren’t going to vote me”. I don’t think it’s townie not a productive mindset, which is why Quick is still a null read for me, but I’m pretty sure this was his plan all along. I’m only saying this because I’m townreading you for now and have been the person that I’ve agreed with the most, so I’m just letting you know how I see it.

How about no? How about you check my Scum games to see how I play as Scum? I am strategic as Scum and I get lynched a LOT as Scum, but my record as Scum is actually BETTER than my Town record. My wiki is right THERE check it if you doubt me.

Okay never mind, this is much worse than what was being posted before. This is pretty clearly defensive, but anywho, the crux of your argument is “I’m not scum here because I played completely different as scum in the past”. If you played the same way as scum every single game then I’d be sorry for you, and I don’t buy your “check my meta to prove my towniness” for a minute.

[Quick]

To elaborate, #113 felt less defensive from my perspective and more testy, like “bet you aren’t going to vote me”. I don’t think it’s townie not a productive mindset, which is why Quick is still a null read for me, but I’m pretty sure this was his plan all along. I’m only saying this because I’m townreading you for now and have been the person that I’ve agreed with the most, so I’m just letting you know how I see it.

How about no? How about you check my Scum games to see how I play as Scum? I am strategic as Scum and I get lynched a LOT as Scum, but my record as Scum is actually BETTER than my Town record. My wiki is right THERE check it if you doubt me.

Okay never mind, this is much worse than what was being posted before. This is pretty clearly defensive, but anywho, the crux of your argument is “I’m not scum here because I played completely different as scum in the past”. If you played the same way as scum every single game then I’d be sorry for you, and I don’t buy your “check my meta to prove my towniness” for a minute.

No, my point is that YOU are Scum because you have shit arguments for why I am "Null....lol"

[Poyzin]

To elaborate, #113 felt less defensive from my perspective and more testy, like “bet you aren’t going to vote me”. I don’t think it’s townie not a productive mindset, which is why Quick is still a null read for me, but I’m pretty sure this was his plan all along. I’m only saying this because I’m townreading you for now and have been the person that I’ve agreed with the most, so I’m just letting you know how I see it.

How about no? How about you check my Scum games to see how I play as Scum? I am strategic as Scum and I get lynched a LOT as Scum, but my record as Scum is actually BETTER than my Town record. My wiki is right THERE check it if you doubt me.

Okay never mind, this is much worse than what was being posted before. This is pretty clearly defensive, but anywho, the crux of your argument is “I’m not scum here because I played completely different as scum in the past”. If you played the same way as scum every single game then I’d be sorry for you, and I don’t buy your “check my meta to prove my towniness” for a minute.

No, my point is that YOU are Scum because you have shit arguments for why I am "Null....lol"

Do you even know what a null read means?

[Poyzin]

Another EBWOP aaaaaa (that’s 4 now?

Probably because you are nervous.

I honestly cannot take you seriously right now. I’ve made EBWOPs the whole entire game and I’ve been posting on mobile the whole entire game. EBWOPs are to be expected. But I don’t need to explain that to you.

[Quick]

To elaborate, #113 felt less defensive from my perspective and more testy, like “bet you aren’t going to vote me”. I don’t think it’s townie not a productive mindset, which is why Quick is still a null read for me, but I’m pretty sure this was his plan all along. I’m only saying this because I’m townreading you for now and have been the person that I’ve agreed with the most, so I’m just letting you know how I see it.

How about no? How about you check my Scum games to see how I play as Scum? I am strategic as Scum and I get lynched a LOT as Scum, but my record as Scum is actually BETTER than my Town record. My wiki is right THERE check it if you doubt me.

Okay never mind, this is much worse than what was being posted before. This is pretty clearly defensive, but anywho, the crux of your argument is “I’m not scum here because I played completely different as scum in the past”. If you played the same way as scum every single game then I’d be sorry for you, and I don’t buy your “check my meta to prove my towniness” for a minute.

No, my point is that YOU are Scum because you have shit arguments for why I am "Null....lol"

Do you even know what a null read means?

Nope... Never heard the word in my life...

[Quick]

Another EBWOP aaaaaa (that’s 4 now?

Probably because you are nervous.

I honestly cannot take you seriously right now. I’ve made EBWOPs the whole entire game and I’ve been posting on mobile the whole entire game. EBWOPs are to be expected. But I don’t need to explain that to you.

My suggestion is to get a PC because phone posting is literally the worst.

[NotAJumbleOfNumbers]

To elaborate, #113 felt less defensive from my perspective and more testy, like “bet you aren’t going to vote me”. I don’t think it’s townie not a productive mindset, which is why Quick is still a null read for me, but I’m pretty sure this was his plan all along. I’m only saying this because I’m townreading you for now and have been the person that I’ve agreed with the most, so I’m just letting you know how I see it.

How about no? How about you check my Scum games to see how I play as Scum? I am strategic as Scum and I get lynched a LOT as Scum, but my record as Scum is actually BETTER than my Town record. My wiki is right THERE check it if you doubt me.

Okay never mind, this is much worse than what was being posted before. This is pretty clearly defensive, but anywho, the crux of your argument is “I’m not scum here because I played completely different as scum in the past”. If you played the same way as scum every single game then I’d be sorry for you, and I don’t buy your “check my meta to prove my towniness” for a minute.

No, my point is that YOU are Scum because you have shit arguments for why I am "Null....lol"

Bad arguments != scum. It just means that you have bad arguments.

[Quick]

To elaborate, #113 felt less defensive from my perspective and more testy, like “bet you aren’t going to vote me”. I don’t think it’s townie not a productive mindset, which is why Quick is still a null read for me, but I’m pretty sure this was his plan all along. I’m only saying this because I’m townreading you for now and have been the person that I’ve agreed with the most, so I’m just letting you know how I see it.

How about no? How about you check my Scum games to see how I play as Scum? I am strategic as Scum and I get lynched a LOT as Scum, but my record as Scum is actually BETTER than my Town record. My wiki is right THERE check it if you doubt me.

Okay never mind, this is much worse than what was being posted before. This is pretty clearly defensive, but anywho, the crux of your argument is “I’m not scum here because I played completely different as scum in the past”. If you played the same way as scum every single game then I’d be sorry for you, and I don’t buy your “check my meta to prove my towniness” for a minute.

No, my point is that YOU are Scum because you have shit arguments for why I am "Null....lol"

Bad arguments != scum. It just means that you have bad arguments.

Go ahead... Ask me for my reasons... I'm waiting for someone to ask me actually...

[GeorgeBailey]

Bad arguments != scum. It just means that you have bad arguments.

Not necessarily. Since scum has to come up with reasons to Scumread people out of thin air, bad arguments are usually an indicator.

[NotAJumbleOfNumbers]

Go ahead... Ask me for my reasons... I'm waiting for someone to ask me actually...

Well, okay then. What are your reasons?

[Quick]

Scum in their PT...

"Hey, let's tryhard this game, what do you say?"
"Sounds great! Fantastic even!"
"Okay, let's do this... Let's pushe the guy who generates the most discussion. That should be our plan."
"Okay, sounds good."
"Do you want to post first or should I?"