Newbie 2007: Air [game over!]

[Marashu]

It looks like a lot's happened and I think I'll need a few hours to process it, but until I do UNVOTE:

[Poyzin]

Instead, could you make me a readslist for everybody in the game, and a small snippet about why they are placed the way they are?

Quick, I'm not going to take your threats seriously. You said you thought I was town, but changed your mind and said that your townread wasn't actually that strong. Unless you've decided that you're scumreading me without letting anybody know, how do you intend to pursue a 1v1? This is how I know that you're bluffing, so I intend to change the subject, and I ask that you do the same. This does not mean that I'm going to stop asking you questions though; just on a different topic for now. As I said in the above quote, could you make a readslist for everybody in the game, and include a small snippet about why they are placed in the order they are?

[Poyzin]

(Side note: you've played with Ranmaru? Good stuff)

[NotAJumbleOfNumbers]

But is it scummy? While you may not be a big fan, as neither am I, I fail to see why being sarcastic is a valid reason to vote for Quick.

...Okay, fair enough. I was thinking that the sarcasm was being used to disrupt the flow of the town, but it could be other things too. UNVOTE:

Readslist coming up soon.

[NotAJumbleOfNumbers]

Actually after re-reading through the argument, I'm going to VOTE: Quick again.

[Quick]

Actually after re-reading through the argument, I'm going to VOTE: Quick again.

You want to unpack that sherlock?

[Quick]

[Quick]

@MOD

, can we get a VC please?

I am not about to be lynched D1 for the second time in a row in a newbie game based on people misunderstanding my play.

[72offsuit]

I didn’t like Gibus’s unvote. And QQ townreading people for townreading him feels like genuine newbishness, but I would like a link the game that made you nervous of lolwagons, please?

I was responsible for lolhammering QQ. Needless to say I'm ashamed

It's an ongoing game. Is it allowed to post a link to it?

No, thanks for raising that question. TBH, he should not have discussed it at all in that circumstance. Discussion of ongoing games is verboten, and thats not a rule to toy around with.

Since you seem to be around, talk about your reads. What do you think Poyzin's interactions with Quick or Bailey? Anyone giving you the heebies (you unvoted, but havent really pushed in any direction). Do you disagree with the townread of QQ?

This is giving me scum to scum interaction vibes

[Poyzin]

Well then help us understand it please. Readslist? With some rationale for every player?

[72offsuit]

I didn’t like Gibus’s unvote. And QQ townreading people for townreading him feels like genuine newbishness, but I would like a link the game that made you nervous of lolwagons, please?

I was responsible for lolhammering QQ. Needless to say I'm ashamed

It's an ongoing game. Is it allowed to post a link to it?

No, thanks for raising that question. TBH, he should not have discussed it at all in that circumstance. Discussion of ongoing games is verboten, and thats not a rule to toy around with.

Since you seem to be around, talk about your reads. What do you think Poyzin's interactions with Quick or Bailey? Anyone giving you the heebies (you unvoted, but havent really pushed in any direction). Do you disagree with the townread of QQ?

This is giving me scum to scum interaction vibes

[Poyzin]

I didn’t like Gibus’s unvote. And QQ townreading people for townreading him feels like genuine newbishness, but I would like a link the game that made you nervous of lolwagons, please?

I was responsible for lolhammering QQ. Needless to say I'm ashamed

It's an ongoing game. Is it allowed to post a link to it?

No, thanks for raising that question. TBH, he should not have discussed it at all in that circumstance. Discussion of ongoing games is verboten, and thats not a rule to toy around with.

Since you seem to be around, talk about your reads. What do you think Poyzin's interactions with Quick or Bailey? Anyone giving you the heebies (you unvoted, but havent really pushed in any direction). Do you disagree with the townread of QQ?

This is giving me scum to scum interaction vibes

Why do you think so? Did teacher and gibus really conspire to have teacher criticize gibus for talking about an ongoing game here?

