Mini Normal 2141: The World of Tomorrow [Game over!]

[midwaybear]

Guys, I'm pretty sure "fruit checker" isn't a normal role, and this is a normal game - they've abolished the greylist a while back, such a role doesn't exist in this game, I'm pretty sure

ok, so VPB probably scum

[VP Baltar]

me and dunn are basically conf town
i don't think votato's claim really matters
I don't get the second quote string?

How are you confirmed town without someone to third party confirm you don't have fruit?

[Dunnstral]

Guys, I'm pretty sure "fruit checker" isn't a normal role, and this is a normal game - they've abolished the greylist a while back, such a role doesn't exist in this game, I'm pretty sure

ok, so VPB probably scum

You mean with Mavs as well?

I kind of believe Mavs claim. I don't like Votato.

[midwaybear]

what's the point of a fruit vendor if we can't be confirmed? That's sorta wack tbh

[Dunnstral]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=80850

This large normal had a Simple Disloyal Fruit Vendor, and a Simple Loyal Fruit Vendor

The simple modifier means the role only works against vanilla roles (Vanilla town or mafia goon)

[midwaybear]

what's the point of a fruit vendor if no one can confirum you

[Dunnstral]

"Hey did you get fruit last night"

"yea"

"you're mafia"

[midwaybear]

"Hey did you get fruit last night"

"yea"

"you're mafia"

ohh i see, but now everyone knows so it's useless
hmm. Then mavs played this pretty bad. He could have first claimed fruit vendor and then asked you and I if we got fruit. Ugh

[Quick]

"Hey did you get fruit last night"

"yea"

"you're mafia"

ohh i see, but now everyone knows so it's useless
hmm. Then mavs played this pretty bad. He could have first claimed fruit vendor and then asked you and I if we got fruit. Ugh

Yeah, and mav is NOT that sloppy IMO. His early content was good but he tanked hard after Gamma got run up.

[Quick]

Basically, he's tilted as Scum.

[Quick]

Guys, I'm pretty sure "fruit checker" isn't a normal role, and this is a normal game - they've abolished the greylist a while back, such a role doesn't exist in this game, I'm pretty sure

ok, so VPB probably scum

You mean with Mavs as well?

I kind of believe Mavs claim. I don't like Votato.

Guys, I'm pretty sure "fruit checker" isn't a normal role, and this is a normal game - they've abolished the greylist a while back, such a role doesn't exist in this game, I'm pretty sure

Tell me how this makes sense.

[Dunnstral]

Guys, I'm pretty sure "fruit checker" isn't a normal role, and this is a normal game - they've abolished the greylist a while back, such a role doesn't exist in this game, I'm pretty sure

ok, so VPB probably scum

You mean with Mavs as well?

I kind of believe Mavs claim. I don't like Votato.

Guys, I'm pretty sure "fruit checker" isn't a normal role, and this is a normal game - they've abolished the greylist a while back, such a role doesn't exist in this game, I'm pretty sure

Tell me how this makes sense.

What do you mean? I'm talking about two different things here:

Mav's claim: Disloyal fruit vendor

What he thinks votato is: 'Fruit Checker' - this is what I'm pretty sure isn't a real role

[Quick]

Guys, I'm pretty sure "fruit checker" isn't a normal role, and this is a normal game - they've abolished the greylist a while back, such a role doesn't exist in this game, I'm pretty sure

ok, so VPB probably scum

You mean with Mavs as well?

I kind of believe Mavs claim. I don't like Votato.

Guys, I'm pretty sure "fruit checker" isn't a normal role, and this is a normal game - they've abolished the greylist a while back, such a role doesn't exist in this game, I'm pretty sure

Tell me how this makes sense.

What do you mean? I'm talking about two different things here:

Mav's claim: Disloyal fruit vendor

What he thinks votato is: 'Fruit Checker' - this is what I'm pretty sure isn't a real role

VT is my favorite role because it's the least complicated and most straight forward.

I leave the claims to the birds.

[midwaybear]

i have a suspicion why you are saying this, yet I still am confused

[Quick]

i have a suspicion why you are saying this, yet I still am confused

You should see my Scum game. Never had to claim a BS role.

[midwaybear]

??? I was confused why you brought up VT when it seemed totally irrelevant.

[Quick]

??? I was confused why you brought up VT when it seemed totally irrelevant.

VT is always relevant

[votato]

uh yeah i am not gonna claim here. i will say that my role has nothing to do with fruit. based on the wiki, that isnt a normal role, although fruit vendor is. https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Normal_Game
the disloyal modifier is pretty convenient, because it means that at this point the role is unverifiable (except by a watcher or voyeur).
as midway said, the "midway is fruitless" comment was a dig at midway. I still think i buy the claim for now, just because of the breadcrumb. theres also really no need to kill the slot since its potentially verifiable.

[VP Baltar]

theres also really no need to kill the slot since its potentially verifiable.

Huh? Am I missing something?

[Dunnstral]

uh yeah i am not gonna claim here. i will say that my role has nothing to do with fruit. based on the wiki, that isnt a normal role, although fruit vendor is. https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Normal_Game
the disloyal modifier is pretty convenient, because it means that at this point the role is unverifiable (except by a watcher or voyeur).
as midway said, the "midway is fruitless" comment was a dig at midway. I still think i buy the claim for now, just because of the breadcrumb. theres also really no need to kill the slot since its potentially verifiable.

So who is scum then?

[Dunnstral]

theres also really no need to kill the slot since its potentially verifiable.

Huh? Am I missing something?

They said Watcher or Voyeur

I disagree, I think any more town investigatives would be too many town investigatives

[Quick]

theres also really no need to kill the slot since its potentially verifiable.

Huh? Am I missing something?

They said Watcher or Voyeur

I disagree, I think any more town investigatives would be too many town investigatives

We don't know what Scum have. All we have so far are 2 claimed roles that are dead. SM usually implies a saving role. It's for this reason I believe votato over mav.

[VP Baltar]

theres also really no need to kill the slot since its potentially verifiable.

Huh? Am I missing something?

They said Watcher or Voyeur

I disagree, I think any more town investigatives would be too many town investigatives

Well if it's fake maybe not?

I'm not really inclined to believe it is fake though, so that makes sense

[votato]

theres also really no need to kill the slot since its potentially verifiable.

Huh? Am I missing something?

They said Watcher or Voyeur

I disagree, I think any more town investigatives would be too many town investigatives

traffic analyst is a bit weaker than cop, and watcher/voyeur are pretty weak. fruit vendor justifies having one of those roles, and between a traffic analyst and a voyeur its basically one cop, in terms of strength imho.

[Dunnstral]

Watcher isn't weak though