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[Mohab500]

I took it more as he believe it's unlikely a wagon would start on me, but hey, who knows what that guy is thinking, so...

[NorwegianboyEE]

And yeah, this feels more like a war of the playstyles than genuine scum hunting from you Cooldog, i liked you initially but then your entire house of cards kinda fell apart at the end of your fancy little analyzis there.

[CooLDoG]

Actually my vote on monab doesn't make since sit it will just sit there and doesn't produce activity.

VOTE: NorwegianboyEE

I get your schtic. Hating meta, 'i am a super 2009 old-fashioned player with weird kinks'... yada yada.
But what is this? "It will just sit there, on Mohab." And then you vote me?

I have expressed that I have a scum read on you. Mohab only has my vote on him. One vote will not produce as much activity in the game thread or reactions than if I went with another read which I hold to be more or less equal with another vote on them. You have a vote on you, so my voting for you will produce more activity than just leaving it to sit on mohab until other people vote for him... I don't want my vote to just sit there doing nothing.

I was debating voting fire bringer, however, he seems to be consistently erratic. He is much harder to pin down. I want to see more of him before making a judgment on if it is a good idea to place my vote on that wagon. I also don't think voting him will produce any different reaction than he already has... So, that's why I voted for you over him.

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Another interesting point is that there has been over 27 pages, but a strong wagon has yet to form. I find this to be quite interesting. By now someone would have typically gotten run up to l-2. Scum are either the initial votes on the current wagons, or they are hesitant to pile on and make one.
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Are you suggesting Mohab would be too inactive to respond to votes? Because they immediately disproved that...

Again, one vote on someone does not produce that much pressure. Voting on you will.

And yeah, this feels more like a war of the playstyles than genuine scum hunting from you Cooldog, i liked you initially but then your entire house of cards kinda fell apart at the end of your fancy little analyzis there.

If I voted for firebringer would you think I was town?

[Porkens]

Oh hey cooldog. Got any reads so far?

[NorwegianboyEE]

If I voted for firebringer would you think I was town?

It wouldn't make much of a difference. My read on you is still 'likely town' based on what i've seen so far. You've basically set up a premise of "fuck meta" and targeted both me and Firebringer using the same metric. So which one of us you vote doesn't really matter as far as my read is concerned atm. But it is annoying because i know i'm town and would rather see a wagon on Firebringer whom i scumread.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also it seemed from your analyzis you were mostly townreading me early on, then scumread me when i started pushing Firebringer? Am i correct in assuming this Cooldog?

[Porkens]

Oh spicy

[Mohab500]

Then we're all set on lynching Firebringer, right?

Alright, VOTE: Firebringer,

L-1

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[CooLDoG]

@prokins, Yeah, I don't like mohab, sakura, norweigian, and firebringer.

@norwegian, I do not think you are scummy for using meta. Re-read my post.... okay here we go:
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I'm not sure i want to trust Firebringer anymore. Because their read on Sakura makes no sense. Why are they so obvtown bruh?
VOTE: Firebringer

This is a chainsaw, correct? There were also some strange interactions earlier between norwegian and sakura and monab.
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You are voting based upon a sample size of 1 with no counter factual evidence for him being scum.

Which reads as an easy justification for your vote, no actual content to why his actions are scummy. This isn't meta related, it is that your bar for justification has nothing to do with the actual game and you seem to admit that it is crap to start with...


To elaborate on the weird relation I was talking about look at posts like this:

Don’t have strong reads yet, but gut says Mohab for posturing all the time. Sakura Hana’s "low hanging fruit" shit also came out of nowhere. And i could see it as scum trying to look good by TR a popular scumread at the time.

Here we have a two strange shades but both back peddle oddly.

VOTE: Blurryface3189

Here for instance I would suspect you to vote differently. You have show suspicion of fire and sakura/mohab. I don't know where this is coming from. Never was explained.

This game does have way too many inactive players right now.

@Drew-Sta
@CooLDoG
@Blurryface3189
@Persivul

why vote blurry over the other 3

BECAUSE HE VOTED ME BEFORE GOING BACK TO LURKING AND THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE.

With little pressure you overreact. Proving my point that voting for you will be productive.

I'm not sure i want to trust Firebringer anymore. Because their read on Sakura makes no sense. Why are they so obvtown bruh?
VOTE: Firebringer

Again, this post is an odd flip. You noted re provided justification for his read earlier, and you were joking around with him. I don't like it.

[CooLDoG]

edit: You noted fire provided justification for...

[CooLDoG]

Then we're all set on lynching Firebringer, right?

Alright, VOTE: Firebringer,

L-1

.

^this is what erks me. "L-1" reads as fishing for claims. Repeatedly does this.

[NoPowerOverMe]

I am strongly against the Firebringer wagon, for the record.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Anyone who hammers will be on the top of my scum list, especially assuming a town flip.

[Kerset]

@Mod, is a jester a possible role in this game under your interpretation of the definition of a normal game?

Jester is not a normal role

[NorwegianboyEE]

Here for instance I would suspect you to vote differently. You have show suspicion of fire and sakura/mohab. I don't know where this is coming from. Never was explained.

You literally quoted the post where i explained just under where you wrote this.

[NorwegianboyEE]

@Cooldog
Also i can't understand half of what you say. What are these chainsaws and back peddle things you mention?

[NorwegianboyEE]

With little pressure you overreact.

Are you literally unable to fathom jokes?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I am strongly against the Firebringer wagon, for the record.

If you could go into more detail about why you TR him that would be great.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yeah, I don't like mohab, sakura, norweigian, and firebringer.

Basically you hate all of the cool players.

[NorwegianboyEE]

@Cooldog
I bet you're going to townread someone extremely boring like Fredrick A Campbell. Ugh, old-fashioned snobs.

[NoPowerOverMe]

I townread FB because he's genuine and without a filter.

[Porkens]

VOTE: firebringer

[CooLDoG]

@Cooldog
Also i can't understand half of what you say. What are these chainsaws and back peddle things you mention?

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... aw_Defense

Attacking a player's attacker.

Yeah, I don't like mohab, sakura, norweigian, and firebringer.

Basically you hate all of the cool players.

^if you flip scum I am going to lynch the hell out of them. Also, why do you feel the need to defend them? They are not under much pressure (except for fire, which you scum read I think).

With little pressure you overreact.

Are you literally unable to fathom jokes?

When you say "xyz person's vote and then leaving is unacceptable" i don't take that to be a joke. I highly doubt it was.

@Cooldog
I bet you're going to townread someone extremely boring like Fredrick A Campbell. Ugh, old-fashioned snobs.

Do you scum read him?

[CooLDoG]

Why did you say that the two of them (sakura/monab) are scummy, but then you go onto vote on the same wagon that one of them is on?

[Porkens]

I’m leaning toward cooldog in this fite