[Quick]

Well then help us understand it please. Readslist? With some rationale for every player?

You first.

[72offsuit]

Who's the best player here, imho it's either Notajumbleofnumbers or offsuit and they haven't posted yet

This post never comes from scum.

Explain.
You can't throw out a statement like this without clarifying.

Scum doesn’t call the entirety of the active player list bad, or at least that none of them are “the best” players. I don’t think I’m the best player here but it’s unnecessarily confrontational and scum does not benefit at all from posting this, especially when QQ was never the focus of the thread at any time yet thus far.

I liked this reasoning. Tbh it’s also the juxtaposition of QQ - I don’t think a newb who is as fearful of lolwagons throws out a line like this as scum. I think they’re more likely to lock up/silent than talk.

It comes. Down to: 1) if you truly believe he is ACTUALLY genuinely scared of lolhammer
2) if he is how he would behave accordingly

[Quick]

[Poyzin]

Well then help us understand it please. Readslist? With some rationale for every player?

You first.

I’m not going to go first because I’m majorly townread at the moment. Me creating a readslist right now is a great way to allow scum to blend in by matching my perspectives, and gives them a great list to NK off of. Because you are at L-1, I’d say it’s far more pressing that you go first.

[Quick]

Well then help us understand it please. Readslist? With some rationale for every player?

You first.

I’m not going to go first because I’m majorly townread at the moment. Me creating a readslist right now is a great way to allow scum to blend in by matching my perspectives, and gives them a great list to NK off of. Because you are at L-1, I’d say it’s far more pressing that you go first.

What? You are being TR for you dope ass play? Get out of here with that. You know what's going on. You are paying attention. Go ahead, lynch me.

[72offsuit]

Unvote

[72offsuit]

Will catch up tonight

[NotAJumbleOfNumbers]

Jumble - Locktown, obviously
Poyzin - Townlean, liked his beginning burst of posts and his arguments
72offsuit - Null, not really feeling anything on this slot
gibus - Null, kinda lurky with not much else to talk about
QQ - Townlean, feels very newbie town to me
Marashu - Slight scumlean, incredibly lurky and hasn't brought up much
Quick - Scumlean, I just don't think his approach is helping town
GB - Null, I can see this going either way, really

[Quick]

Time to start on some fucking notes for this game...

[Poyzin]

Well then help us understand it please. Readslist? With some rationale for every player?

You first.

I’m not going to go first because I’m majorly townread at the moment. Me creating a readslist right now is a great way to allow scum to blend in by matching my perspectives, and gives them a great list to NK off of. Because you are at L-1, I’d say it’s far more pressing that you go first.

What? You are being TR for you dope ass play? Get out of here with that. You know what's going on. You are paying attention. Go ahead, lynch me.

1) What play are you referring to? I didn’t realize I was making a play; I AM, however, playing mafia, so maybe that’s what you’re referring to?

2) If you’re town, then please be aware that you’re playing against your wincon right now. At several points you have asked to be lynched. I’m not 100% sure what you’re trying to accomplish while doing so. Are you using reverse psychology to pressure me to remove my vote? Please realize that I have no reason to do so at this time, but maybe if you cooperated with me then I could see you as town. And for the record, “go ahead lynch me” only works as a threat to the person who hammers, not somebody who is just voting on the wagon.

3) If you don’t make a readslist tonight and instead attempt to pester townies who scumread you, I have no choice but to assume you are incapable of presenting a readslist and will use this as case evidence against you when we decide who we are lynching at the end of the Day.

[Poyzin]

Poyzin - Townlean, liked his beginning burst of posts and his arguments

What arguments did you like, and what did you like about them?

[Poyzin]

Also Jumble, you forgot Teacher in your readslist.

[Poyzin]

Marashu - Slight scumlean, incredibly lurky and hasn't brought up much

Is lurking a scum trait?